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Any one feels that Canon missed it's chance to kill M43 with EOS-R?

Any one feels that Canon missed it's chance to kill M43 with EOS-R?

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Canon's EOS-R is surprisingly compact both in terms of lenses and cameras.

They could have stole M43's spotlight especially since it allows larger than M43 offering easier perspective control.

Also, it proved to have decently priced lenses relative to its performance.
 
Canon's mirrorless promised value for money, performance and mobility.

The same promise which was made by the M43 standard except for having larger sensors which favors photographers more than videographers.
 
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MUSTDOS wrote: They could have stole M43's spotlight ...
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M43 doesn't have a spotlight. :-) Olympus has a tiny worldwide market share, and their camera-imaging division has been losing money for years. I don't think other camera companies spend much time thinking about them.

Canon M is the system that would have been a direct competition to M43, but Canon seems content with keeping that system a "Mirrorless Rebel".
 
Yea right. M43 still has a spot for hybrid and some pro photographers; it's only that cannikon took the lead in advertising and made them look bigger than what they really are.

From where I live, some think that Olympus is dead like 2 decades ago and it's a Chinese company.
 
Why do so many m4/3 owners STILL feel like they've got a target on their cameras?

Go Fuji or FF, and move on if your output isn't good enough to be able to ignore the rest of the formats.
 
It's not being targeted, but a missed opportunity for creating a decent practical system. I want to love the EOS-R system but Canon seems not too active until recently.

If they have started earlier; they could have implement a lot of what was on M43 like preburst.

Yet, they decided to release some cam that has a sensor worse than M43. Wish I could still find that comparison; it was a part of thehybridshooter's review and forgot the Canon's model name.
 
Only if they produced a camera/lens that weighed under 2000 grams that would produce the equivalent FOV of a FF camera with a 1200mm lens which could be easily hand held at 1/30 second. Uncropped image.



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drj3 said:
Only if they produced a camera/lens that weighed under 2000 grams that would produce the equivalent FOV of a FF camera with a 1200mm lens which could be easily hand held at 1/30 second. Uncropped image.

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i think my Nikon 1 combo is sharper to be honest



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tkbslc said:
Nah, they missed it by nerfing EOS-M back in the early mirrorless days when m4/3 was starting to pick up speed. Being the default camera brand of the previous decade, they would have mopped the floor with Sony and m4/3 if they had a competitive product.
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They lost at least one customer. I was very interested but got frustrated with the slow development and went with m43.
 
MUSTDOS said:
Canon's EOS-R is surprisingly compact both in terms of lenses and cameras.

They could have stole M43's spotlight especially since it allows larger than M43 offering easier perspective control.
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And how is that easier with a FF camera If that's what you mean.
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Also, it proved to have decently priced lenses relative to its performance.
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Forgive my lack of MS paint skills

(For now, forget that F stops exist)

the first 6x6cm shows a medium format cam taking a portrait

If we used 35mm format then we will need to move twice away to achieve the same background separation. Otherwise, more objects in the background will be included and makes the image look distracting. (The 35mm at the same distance will have more objects in background since it has larger Field of View {FoV}}

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Another thing to note is that the closeness of the 6x6 format allows for a more "natural look" without a busy background. Compare the reds and yellows; the difference between the yellow and red distance is smaller than the one of 35mm which makes every "centimeter" difference a lot more notable (Like standing 1 meter vs 10 meters away from some one and try and guess their approximate nose or eye size)

If you where willing to use an ultra wide angle for portrait on small sensor, then prepare for some serious fisheye distortions.

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MUSTDOS said:
Canon's EOS-R is surprisingly compact both in terms of lenses and cameras.

They could have stole M43's spotlight especially since it allows larger than M43 offering easier perspective control.

Also, it proved to have decently priced lenses relative to its performance.
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I don't understand this poll.

You are expecting a vendor-locked large-ish camera to kill off a more compact platform that enjoys great IQ and lens compatibility from multiple manufacturers?

FF has its advantages, but its not going to replace M43 for those that prefer its advantages.
 
Perspective is controlled by where you shoot from.

Framing is controlled by focal length.

Depth of field is controlled by distance to subject, aperture, focal length and sensor size.

Bokeh (being the quality of any out of focus highlights) is controlled by lens design.

That's the facts as I know them by those term names.

Regards...... Guy
 
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tkbslc said:
Nah, they missed it by nerfing EOS-M back in the early mirrorless days when m4/3 was starting to pick up speed. Being the default camera brand of the previous decade, they would have mopped the floor with Sony and m4/3 if they had a competitive product.
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They lost at least one customer. I was very interested but got frustrated with the slow development and went with m43.
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I was a Canon SLR customer who bought the original EOS M. I loved the concept, but had to move to m4/3 when I wanted to make mirrorless my primary system. Still in 2019 EOS M looks more like m4/3 did in 2011
 
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