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I've had a quick play with both the D7200 and D7500 recently as I am thinking of upgrading.

I found a problem that when looking through the viewfinder, on both these cameras, my nose was touching the little joystick(?) that's located to the right of the LCD screen, thus causing the focus point to move.

Is there something I was missing, for example a way to disable this?

I hope my question is clear.
 
romfordbluenose said:
Hi, given your problems I have tried it on my D7500.

I set BBF by setting AE/EL to AF-ON (f1), Set AF-Activation to AF-ON only (a6) and set AF-C to focus priority (a1).

I am afraid you are quite right with these settings AF-C focus priority does not work any more, it releases come what may.

When I set AF-Activation to Shutter/AF-ON rather than AF-ON only it works OK.

Looks like it is the way the D7500 works, so you need to set a6 to shutter/AF-ON.
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This seems a bug that you should report to Nikon.
 
blueknigh7 said:
graham43 said:
On my current D3100, I can only take a picture when the camera is focused, something that I've got used to and find it great. Would I be able to activate/deactivate this on the D7500?
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This is known as AF-S mode, where the camera will only take a shot after it's confirmed to have a focus lock. On the D7500, this is controlled via the second dial below the mode selector on the top left. It's easy to miss if you didn't know it was there. This dial is where you select AF-S, or AF-C (continuous), the quiet modes, mirror up, and the timer.

My camera lives in AF-C, since I tend to be more in action and use back button focus. And then I always spend 10 minutes looking in the menus for turning on the timer - I forget that this is where it lives.
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Just to clarify -

The dial below the Mode Selector is the Mode Release Dial for the shutter. I don't think it has anything to do with focus.

Single frame
Continuous low speed
Continuous high speed
Quiet shutter release
Continuous quiet shutter release
Self timer
Mirror up
 
romfordbluenose said:
Hi, given your problems I have tried it on my D7500.

I set BBF by setting AE/EL to AF-ON (f1), Set AF-Activation to AF-ON only (a6) and set AF-C to focus priority (a1).

I am afraid you are quite right with these settings AF-C focus priority does not work any more, it releases come what may.

When I set AF-Activation to Shutter/AF-ON rather than AF-ON only it works OK.

Looks like it is the way the D7500 works, so you need to set a6 to shutter/AF-ON.
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Thanks for your help.

I was certain I had the settings right and glad it is not just my camera.

When I set AF-Activation to AF-ON (a6), this makes the camera focus with the shutter release button as well as the back button.

There must be a way to use BBF and AF-C with the shutter only releasing when focused.
 
I think perhaps it is designed this way to ensure the picture is in focus when using AF-C because fast moving subjects coming towards you very quickly get out of focus so you need to link the AF with the shutter release.

Next step is probably to ask Nikon

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Please don't quote long posts, it just fills up the forum with repetitive information. Just replying to the poster or selectively quoting will make it all easier to read.
 
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It seems strange. Whilst I don't have a D7500 (I've D7000, D7200 D500) I assume you should be able to just go to the Autofocus section of the Custom Setting menu, choose AF-C Priority Selection and change the setting from Release to Focus to prevent the shutter from being released before focus is set.

Does that not work?
 
That is exactly what I've done and realised there was something wrong.

I asked the question three months ago higher up this thread and was told it was a simple set up. I double checked in the manual, (before my purchase), and it said it could be done.

I bought the camera, at weekend, went straight to the relevant option in the camera menu and realised the was a problem.

I cannot believe it's two years since the release of this camera and the issue has not come to light. Maybe other users don't use BBF
 
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twamers said:
It seems strange. Whilst I don't have a D7500 (I've D7000, D7200 D500) I assume you should be able to just go to the Autofocus section of the Custom Setting menu, choose AF-C Priority Selection and change the setting from Release to Focus to prevent the shutter from being released before focus is set.

Does that not work?
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No, that's what we're discussing. Could you try it on your d500 for us.
 
graham43 said:
That is exactly what I've done and realised there was something wrong.

I asked the question three months ago higher up this thread and was told it was a simple set up. I double checked in the manual, (before my purchase), and it said it could be done.

I bought the camera, at weekend, went straight to the relevant option in the camera menu and realised the was a problem.

I cannot believe it's two years since the release of this camera and the issue has not come to light. Maybe other users don't use BBF
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It's sort of a standard to use AF-C with BBF. People claim you have both AF-S and AF_C at the same time with BBF, for if you release the button you have AF-S while it is set to AF-C (although personally I think the two modes have a slightly different working).

But there was some controversy way back that 'focus trap' didn't work anymore (where you aim and focus the camera close to a feeder, then when the bird arrives and the camera sees 'focus' it starts snapping). That was somehow reverted with either firmware or later models. It was closely related to the priority settings.

I can also remember that 'focus and recompose' didn't work with some cameras (D700) because there had to be something in focus under the active AF point.

Anyway it's an evolving can of worms, but I think your model is different from the D7200, although I didn't test it.
 
I had that problem when I first got my D7200. After a couple weeks of using it, the problem went away. I think I must have made minor adjustments to how I hold the camera.
 
graham43 said:
That is exactly what I've done and realised there was something wrong.

I asked the question three months ago higher up this thread and was told it was a simple set up. I double checked in the manual, (before my purchase), and it said it could be done.

I bought the camera, at weekend, went straight to the relevant option in the camera menu and realised the was a problem.

I cannot believe it's two years since the release of this camera and the issue has not come to light. Maybe other users don't use BBF
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I looked into this sometime ago....

I have the AE-L button set to AF-on.

Even if set to focus priority for AF-C, the shutter will release if AF-on is not pressed. So you can pre-focus on an object, say, a soccer ball on a corner kick, then do a burst at 8FPS and hope one is the perfect shot.

BUT,

if I hold down AF-on, shutter will not release unless the camera thinks focus has been achieved. I confirmed this by pointing to an object and moving the camera back and forth and the shutter release was intermittent.
 
romfordbluenose said:
twamers said:
It seems strange. Whilst I don't have a D7500 (I've D7000, D7200 D500) I assume you should be able to just go to the Autofocus section of the Custom Setting menu, choose AF-C Priority Selection and change the setting from Release to Focus to prevent the shutter from being released before focus is set.

Does that not work?
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No, that's what we're discussing. Could you try it on your d500 for us.
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Ok so I've checked my D7200 and D500. Both are usually set to Back Button Focus AF-C Release - I would never use Focus priority ordinarily. However when I change both in A1 to Focus Priority they won't take a shot if autofocus is not acquired. They will take a shot without focus being acquired in Release mode. As I do a lot of sports I'd only ever use Release priority and I use that for everything else too - I never use AF-S for instance as I find no need. Both manuals tell you how to do this and the D7500 manual covers it on p100 and p260 as far as I can see.
 
romfordbluenose said:
Hi, given your problems I have tried it on my D7500.

I set BBF by setting AE/EL to AF-ON (f1), Set AF-Activation to AF-ON only (a6) and set AF-C to focus priority (a1).

I am afraid you are quite right with these settings AF-C focus priority does not work any more, it releases come what may.

When I set AF-Activation to Shutter/AF-ON rather than AF-ON only it works OK.

Looks like it is the way the D7500 works, so you need to set a6 to shutter/AF-ON.
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Its a useful other thread for sure. I think it makes perfect sense in AF-C back button focus that you must always keep the button pressed in to achieve focus to make focus priority work - if the subject matter is moving. The default in AF-C is always release until a user changes it.
 
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