OM-D E-M1X for general photography???

Paul Auclair wrote: question the motive of your post.

Hi Paul,

I’m doing nothing more than collecting information from a wider group of E-M1X users before I potentially drop $3K USD on a camera. This thread is not an attempt to fuel controversy.

Fair enough.
Of course, any thread here tends to fuel controversy. I don’t understand that.
Par the course unfortunately.
Jim Pilcher
Summit County, Colorado, USA
Living above life in the Rocky Mountains
 
Virtually everything, overwhelmingly, being showcased here from the E-M1X is bird photography. Is anyone here using the E-M1X for general photography and thrilled with it?

I’m looking to combine a new OM-D E-M1x with with my four Pro lenses, leaving my Pen F for primes 12mm f/2, 25mm f/1.4, 45mm f/1.8, and 75mm f/1.8. I rarely shoot birds. I most often shoot lots of other stuff; no birds, no planes, no trains, no automobiles.

Please don’t comment about size or weight. I get that. Has anyone found the E-M1X terrific for general photography?

Jim Pilcher
Summit County, Colorado, USA
Living above life in the Rocky Mountains
It's a very good camera for any type of photography, but if you aren't shooting moving subjects even the E-M1ii is completely overkill. You won't see any significant improvement in image quality and single AF is fine with the Pen-F.
I see that you have, or have had, the preemo examples of m4/3 and FF pro bodies, most of which you rated higher than the 3.5 stars you gave the M1X and EM1 - eg the G9 and EM1-II at 4.5 stars. Price and weight don't seem to figure into your ratings, so would you care to elaborate on your lowish score for the 1X?
 
Paul Auclair wrote: question the motive of your post.

Hi Paul,

I’m doing nothing more than collecting information from a wider group of E-M1X users before I potentially drop $3K USD on a camera. This thread is not an attempt to fuel controversy.

Of course, any thread here tends to fuel controversy. I don’t understand that.

Um of course it fuels controversy, pretty much the same if you suggest using 1DXII or D6 for general photography in Canikon forums.

It makes absolutely no sense whatsoever - learn using the right tool for the right job.
Jim Pilcher
Summit County, Colorado, USA
Living above life in the Rocky Mountains
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Paul Auclair wrote: question the motive of your post.

Hi Paul,

I’m doing nothing more than collecting information from a wider group of E-M1X users before I potentially drop $3K USD on a camera. This thread is not an attempt to fuel controversy.

Of course, any thread here tends to fuel controversy. I don’t understand that.

Jim Pilcher
Summit County, Colorado, USA
Living above life in the Rocky Mountains

The EM1X is a controversial camera.

You were asking about if it was good for general photography. By that I presume you were talking about travel photography or creative photography.

If you are doing action BIF or any other specialised sort of photography, I guess the EM1X is worth considering.

I suppose I do what could be considered "general photography". Places I visit, hikes in the mountains and even the occasional concert. Nothing that stresses my EM5 that can now be picked up SH for €250. This camera has never let me down or limited what I want to photograph.

Just yesterday I was able to visit some dark old monuments in my city that were opened to the public for the day. In the fairly crowded caotic conditions, I did not feel I needed anything more "modern" and sophisticated than my two EM5 bodies with the 7-14 and 12-35. I have had posters made from pictures taken in these sort of conditions.

Rather buying a small FF set up that cost much less than €3000 that the EM1X costs has widened the scope and quality of my photography. I get files that stand up to far more PP before falling apart and the better tonal transitions do make a difference even at small sizes to certain subjects with delicate lighting conditions. I can also find and use specialised lenses like the 28PC that has made a big difference to my architectural photography.

This is just my findings which I hope nobody finds "controversial". You must just do what you feel is best for you.
 
It costs twice as much as the Em1. I just wonder if for general photography, this specialised camera is using a hammer to crack a nut.

Money is better spent on lenses.
Why not just let the person who has the money spend it which even way they want?
He asked for advice. I just gave him my own honest opinion.
 
Its a pro sports camera and so far have rarely seen a pro sports image on this forum. couldnt imagine it being any better that the em12 in shooting happy snaps, im not understanding why every thread is started with em1x who cares what camera let the images speak for themselves.

Don
You will find some motorsport shot's here https://www.ephotozine.com/article/...at-the-british-touring-car-championship-33512
i know this sounds horrible but, there is often links to external sources to show certain types of photography....the vicarious photographer if you will, i much prefer seeing others exhibiting their own shots for other to view or show an example....the Andy Rouse Canon defection comes to mind in this regard
 
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Great that you have purchased E-M1X but feel a bit sad that you are not thrilled with it for general photography. I hooe you can sell it without too much loss!

Wait, don’t tell me that you have just answered the question where you were basically lying just to say something bad about camera that isn’t approved by your highly rated expertise but that you don’t own?!
 
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I've use the camera since the middle of March. The first thing that struck me from the very first click was the rather muted shutter as compared to my other mirrorless cameras. Perhaps we expected a more masculine sound from a big camera. The viewfinder magnification makes it easy to frame your shots and in no small part adds to the enjoyment of the photo making process. On the other hand, I found the EVF to tend towards 'overexposure'. Ie. the EVF shows the image to be 'just right' but it's actually alittle under-exposed. I also find the start-up time to be slow for a professional-level camera. For eg. it is slower than the Fuji X-E3 which I use abit as well (it must be said that the X-E3 is slower in every other aspects like focus-acquisition, image playback etc).

I do not shoot sports nor birds in flight. I use the M1X for general photography, For the last 2 months, I carry it with me for lunch-walks, weekends to get myself familiar with the operation/interface and also to know it's limitations. I like that the buttons are labelled, rather than 'C1, C2.. etc'. I do wish there's a top-panel LCD. So many times I have to peer into the viewfinder just to check my shutter/aperture etc when a glance will do. For all its customisability, there is no button to recall picture style/picture mode. It'd be useful feature for predominately Jpeg shooter like myself to be able to switch from Neutral to Vivid quickly.

To answer your question, the M1X will likely exceed your expectation as a general photographic tool especially when coupled with the excellent m43 lenses.



Singapore is a small city-state smaller than NYC. There are no mountains nor great lakes to photograph. Many old buildings have been razed to the ground replaced by modern structure. This was the former Supreme Court now an art gallery.
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Phil, I hope this doesn't come across as nitpicking, but can you clarify that you are referring to the 'discreet' nature (or otherwise) of a camera?

Thanks, Scott
Discreet

Less obvious, not so in you face, under the radar

I'm not using it in the covert photo meaning though.

It's becoming more and more common at significant/major events that "pro" gear is not allowed in ....

A EM1X will always look pro, it has no choice

BUT

A EM1mk2 without it's grip looks like any number of smaller consumer cameras and i've found it really doesn't draw attention ... therefore discrete

The same as pulling the hood from the 40-150Pro .... makes it more discrete when required.

Does that make sense?
 
I've use the camera since the middle of March. The first thing that struck me from the very first click was the rather muted shutter as compared to my other mirrorless cameras. Perhaps we expected a more masculine sound from a big camera.
Yeah bigger louder .... nice to see it isn't so. The shutter sound is properly muted imo
The viewfinder magnification makes it easy to frame your shots and in no small part adds to the enjoyment of the photo making process. On the other hand, I found the EVF to tend towards 'overexposure'. Ie. the EVF shows the image to be 'just right' but it's actually alittle under-exposed.
So dial back the brightness on the EVF or use the histogram more.
I also find the start-up time to be slow for a professional-level camera. For eg. it is slower than the Fuji X-E3 which I use abit as well (it must be said that the X-E3 is slower in every other aspects like focus-acquisition, image playback etc).
Don't own other but less than 2 secs from a cold start and what i'd call pretty damn instant from sleep ...

It's full of electronics that take time to startup from power off.
I do not shoot sports nor birds in flight. I use the M1X for general photography, For the last 2 months, I carry it with me for lunch-walks, weekends to get myself familiar with the operation/interface and also to know it's limitations. I like that the buttons are labelled, rather than 'C1, C2.. etc'. I do wish there's a top-panel LCD. So many times I have to peer into the viewfinder just to check my shutter/aperture etc when a glance will do.
The numbers are as clear as day on the rear screen or do you use it with the screen closed?
For all its customisability, there is no button to recall picture style/picture mode. It'd be useful feature for predominately Jpeg shooter like myself to be able to switch from Neutral to Vivid quickly.
To answer your question, the M1X will likely exceed your expectation as a general photographic tool especially when coupled with the excellent m43 lenses.
Excellent photo's
 
For all its customisability, there is no button to recall picture style/picture mode. It'd be useful feature for predominately Jpeg shooter like myself to be able to switch from Neutral to Vivid quickly.
It's in the SCP. I would say it's quick enough.
 
I wish to add that the M1X is an overkill for general photography. It is however in my opinion that in this age of smartphones, using any particular camera has got to be more than just about image quality. It's akin to using a leather-bound Bible or a hand-wound watch, the camera must trigger an inner excitement. And the M1X is such a product.
 
the camera must trigger an inner excitement. And the M1X is such a product.
A brick triggers your inner excitement?

Meh, try a Leica rangefinder ;)
 
Great that you have purchased E-M1X but feel a bit sad that you are not thrilled with it for general photography. I hooe you can sell it without too much loss!

Wait, don’t tell me that you have just answered the question where you were basically lying just to say something bad about camera that isn’t approved by your highly rated expertise but that you don’t own?!
Why try to make this into an attack. The question is- is the EM1X camera good as a tool for general photography. The answer is no.

Just like for the same reason a Nikon D5 is not good for general photography. Or a Fuji XH-1.

These cameras were designed with another market in mind and are more expensive and bigger than required.

Can you do general photography with any of them? You can... is it the best match for that? No, I don't think so.

That's all. I don't know why you attribute this to lying or something. It's just an opinion as a photographer that has seen several cameras.

You really have to ask yourself why you took this so personal.
 
Great that you have purchased E-M1X but feel a bit sad that you are not thrilled with it for general photography. I hooe you can sell it without too much loss!

Wait, don’t tell me that you have just answered the question where you were basically lying just to say something bad about camera that isn’t approved by your highly rated expertise but that you don’t own?!
Why try to make this into an attack. The question is- is the EM1X camera good as a tool for general photography. The answer is no.

Just like for the same reason a Nikon D5 is not good for general photography. Or a Fuji XH-1.

These cameras were designed with another market in mind and are more expensive and bigger than required.

Can you do general photography with any of them? You can... is it the best match for that? No, I don't think so.

That's all. I don't know why you attribute this to lying or something. It's just an opinion as a photographer that has seen several cameras.

You really have to ask yourself why you took this so personal.
 
Great that you have purchased E-M1X but feel a bit sad that you are not thrilled with it for general photography. I hooe you can sell it without too much loss!

Wait, don’t tell me that you have just answered the question where you were basically lying just to say something bad about camera that isn’t approved by your highly rated expertise but that you don’t own?!
Why try to make this into an attack. The question is- is the EM1X camera good as a tool for general photography. The answer is no.

Just like for the same reason a Nikon D5 is not good for general photography. Or a Fuji XH-1.

These cameras were designed with another market in mind and are more expensive and bigger than required.

Can you do general photography with any of them? You can... is it the best match for that? No, I don't think so.

That's all. I don't know why you attribute this to lying or something. It's just an opinion as a photographer that has seen several cameras.

You really have to ask yourself why you took this so personal.
The OP stated that he was asking users of the E-M1X was using the E-M1X for general photography and if the users were happy with the E-M1X. He also asked that no one comments on the E-M1X size and weight.

If you are not an E-M1X user you shouldn't be commenting. Then commenting on size and weight when the OP asked for no comments of size and weight.

Anyhow, I have owned the E-M1X since late February and it is a great camera for general photography. I have taken around 5,000 photos with it so far and I really enjoy using it.
And since you own one can you share HOW and WHY this camera is great for general photography, and how it separates itself from the crowd (by crowd I mean how many against m43 cameras but other system/manufactures as well).
 
Great that you have purchased E-M1X but feel a bit sad that you are not thrilled with it for general photography. I hooe you can sell it without too much loss!

Wait, don’t tell me that you have just answered the question where you were basically lying just to say something bad about camera that isn’t approved by your highly rated expertise but that you don’t own?!
Why try to make this into an attack. The question is- is the EM1X camera good as a tool for general photography. The answer is no.

Just like for the same reason a Nikon D5 is not good for general photography. Or a Fuji XH-1.

These cameras were designed with another market in mind and are more expensive and bigger than required.

Can you do general photography with any of them? You can... is it the best match for that? No, I don't think so.

That's all. I don't know why you attribute this to lying or something. It's just an opinion as a photographer that has seen several cameras.

You really have to ask yourself why you took this so personal.
The OP stated that he was asking users of the E-M1X was using the E-M1X for general photography and if the users were happy with the E-M1X. He also asked that no one comments on the E-M1X size and weight.

If you are not an E-M1X user you shouldn't be commenting. Then commenting on size and weight when the OP asked for no comments of size and weight.

Anyhow, I have owned the E-M1X since late February and it is a great camera for general photography. I have taken around 5,000 photos with it so far and I really enjoy using it.
And since you own one can you share HOW and WHY this camera is great for general photography, and how it separates itself from the crowd (by crowd I mean how many against m43 cameras but other system/manufactures as well).
I’ll bet he can but in the meantime I’ll add my 0.02.
The 1X most definitely is a terrible choice for general photography because the camera will do all of the work and take all of the fun out of photography.
Case in point- I’ve been shooting soccer for years starting with an E3, E5, and, both EM1s. I recently used the 1X for a soccer game and the darn camera made the task so easy that I almost feel like saying I could have shot the game blindfolded.
 
Great that you have purchased E-M1X but feel a bit sad that you are not thrilled with it for general photography. I hooe you can sell it without too much loss!

Wait, don’t tell me that you have just answered the question where you were basically lying just to say something bad about camera that isn’t approved by your highly rated expertise but that you don’t own?!
Why try to make this into an attack. The question is- is the EM1X camera good as a tool for general photography. The answer is no.

Just like for the same reason a Nikon D5 is not good for general photography. Or a Fuji XH-1.

These cameras were designed with another market in mind and are more expensive and bigger than required.

Can you do general photography with any of them? You can... is it the best match for that? No, I don't think so.

That's all. I don't know why you attribute this to lying or something. It's just an opinion as a photographer that has seen several cameras.

You really have to ask yourself why you took this so personal.
The OP stated that he was asking users of the E-M1X was using the E-M1X for general photography and if the users were happy with the E-M1X. He also asked that no one comments on the E-M1X size and weight.

If you are not an E-M1X user you shouldn't be commenting. Then commenting on size and weight when the OP asked for no comments of size and weight.

Anyhow, I have owned the E-M1X since late February and it is a great camera for general photography. I have taken around 5,000 photos with it so far and I really enjoy using it.
And since you own one can you share HOW and WHY this camera is great for general photography, and how it separates itself from the crowd (by crowd I mean how many against m43 cameras but other system/manufactures as well).
I’ll bet he can but in the meantime I’ll add my 0.02.
The 1X most definitely is a terrible choice for general photography because the camera will do all of the work and take all of the fun out of photography.
Top sports pro camera tends to have that effect. Sony A9 with its eye detection totally makes any noob a pro.
Case in point- I’ve been shooting soccer for years starting with an E3, E5, and, both EM1s. I recently used the 1X for a soccer game and the darn camera made the task so easy that I almost feel like saying I could have shot the game blindfolded.
I am not sure if one will classify shooting soccer game as general photography.

To me general photography = Happy holiday family snaps and the like.

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