You don't read correctly. You missed the word "if". I made it bold for you.
Sorry, you really used your imagination here about what i would have said in my last post, the only problem with it is i did not say this.
For young adults, especially (younger) families price matters.
As i said, you need to factor in the price of good glass.
I think the M10 isn't the most appealing camera, and in the mean time it is only the camera.
I think you missed the point of the thread, no? The fact is OP carries an M camera everywhere because of the specific times that a phone camera won't cut it. Which would be the example OP posted.
That is also my way of reading nowaks words. "the notion that the smartphone is utterly garbage" isn't - as i read it - stating Alastair Norcross would have said the phone was garbage, and i also think it wasn't meant to suggest this.
My post was a response to the OPer saying
The 64Gb Pixel 3A is exactly the same price (£399) as the EOS M100 twin lens outfit with the 15-45mm and 22mm lenses. I know which one I'd prefer as I'm writing this on my phone.
I take it you mean you'd prefer the M100 for taking pictures, and the Pixel for writing forum posts. Good choice.
Actually I meant that I've got a perfectly good phone that was less than half the price of the Pixel and doesn't need replacing yet. When it's time, I might be looking at a Pixel 5A or whatever's around then. I'd rather have a phone with a good 5 megapixel camera, easily emailable photos and decent low light performance. That'sa phone camera I'd actually use. Right now, I'd be better putting that sort of money into replacing my Windows 7 laptop.
Maybe it is time to bring along a neutral density filter?
You truly need to upgrade your inadequate phone to one with image stabilization if you can`t steady it good enough for getting a decent shot.
That's the thing - I don't really want to. Even the best phone will never offer the lens options I want. I'd rather spend my money on things that matter than on a better phone.
I got tired of carrying something the size of my 80D, but I'm perfectly happy carrying something the size of the M50. To each their own.
Image stabilization doesn't help with subject movement. Camera phones, even the very good ones, have very small sensors, which suffer from noise at high ISO. So, they choose low shutter speeds. Image stabilization allows for sharp enough shots of stationary objects, but people are always moving, at least a little. This isn't rocket science. It's basic photography. Even the best camera phones can't compete with an APS-C sensor and decent lens in less than the best light. The great thing about the M system is that you can get that sensor in a very small package.
Irrelevant. See above.
Fine. And for those of us who aren't satisfied with camera phone shots, we have the M. You know, the cameras this forum is about. I'm sure there's a forum for camera phones that would be delighted to hear your babblings.
But phones use multi exposure technique. How the different frames are combined to a a higher resolution picture with reduced noise, eliminating movement (to some extend) comes a bit closer to rocket science. I am not saying this is perfect, there are artifacts, and the output resolution and sharpness still aren't what they should be, however, it certainly improves the output compared to what otherwise would have been possible with these smaller sensors.
Pics are nice, but the conditions aren't challenging at all.
Not at all knocking your M6 images, but here are 3 images taken with the Samsung Galaxy S6 cell phone & edited in Elements 13 on my desktop. I have also had 3 - 12"x18" enlargements from my S6 & done by my Pro lab - No noise at all.
