biggest 10-d complaints

David Neese · Oct 2, 2003

I am debating on getting a new camera. I have a G-2 now. The Rebel looks nice, but I know if I buy it I would eventually want all the features that are disabled but are available on the 10-D. I would like to know from 10-D owners what they dislike most about the 10-D so I can seee if that is the camera I want.
Thanks

cp10932 · Oct 2, 2003

David Neese said:
I am debating on getting a new camera. I have a G-2 now. The Rebel
looks nice, but I know if I buy it I would eventually want all the
features that are disabled but are available on the 10-D. I would
like to know from 10-D owners what they dislike most about the 10-D
so I can seee if that is the camera I want.
Thanks

David Neese · Oct 2, 2003

No, what do I look under?

cp10932 said:
David Neese said:

I am debating on getting a new camera. I have a G-2 now. The Rebel
looks nice, but I know if I buy it I would eventually want all the
features that are disabled but are available on the 10-D. I would
like to know from 10-D owners what they dislike most about the 10-D
so I can seee if that is the camera I want.
Thanks

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Dmitry Zee · Oct 2, 2003

David Neese said:
cp10932 said:

David Neese said:

I am debating on getting a new camera. I have a G-2 now. The Rebel
looks nice, but I know if I buy it I would eventually want all the
features that are disabled but are available on the 10-D. I would
like to know from 10-D owners what they dislike most about the 10-D
so I can seee if that is the camera I want.
Thanks

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Kung Pao Panda · Oct 2, 2003

David- I have a 10d, bought new about 4 months ago. right off, I have had problems with dust/dirt on the sensor. Apparently the dust/dirt was on the sensor when shipped. I took the camera to an authorized Canon Service Center and they managed to minimize the dust problem, but still have one stubborn dust spot on the sensor. Otherwise, the 10d, IMHO, is a well built, consumer/pro DSLR. Very user friendly, if you are an EOS user.

David Neese said:
cp10932 said:

David Neese said:

I am debating on getting a new camera. I have a G-2 now. The Rebel
looks nice, but I know if I buy it I would eventually want all the
features that are disabled but are available on the 10-D. I would
like to know from 10-D owners what they dislike most about the 10-D
so I can seee if that is the camera I want.
Thanks

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Scott Fleming · Oct 2, 2003

Randomly peruse this forum for threads relating to the 10D that sound interesting. Take note of those posters who make sense, are informative and don't appear to have an axe to grind. Then look at all the threads you have time for and mostly read what the most valuable posters have to say.

The 10D is a great camera with a limited AF system. Its larger sensor makes it very desirable over the prosumer cameras. It will also draw you into spending a lot of money on lenses as well. If all you do is enjoy taking pics of the kids and pets and vacation snaps ... don't waste your money. If you want framed 8 x 10s hanging on your wall or sitting on the piano that really wow your friends and relatives and will be passed down through the generations .... buy this camera. Or buy the Nikon or Fuji. If you want to take sports pics ... get the D1.
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DavidP #28649 · Oct 2, 2003

I assume you mean the EOS-1D, not the Nikon D1.

Scott Fleming said:
If you want to take sports pics ... get the D1.

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Extrapolation from few solid data points is best left to those with years of training and experience in such things.

cal516 · Oct 2, 2003

There are many threads on this forum about 10D reliability.

In my opinion a small but persistent percentage of 10D's suffer some quality problem which requires interaction with Canon Customer Service. My experiences have not been good.

Details here: http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1019&message=6236675

But, don't take my word. Here is Canon's NJ Repair Center Customer Service number: 732-521-7007. Give 'em a call and see how long it takes to reach a person. Caution: not toll free. Canon does have a 1-800 number but, after calling them I have repeatedly been referred to NJ.

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Ben Strasser · Oct 2, 2003

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1019&message=6235236

cal516 said:
There are many threads on this forum about 10D reliability.

In my opinion a small but persistent percentage of 10D's suffer
some quality problem which requires interaction with Canon Customer
Service. My experiences have not been good.

Details here:
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1019&message=6236675

But, don't take my word. Here is Canon's NJ Repair Center
Customer Service number: 732-521-7007. Give 'em a call and see how
long it takes to reach a person. Caution: not toll free. Canon
does have a 1-800 number but, after calling them I have repeatedly
been referred to NJ.

--
... Cal
Severna Park, Maryland
(pbase supporter)

wmcdowell · Oct 2, 2003

spot meter would be helpfull with wide lenses.

other then that i have no complaints. a word of advice in choseing a cam. don't just consider what you want or need now, think down the road a bit. the extra control with the 10d will keep the cam valid to you longer.

luck

wm

Marko Butrakovic · Oct 2, 2003

Well built, with BiGED more pro-look, loves high quality glass (tamrons, older sTigmas, cheapos are "no way to get descent shot"), unwilling to work with other then canon external flash units, dust problem from (learn to live with it, I allways have a paintbrush in my bag just in case...), likes to underexpose in full frame AE metering mode, very lousy AE when you have to acctually shot something that is black or white in a bright sunny day, AE lock functions lack option to lock both AF and AE on half press shutter(as many digicams default), works well with microdrive, watch your batteries if you'r using IS lenses...they drain life from BP 511's overnight, works great for studio/manual white balance, lousy daylight WB preset, too yellowish, too small viewfinder for the money, slow file downloading via camera, use card reader instead.
Anywayzzz less mesurebating more photos!

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10D + bigED ~ 24-70 2.8L ~ 75-300 IS ~ Fuji 602z ~ EOS 300 ~ Metz 45 cl 4 ~ manfrotoo monopod, ball head ~ cheap tripod ~
Marko Butrakovic
GSM +385.91.537.9113
[email protected]

RichW · Oct 2, 2003

Good list, but AF and AE are locked by default with half press of shutter in evaluative metering in one shot focus (default settings). Also this camera does not underexpose (try the D30 of D60!!). If anything is may overexpose. Compared to other DSLR's, dust problems are minor and easily taken care of.

Rich

Marko Butrakovic said:
Well built, with BiGED more pro-look, loves high quality glass
(tamrons, older sTigmas, cheapos are "no way to get descent shot"),
unwilling to work with other then canon external flash units, dust
problem from (learn to live with it, I allways have a paintbrush
in my bag just in case...), likes to underexpose in full frame AE
metering mode, very lousy AE when you have to acctually shot
something that is black or white in a bright sunny day, AE lock
functions lack option to lock both AF and AE on half press
shutter(as many digicams default), works well with microdrive,
watch your batteries if you'r using IS lenses...they drain life
from BP 511's overnight, works great for studio/manual white
balance, lousy daylight WB preset, too yellowish, too small
viewfinder for the money, slow file downloading via camera, use
card reader instead.
Anywayzzz less mesurebating more photos!

--
10D + bigED ~ 24-70 2.8L ~ 75-300 IS ~ Fuji 602z ~ EOS 300 ~ Metz
45 cl 4 ~ manfrotoo monopod, ball head ~ cheap tripod ~
Marko Butrakovic
GSM +385.91.537.9113
[email protected]

RichW · Oct 2, 2003

hoping nobody would notice.

Rich

DavidP said:
Scott Fleming said:

If you want to take sports pics ... get the D1.

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http://www.neonlightsimaging.com/artshow/final.htm
Extrapolation from few solid data points is best left to those with
years of training and experience in such things.

Marko Butrakovic · Oct 2, 2003

RichW said:
Good list, but AF and AE are locked by default with half press of
shutter in evaluative metering in one shot focus (default
settings).

-------- I can't get it work that way thoe I would like to.

Also this camera does not underexpose (try the D30 of

RichW said:
D60!!).

-------- I used a film cameras until year ago and I must say some (not all) bight daylight photos are a bit underexposed..on the other hand I do work 6-8 hours a day exclusivly in Photoshop (that is what I'm acctually paid for)
so it doesn't represent a problem to mee.

If anything is may overexpose. Compared to other DSLR's,

RichW said:
dust problems are minor and easily taken care of.

-------- I have FUJI s602z and there is a problem. A stronger wind lifts some dirt in the air and you're like passing through and have you happycam ON ...and voila! Test shot at f11 and you got spoty-spot art picture of the sky.

RichW said:
--

10D + bigED ~ 24-70 2.8L ~ 75-300 IS ~ Fuji 602z ~ EOS 300 ~ Metz 45 cl 4 ~ manfrotoo monopod, ball head ~ cheap tripod ~
Marko Butrakovic
GSM +385.91.537.9113
[email protected]

Bill Richardson · Oct 2, 2003

David Neese said:
I am debating on getting a new camera. I have a G-2 now. The Rebel
looks nice, but I know if I buy it I would eventually want all the
features that are disabled but are available on the 10-D. I would
like to know from 10-D owners what they dislike most about the 10-D
so I can seee if that is the camera I want.
Thanks

--I went from a G3 to a 10d. I love it, NO complaints. However, I keep my G3 as an alternative when I want something smaller.
Bill Richardson
Barrington, IL (USA)

Christophe Testi · Oct 2, 2003

I don't like the 1.6 crop factor, especially for landscape, and also 6MP is a little bit too low to make high quality "big" enlargements.

I wish I had 7K in my bank account to buy a 1Ds

--
-Christophe
http://www.ctesti.com/Photo

J A K · Oct 2, 2003

David Neese said:
I am debating on getting a new camera. I have a G-2 now. The Rebel
looks nice, but I know if I buy it I would eventually want all the
features that are disabled but are available on the 10-D. I would
like to know from 10-D owners what they dislike most about the 10-D
so I can seee if that is the camera I want.
Thanks

Hi David:

I'm afraid the 10D could stand a few features. If I were you, I would be thinking of what would make the 10D a better camera rather than cutting back on features. The quick summary is there is nothing about the 10D I absolutely dislike; it is an excellent camera. My wish list for a "dream 10D" is listed below.

The 45 AF points available on the Pro models (1D and 1Ds) might be nice. I'm not absolutely positive on this one, but the addtional 37 AF points might prove to be an advantage for me. I would have to perform a few field tests to see if really is an advantage (for me).

IMO, a mechanical mirror lock-up function would be a nice addition; this is what I'm used to on my F1 bodies. I'm not thrilled about going into a menu and selecting "mirror lock-up"; it is okay, I can live with it, but I'm not happy about it.

I might prefer a 1.25:1 aspect ratio (instead of the 1.5:1 common to the Canon line-up I'm familar with); been thinking about this for some time now.

I'm sort of happy with the 1.6X crop factor (in fact, extremely happy). It would be nice if there was a 10D duplicate body available with a 1.3X crop factor and about 9MP resolution. Of course, I would want an exact mechanical duplicate to the 10D even if that means no mechanical mirror lock-up. What I'm getting at here is I want two identical bodies with different crop factors.

It would have been nice if the LCD display was set into the body. Unfortunately, I seem to wind up with a few LCD burns on my nose after shooting all day.

FWIW, I'm a real happy camper with three Canon lenses (17-40, 28-135, and 100-400) and the 10D.

Hope this helps you out a little.

Regards,

Joe Kurkjian, Pbase Supporter

http://www.pbase.com/jkurkjia

wmcdowell · Oct 2, 2003

J A K said:
The 45 AF points available on the Pro models (1D and 1Ds) might be
nice. I'm not absolutely positive on this one, but the addtional
37 AF points might prove to be an advantage for me. I would have
to perform a few field tests to see if really is an advantage (for
me).

yikes! 45 AF points for a "prosumer" cam. folks seem to be havng trouble figuring out the 7 in the 10d. it was funny how many wanted more then the d30 and d60 had (3 for the d30), now it seems most everyone uses just one. go figure.

wm

Mark Gillett · Oct 2, 2003

David Neese said:
I am debating on getting a new camera. I have a G-2 now. The Rebel
looks nice, but I know if I buy it I would eventually want all the
features that are disabled but are available on the 10-D. I would
like to know from 10-D owners what they dislike most about the 10-D
so I can seee if that is the camera I want.
Thanks

J A K · Oct 2, 2003

wmcdowell said:
wmcdowell said:

The 45 AF points available on the Pro models (1D and 1Ds) might be
nice. I'm not absolutely positive on this one, but the addtional
37 AF points might prove to be an advantage for me. I would have
to perform a few field tests to see if really is an advantage (for
me).

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yikes! 45 AF points for a "prosumer" cam. folks seem to be havng
trouble figuring out the 7 in the 10d. it was funny how many
wanted more then the d30 and d60 had (3 for the d30), now it seems
most everyone uses just one. go figure.

Relax WM - I said it "might" prove to be an advantage.

It depends on how the points around the central point would work during tracking of a moving object. The single AF point has not proven to be a problem for acquisition of a moving object. I'm not absolutely sure, but additional AF points around the center might be a superb addition for tracking targets exhibiting random motion (i.e. tracking animals (e.g. ducks), not cars).

IMO, the 10D's seven AF points "as is" are not of much value to me (unless of course they were closely clustered around the central point).

I'm not saying your post is incorrect - just pointing out there might be an opportunity with additional points. Without testing a 1D/1Ds on six or seven trips to the zoo, I'll never know for sure.

Regards,

Joe Kurkjian, Pbase Supporter

http://www.pbase.com/jkurkjia

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