looks like topaz is saying DeNoise AI is their best NR product for now
You can't argue with a free upgrade, especially when you get to keep the old plugin as well. Less controls but it does a fair job out of the box. Not sure about the sharpening. Makes a mess of the signs in my example, but it did a pretty good job on some branches against a sky (not shown).
I have DxO Prime, and DeNoise AI and AI Clear. I am not having any pain. Additionally, I find DeNoise AI is taking less time than DxO Prime.
Running Topaz AI-NR has induced no pain for me. I have a fast machine, and AI-NR is running fine for me.
Perhaps you are using the default settings and not making any adjustments on your own, because those adjustments do take time. Also, I have found the final output from AI NR is much slower than from DxO with PRIME on my computer.
I am running it on a machine designed for LR and PS. Those packages fly.
I have only timed it once, but it seems to be the same for multiple runs.
I tend to agree in principle. But with both LR and CO I don't know the order they process in. When I play with an image in PS where I can control the order after I use Camera Raw, it seems to make little if any detectable difference before of after tonal adjustments.
I only shoot in raw, and I have only tested raws and tiffs so far. My only jpegs are finished photos, generally to share on the web.
No, I make separate adjustments every time.
What I have done so far is to start with Lightroom, and let Lightroom call DeNoise AI with a TIFF file.
So there's little chance that someone on this thread will have the same computer, OS, and be processing the same RAW file generated by the same camera.
The way I see it is that AI clear tackles light to medium noise very well, Denoise Ai was targeted towards medium/heavy noise and Sharpen Ai is targeted towards removing blur...
I am not sure that it is messing up text. A an example, here is a shot taken in front of the LA Zoo. I used an Olympus EM5ii with the 12-40mm f2.8 Pro lens. This was taken at 12mm.You can't argue with a free upgrade, especially when you get to keep the old plugin as well. Less controls but it does a fair job out of the box. Not sure about the sharpening. Makes a mess of the signs in my example, but it did a pretty good job on some branches against a sky (not shown).
I like how it came out. I have one image of an "old cowboy" like this that also came out well. I am finding that deNoise AI is doing well on faces in poor light.I use Denoise AI on some shots of a performer in low light stage light (changing colored LED's) all shot at the same ISO of 6400 on a E-M!X and 75 1.8
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Results were very good.........
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Image is one of the good ones. I like the grit and realism that grain gives skin. So I masked the denoised layer and reduced the denoising in the skin ares to show more grain - to taste. .....
Larry
I have also experienced DeNoise AI missing some areas. Don't know if this is still a bug that they need to work out. Tended to be where a dark shadow was in the background.I use Denoise AI on some shots of a performer in low light stage light (changing colored LED's) all shot at the same ISO of 6400 on a E-M!X and 75 1.8
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Results were very good. Since all images were close to the same I wanted to batch process which is not available. By putting the selects in a separate folder and running from PS File->Scripts->Image Processor an action that created a new layer and then called Denoise AI, set some parameters, and then closed, I was able to batch. The action is simple and easy to create,
What I found surprised me. On a couple of images there where areas that were not denoised. This was a high contrast edge against smooth out of focus background with no detail. There were several other areas of highlight, mostly specular, that also were not processed. They were easy to fix using a low Gaussian blur on the selected regions, but still a time killer.
What was strange is that most of the other shots, often the next one that was taken a minute latter, were fine. Most of the shots were processed fine.
On the shots without the artifacts the results were outstanding.
This is a new program and does not have the refinements of most Topaz programs. No presets and the setting are not sticky. This will all come with upgrades as well as improvements the algorithm that should fix the areas that are not processed.
Image is one of the good ones. I like the grit and realism that grain gives skin. So I masked the denoised layer and reduced the denoising in the skin ares to show more grain - to taste. On the bad images the area at the bottom of the image over his right shoulder was the are effected. It is fine here.
Larry
