Digital capture to silver gelatin printing

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I’ve been shooting and printing digital for years and before that scanned film to digital. However, I’ve recently become increasingly fascinated with silver gelatin prints and notice that it accounts for the majority of what I see hanging in galleries. They seem to have a certain “magic” to them that inkjet almost, but not quite matches. Platinum and palladium also interest me.

Is there a process for getting from digital capture to traditional analog print making? My attempts to search for information on such a process have come up empty. Perhaps I just need a proper keyword to search for.

I could see myself someday shooting film again in some cases just for fun or as a way to get in to medium or large format, but I can’t imagine giving up digital for the bulk of my photographic capture.

Any help appreciated.

Keith
 
I’ve recently become increasingly fascinated with silver gelatin prints ....

Is there a process for getting from digital capture to traditional analog print making?
There are many options to get 'real' silver-halide prints from digital files. They run from places like Mpix that will print your digital image file onto Ilford resin-coated B&W paper for about $3 for an 8x10 inch print, to pro labs that will print your file onto fiber-based B&W paper for about $50 for an 8x10 inch print, or even more if you want something like selenium toning. I recently cataloged and linked to a bunch of the options at:

https://forum2.luminous-landscape.com/index.php?topic=129683.0
 
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If you are interested in a DIY approach, investigate the topic of "digital negatives".

A few links to get you started...

https://www.freestylephoto.biz/alternative-process/making-digital-negatives

https://www.amazon.com/Digital-Negatives-Photoshop-Alternative-Printing/dp/0240808541

https://piezography.com/piezodn

I have not made silver gelatin prints from digital negatives, as I find my prints made with the Pizography system far surpass anything I ever made in the darkroom. I do, however, use digital negatives for alternative processes, mainly cyanotypes and salt prints.

Beware... this is a rabbit hole... enjoyable none-the-less! 😀

Regards,
 
I’ve been shooting and printing digital for years and before that scanned film to digital. However, I’ve recently become increasingly fascinated with silver gelatin prints and notice that it accounts for the majority of what I see hanging in galleries. They seem to have a certain “magic” to them that inkjet almost, but not quite matches. Platinum and palladium also interest me.

Is there a process for getting from digital capture to traditional analog print making? My attempts to search for information on such a process have come up empty. Perhaps I just need a proper keyword to search for.

I could see myself someday shooting film again in some cases just for fun or as a way to get in to medium or large format, but I can’t imagine giving up digital for the bulk of my photographic capture.

Any help appreciated.
Keith,

I have 30 years experience as a drum scanner operator. I made my first darkroom print in the mid-1950s and have printed every kind of analogue image from small negative B&W and color through medium format and large format B&W, cibachromes, dye transfer and lithography processes up to 300 line screen halftones (negatives up to 24x30").

in the early 1990s I got my first Iris printer - essentially the beginning of digital inkjet printing as we now know it. From that time, combined with drum scanned film (and digital camera images) I have used (high-end) ink jet printers to the exclusion of darkroom "wet" prints. That first Iris print was a watershed event and felt like liberation from the limitations of the darkroom. Good riddance to that wet, usually cramped place. (I will admit I still have a strange fondness for the smell of film, developer and fixer!)

Digital printing offers far more control and image quality than was ever obtained from analogue printing methods. Looking back at the best we could laboriously do in the darkroom just pales in comparison to the quality (in every parameter) that digital methods almost effortlessly produce today.

If you see something in gallery (analog) prints that has "certain 'magic' . . . that inkjet almost, but not quite matches," it's probably the photographic skill of those photographers and has nothing to do with the fact that the prints are silver based.

There has developed (pun intended) a cult-like "true believer" following that insists that silver-gelatin prints are the holy grail of photographic printing. From this photography veteran's perspective it's all just silly hype. (That's my polite response)

Ansel Adams, one of the finest analog printers in photographic history, in my opinion would have given up all his darkroom equipment for a copy of Photoshop and a large format Epson, Canon or HP printer. If he were alive today, I think he would be the leading proponent of digital image making.

For nostalgia's sake, good luck with any efforts you make in using film again. I still use my Pentax 645N and a Sinar 4x5 view camera but I scan all film images they produce. They're old friends, and it's interesting to show them to people who have actually never seen a film camera. But I'll permanently retire the 645N this year when I get a Fujifilm Digital MF. And the 4x5 will see very little additional use. In fact, I will probably fit the DMF to it as a "digital back" for its swings and tilts.

Rich
 
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I would spend time at Jon Cone, Inkjetmall. He has many systems for taking digital images, generating a digital negative on a inkjet printer (we used to do film negs for alternative processes, of course) and then contact printing that negative onto silver halide, platinum, palladium, cyanotype, etc.

https://cone-editions.com/about/#history

Can't find his older history page which did a better job of laying out the evolution of process.

Interesting that what started out in part as a proofing device for graphic artists (instead of a very short press run) has turned into the modern printing press for photo, signs, garments, etc.

I still cherish hands-on stuff, but I agree with the previous poster. Ansel Adams, Edward Weston, W Eugene Smith, Wynn Bullock, etc. would, I'm sure, heartily adopt the modern inkjet printing. Ralph Gibson's Lustrum Darkroom Books are a nice read on many of the strategies and manipulations of the film and darkroom era. However, developing a black and white negative is still a marvel.

Jon Cone is also now offering workshops in creating direct photopolymer plates that can be inked and printed on a traditional etching press.

Also, take a look at:

Dan Burkholder

Bostick & Sullivan

Yes, contemporary inkjet printing is astounding, but it is also fantastic to combine digital with traditional and accept the serendipity of a process, something which the modern ethos seems to reject.
 
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If you see something in gallery (analog) prints that has "certain 'magic' . . . that inkjet almost, but not quite matches," it's probably the photographic skill of those photographers and has nothing to do with the fact that the prints are silver based.
I agree with this statement ,-) All ways of printing images are different and there have been many over the years. "Magic" is perhaps confused with emotionality and nostalgia; nothing against.
I wish everything was so much cheaper to use different printing methods and produce different tangible objects. Therefore, my images only have a digital or offset life when they are industrially printed for commercial use.
Photography is remembrance of the sun and the reality of time; with this raw material the most "magical" is the photographer's look.
 

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