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Raist3d
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Thanks for the reply would be great to see some of your work to out more weight to the claims
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Ricoh no longer a street photography camera
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TakiNufuji
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There are far more Japanese walking in Tokyo with camera than I saw people in New York City for year. Still lot of film photographers here and people with 10 year old digital. People don't obsessed here.
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TakiNufuji
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Definitely wide enough for landscape or more so with 21mmI’ve shot tons of landscape photos with GRs. For years it was my primary walking and hiking camera. I’m still printing pictures from a series of long walks in Point Reyes National Seashore some years ago and they’re fantastic.I did...fantastic prime, Bayer CFA, easy to transport and excellent IQ for large prints. Now with 24mp and IBIS it's a stellar choice IMO. I'll definitely be upgrading in the nnext month or so.I won't hate it so hard
The biggest problem I see are obviously smartphones. For the wideangle, big depth od field street/reportage photography focused more on content than picture quality, which would be the primary application for GR (IMO), the phones got really good.
If you look at Dmitry Markov's work done with iphone 7... it's amazing and that gap in picture quality is getting smaller with every generation of phones.
For landscape photography it would be a different story, but I don't think that is the reason most people buy the GR for.
Sal
Small, light, wide angle lens - makes a great landscape camera.
Slow low light focusing I'd agree with.
But there are plenty of times you want a slow shutter speed specifically *because* things are moving. IBIS is great for those times.
Shawn
Image stabilization is useful if things are moving and you want motion blur. Then it is fantastic to have and a great tool.
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JL Auch
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How so?
Sal Baker
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The XF-10 has no hot shoe so off-camera flash is limited to optical slave only with no on-camera power level control.
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TakiNufuji
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Not true. Not everyone demands new or needs to dig into menu after camera is set up. Fuji x70 , Nikon A
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It is quite true, in my country the Fuji X70 is now premium price as its unavailable and some are priced as much as a new GR III from many. Nikon A is unobtainable, I have not seen any for a long time.
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The internet is world wide !
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Maybe, but postage of Lithium batteries with regards to used goods is restricted and difficult. Camera with no battery is not a lot of use except as a paperweight.
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Lobbamobba
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Depends on the user. I never use flash for street. The AF is arbitrary, I use snap or a custom saved MF distance. Battery has been fine so far, no complaints.
What it should have to become a really good street camera imo is a tilt screen. That for me is one of the best street features a camera can have (but absolutely not a fully articulated, thats useless for street imo and I rather have a fixed screen than that).
What it should have to become a really good street camera imo is a tilt screen. That for me is one of the best street features a camera can have (but absolutely not a fully articulated, thats useless for street imo and I rather have a fixed screen than that).
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Lobbamobba
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If you like it use it and enjoy it, it's just my thoughts. For me it is to big, slow, draws attention and fiddly with no added perks.
- Tilt = Awesome,
- Fixed = ok
- Fully articulated = Deal breaker
I have never shot with a Ricoh GR but I was really looking forward to the GRIII. But now after reading so much negatives about the GRIII – bad battery life, slow AF, not that good dynamic range, wobbly dial, camera's bluetooth can not connect to iPhone/iPad, the camera gets very warm after a short usage, recalls in Korea and Japan, talk of that the camera is still in beta-stage... I'm dissappointed and no longer know if I will buy the GRIII. Maybe in a year when they fix everything.
Lobbamobba
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I my experience so far,
- Battery ok
- AF ok (use snap anyway)
- Insanely good Dynamic Range
- Dial ok
- Bluetooth will connect as soon as they update. This is a made up issue. It's like when a new non-ricoh camera isn't supported in LR, every one knows we just have to wait a little.
- No temperature issue.
Sal Baker
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Are we talking about the same thing? Which fully articulated screen camera are you referring to? In simple tilt mode why would it be slow, too big, fiddly and draw attention?
Some of the perks for me is composing and shooting at waist, chest, ground level in vertical (portrait orientation) and the ability to compose sideways and from above when desired. YMMV.
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Lobbamobba
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All of them
I think the first go-around of GrIII's have issues but to look at this overall thread and to say that the Ricoh is not a street camera is pretty bogus.
Who cares if the dial is wobbly....or lack of bluetooth or connection to iPhone etc....it is the camera and the images taken from that camera that count.
If I can use my Leica M3 from 1963 and take effective street shots.....is that the camera or me? The camera is film so I am limited to 36 per roll, the camera is 'heavy' and really heavy after caring it around for a few hours....and I need to really know my photo basics (exposure, shutter etc etc) in order to take images. If I compared 'all of that' with just about any digital camera I would say that the Leica is a poor camera. But really? A poor Leica? No.... it all comes down to me as a photographer as to the quality of my images.
Same with the Ricoh.....it is a perfect street camera. Small...... Great images.... easy to use. Do I really need an unwobbly button or bluetooth to make it a street camera? If so, if so....perhaps you less of a 'photographer' and more of a 'camera option junky'...
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