Family European Trip and Lenses

The Saturday yellow vest riots in Paris are definitely a concern right now...
I've said this before in other similar threads but generally there seems to be an overblowing of the situation in Europe, especially by people on the other side of the pond.

I understand why one would want to avoid Paris at the moment - though they'd probably have plenty of chances for exciting, unique photography if they caught a protest.

But why avoid Barcelona?
Not a problem if you are extra careful with your belongings, wallet, camera gear, mobile phone, etc. As a tourist, one tends to be relaxed watching around, and usually it's when one of the hundreds pickpockets around attacks. And this is just one of the possible issues there.
 
The Saturday yellow vest riots in Paris are definitely a concern right now...
I've said this before in other similar threads but generally there seems to be an overblowing of the situation in Europe, especially by people on the other side of the pond.

I understand why one would want to avoid Paris at the moment - though they'd probably have plenty of chances for exciting, unique photography if they caught a protest.

But why avoid Barcelona?
Not a problem if you are extra careful with your belongings, wallet, camera gear, mobile phone, etc. As a tourist, one tends to be relaxed watching around, and usually it's when one of the hundreds pickpockets around attacks. And this is just one of the possible issues there.
This is a problem that is basically true anywhere. Sure, some places are safer than others, but in the end, it doesn't take much to be aware of one's surroundings when travelling. It is really easy to spot the pickpockets around. If a place is worthy of any tourism, there will be some sort of scammer, pickpocket, mugger or thief. It's an unfortunate side-effect of tourism.
 
The Saturday yellow vest riots in Paris are definitely a concern right now...
I've said this before in other similar threads but generally there seems to be an overblowing of the situation in Europe, especially by people on the other side of the pond.

I understand why one would want to avoid Paris at the moment - though they'd probably have plenty of chances for exciting, unique photography if they caught a protest.

But why avoid Barcelona?
Not a problem if you are extra careful with your belongings, wallet, camera gear, mobile phone, etc. As a tourist, one tends to be relaxed watching around, and usually it's when one of the hundreds pickpockets around attacks. And this is just one of the possible issues there.
This is a problem that is basically true anywhere. Sure, some places are safer than others, but in the end, it doesn't take much to be aware of one's surroundings when travelling. It is really easy to spot the pickpockets around. If a place is worthy of any tourism, there will be some sort of scammer, pickpocket, mugger or thief. It's an unfortunate side-effect of tourism.
As you have said correctly, some places worse than others, BCN is on the bad side. Anyway, have a nice trip there!
 
Thanks for the travel tips, but the trip is already booked.

Still not sure about bringing the enormous and expensive 10-24, but thanks all for the feedback.
 
Thanks for the travel tips, but the trip is already booked.

Still not sure about bringing the enormous and expensive 10-24, but thanks all for the feedback.
I’m currently on a trip traveling across Spain. I brought my X-H1 with 10-24, 18-55, and 35 f/2. So far in Madrid the 10-24 is the only lens I’ve used. The streets are narrow and plazas are very crowded. It’s also very helpful for interiors. It obviously depends to some extent on your shooting/subject preferences, but I think that you’d regret not bringing the 10-24. Just use the camera's electronic level and keep the camera horizontal as much as possible and then crop in post if needed.

Also, regarding theft: I bought a Pacsafe camera sling bag and it fits the above gear nicely along with the charger, 2 extra batteries, filter, and personal belongings. Great build quality and anti-theft features, and it’s comfortable to carry.
 
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Hi, three suggestions. First, travelling with the family is a key sentence. Most families, mine included, have a low patience level for someone always stopping to change lenses. So in the main zooms rather than primes. This is my experience from have both sets. The 18-55 is perfect.

Second, many European cites, especially in France and Italy, have narrow streets, so wider than 18 would be an advantage. I teamed my 18-55 with a 14/f2.8. Same lens hood and filter thread. Works a treat.

Third, if you wanted a wider, low light lens that is small and light, I use the 23/f2, again, works a treat. Yes, the f1.4 version would be better, but at a cost in £, weight and size.

Hope that helps and enjoy the trip.
 
Just forget Barcelona and Paris, there's so much more, much safer and interesting places to see in Europe...
Understanding the concerns you have about Paris I have to comment that it is truly my favorite city in Europe. I've lived in different places in Europe for a total of 4 years, been to Paris 5 times, and would go back tomorrow in a heartbeat. When I took my kids to Europe for a 6 week trip Paris was one of their highlights.
 
10-24 for tight European streets.
 
Take it - also don’t leave behind 10-24.
I would leave the 50-230 at home; you won’t want to be changing lenses a ton while on vacation while running around with your family.
 
Compromise: take all the lenses that you can comfortably take in your carry-on bag that fits under the airplane seat, and at the destination, choose 1-2 for each day depending on the itinerary!

That’s how I travel, anyway.
 
Compromise: take all the lenses that you can comfortably take in your carry-on bag that fits under the airplane seat, and at the destination, choose 1-2 for each day depending on the itinerary!

That’s how I travel, anyway.
I think if you want to travel light - the 10-24 on the camera and 50-230mm in the bag would be good options.
 
I think you didn't mention what photos do you take? Architecture, street photos, only family? Barcelona can be very crowded and narrow in the centre. You should have included Prague in your itinerary and give yourself 3 weeks.
 
Thanks for the travel tips, but the trip is already booked.

Still not sure about bringing the enormous and expensive 10-24, but thanks all for the feedback.
Well, there are the smaller and cheaper XF16 f2.8 or XC15-45.

Just get good insurance for your camera gear and don't worry about it so much.

Have you considered a cheap used backup body?

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When I traveled through France and in particular Paris, the 14 was basically glued to my camera.
 
I think you didn't mention what photos do you take? Architecture, street photos, only family? Barcelona can be very crowded and narrow in the centre. You should have included Prague in your itinerary and give yourself 3 weeks.
Both Architecture and Family.

I'd love to stay longer. Loved Prague on a previous visit.
 
Thanks for the travel tips, but the trip is already booked.

Still not sure about bringing the enormous and expensive 10-24, but thanks all for the feedback.
Well, there are the smaller and cheaper XF16 f2.8 or XC15-45.

Just get good insurance for your camera gear and don't worry about it so much.

Have you considered a cheap used backup body?
Would the 16/2.8 be too similar of focal length to the 18-55?
 
Thanks for the travel tips, but the trip is already booked.

Still not sure about bringing the enormous and expensive 10-24, but thanks all for the feedback.
Well, there are the smaller and cheaper XF16 f2.8 or XC15-45.

Just get good insurance for your camera gear and don't worry about it so much.

Have you considered a cheap used backup body?
Would the 16/2.8 be too similar of focal length to the 18-55?
Set your 10-24 to 16 and the 18 to decide for yourself.
 
Thanks for the travel tips, but the trip is already booked.

Still not sure about bringing the enormous and expensive 10-24, but thanks all for the feedback.
Barcelona is worth visiting, but also has a bad reputation for theft, and the police for ignoring it. (That's reputation, not my personal experience.) Paris seems to me less so, and you have more space around you there.

In Europe I carried the 18-55 and the Samyang 12mm only. The Samyang is small and cheap and very sharp - manual exposure only but hardly needs focussing, the depth-of-field is so wide. Highly recommended on this Forum: see Samyang/Rokinon 12mm f2 and XT20

Samyang 12mm f/2 1/20th second
Samyang 12mm f/2 1/20th second
 
Compromise: take all the lenses that you can comfortably take in your carry-on bag that fits under the airplane seat, and at the destination, choose 1-2 for each day depending on the itinerary!

That’s how I travel, anyway
I noticed that nearly all my shots with the 18-55 were either at 18 or 55. I was always trying to get wider or narrower. So, the last time I went to Europe I took just the 10-24 and the 50-230. It worked really well and I didn’t miss the gap between 24 and 50. Next time I think I might add the 35f1.4 just to have something with a fast aperture along for evenings, etc.
 
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I am now contemplating taking the 10-24 along with the 35/2 for daily outings. If I have room, I might pack the 18-55 & 50-230
 

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