Your view of the FE 70-200mm f/2.8 GM OSS

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So lets forget about size, weight, and price. They are what they are. That is the cost of entry for a lens like this.

I am considering getting one finally to use for event and sports shooting for my Sony system where I know it the right focal length and the speed are what I need. Have a huge amount of experience with the Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II on my Canon systems.

So what is my question? The question is what do I have to watch out for with this lens? How does it perform? What are strengths and its weaknesses? I have read the reviews but most are old from when it came out where everyone was in love with the fact that Sony created the GM family. Its been a few years now and I am wondering how owners that have had it feel about it 1 to 2 years later. Also wondering what I should watch out for?

If you have experience with one I would love to hear from you. Thank you in advance.

Steve

p.s. I have adapted my Canon to my Sony bodies but I want something that can focus faster and allow my A9 to shoot at high frame rates. So that is why I want a native lens.
 
I recently upgraded the FE70-200/F4 to FE70-200/F2.8 GM. I like it!

The image is sharper and has more contrast. Its focus speed and accuracy are great with the A9. I bought it at a local store, tested at the store, and it works great for me.
 
I recently upgraded the FE70-200/F4 to FE70-200/F2.8 GM. I like it!

The image is sharper and has more contrast. Its focus speed and accuracy are great with the A9. I bought it at a local store, tested at the store, and it works great for me.
Vett93,

Thanks for your comments. For Sony I currently have the F/4 version as well but will sell it when I get the F/2.8. I admit I am expecting to realize what your experiencing when I put it on my A9.

Steve W
 
I have this lens - it's a workhorse lens. Cream of the crop. Nothing wrong with it. Best 70-200 you can buy for your sony (obviously since it's 2.8 GM).

That's not really the question though.

I bought my lens to shoot sports too. To be frank, 200mm is not even a lot of zoom for sports. I should've bought the Sigma 150-600mm instead. I need that 600mm for super cool shots. But now that I bought it 70-200mm Sony, it's not like I'm going to sell it and take a huge loss. This is a flagship lens that will I will have for 10+ foreseeable years anyways.

I would do some research to see if the 200mm reach is enough for you.
 
I have owned this lens for a while, mostly used in portrait. So far does't have much chance to use in events, wildlife and sport areas that this lens is very versatile for but I will find the chances. I owned Canon counterpart EF 70-200L/2.8 IS II. It's one of the lenses I must own. As Canon version I carried last time this lens will be the lens on 2nd camera in my next Africa safari trip.

My copy is very sharp including at 200mm side. Here are full size test samples at 70mm, 135 (actual 138mm) and 200mm FL @F2.8 wide open.

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Coming from Nikon 70-200 f2.8 VRII, I’m happy with the 70-200 f2.8 GM. Used for indoor sports stills and some video. I own the 70-200 f4 G as well. Great lens for video work when light is enough and good for stills when one doesn’t want to carry the f2.8 GM. Besides, it’s AF is less noisy than the GM one.

I don’t find important diferences between the Nikon and the Sony 70-200 f2.8, except the much better MFD from the Sony.

Pretty happy with my copy of the lens.
 
I have this lens - it's a workhorse lens. Cream of the crop. Nothing wrong with it. Best 70-200 you can buy for your sony (obviously since it's 2.8 GM).

That's not really the question though.

I bought my lens to shoot sports too. To be frank, 200mm is not even a lot of zoom for sports. I should've bought the Sigma 150-600mm instead. I need that 600mm for super cool shots. But now that I bought it 70-200mm Sony, it's not like I'm going to sell it and take a huge loss. This is a flagship lens that will I will have for 10+ foreseeable years anyways.

I would do some research to see if the 200mm reach is enough for you.
Thanks Mike, I know for my needs the 70-200 has a fit. As I mentioned i have been using that focal length on my Canon. I've had it for better part of 10 years so I am familiar with that. I also have the 100-400mm Sony and the TC 1.4x so from that point of view I know what I am buying and why.

Steve
 
I'm assuming (?) you've found in your research that you can also use your 1.4TC with this lens, which can give you added flexibility for sports/action shooting. Can't help you with the lens - while I briefly considered it, it was heavier and more expensive than the 100-400 which I eventually acquired for the additional reach. Were I an indoor sports or portrait shooter, it would go to the top of my list.
 
I have taken tens of thousands of sports photos with it on the A9 and LOVE it. Both the IQ and the focus speed + accuracy.

I tend to use f1.4-1.8 lenses for event photography, so I can’t give my opinion on it for that kind of work.

I have had zero issues with it. Always on a sling strap to my side and still rocking. Been in light rain several times and not had any problems (though I try to be smart about that...).

I love its rendering of people a lot and and am planning to start using it for portraits to replace other glass. Trying to simplify :)
 
I'm assuming (?) you've found in your research that you can also use your 1.4TC with this lens, which can give you added flexibility for sports/action shooting. Can't help you with the lens - while I briefly considered it, it was heavier and more expensive than the 100-400 which I eventually acquired for the additional reach. Were I an indoor sports or portrait shooter, it would go to the top of my list.
Yes on the TC. I actually already own it and the 100-400mm but for some sports the f/2.8 is more appropriate. Love my 100-400 but need the 1 and 2/3 stop faster speed from 100-200mm

Steve
 
I have taken tens of thousands of sports photos with it on the A9 and LOVE it. Both the IQ and the focus speed + accuracy.

I tend to use f1.4-1.8 lenses for event photography, so I can’t give my opinion on it for that kind of work.

I have had zero issues with it. Always on a sling strap to my side and still rocking. Been in light rain several times and not had any problems (though I try to be smart about that...).

I love its rendering of people a lot and and am planning to start using it for portraits to replace other glass. Trying to simplify :)
Thank you for the info and the links to the pictures you provided. Great to see some real sports shots with it. I think it will do great work for me.

Steve W
 
I'm using it very often with the A9 to capture dance/stage, it is sharp wide open and tracks very well. I have some concerns as when turning on after 1-2 days of pause, it makes a whistling sound at the beginning. When the focusing mechanism is moved by 1-2 turns, then the sound stops. My feeling is the the lubrication of the AF mechanism is somehow not sufficient, but who knows. I hope it will not fail when I'm on an assignment. Anyone else with similar problem?
 
So lets forget about size, weight, and price. They are what they are. That is the cost of entry for a lens like this.

I am considering getting one finally to use for event and sports shooting for my Sony system where I know it the right focal length and the speed are what I need. Have a huge amount of experience with the Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II on my Canon systems.

So what is my question? The question is what do I have to watch out for with this lens? How does it perform? What are strengths and its weaknesses? I have read the reviews but most are old from when it came out where everyone was in love with the fact that Sony created the GM family. Its been a few years now and I am wondering how owners that have had it feel about it 1 to 2 years later. Also wondering what I should watch out for?

If you have experience with one I would love to hear from you. Thank you in advance.

Steve

p.s. I have adapted my Canon to my Sony bodies but I want something that can focus faster and allow my A9 to shoot at high frame rates. So that is why I want a native lens.
I was adapting EF lenses in this focal range when the 70-200 GM was released, and my interest was piqued.

Then I held off buying it for about a year due to various FUD opinions and reviews raising doubts about it. Finally I decided to bite ht bullet and bought a copy in late 2017.

I should not have waited. It is an absolutely stunning lens - handles beautifully, focuses like greased lightning, very sharp and renders gorgeously. I'd rate it as the best 70-200 I've shot. One afternoon out shooting sports (windsurfers) with it and I was totally hooked.

Since then I've continued to enjoy it - no regrets. And it's been solidly reliable. I use it with the TCs (I have both, but find the results with this lens best with the 1.4x).

I recommend you try it. I doubt you will be disappointed.
 
I have had this lens since its first release and use it almost exclusively for theatrical work, sometimes in very poor light. I previously used the f4 version but came to realise that I needed the f2.8 to get the results I was looking for. This lens is super sharp wide open and the focus is very quick and accurate. You will not be disappointed.



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I read several negative rumors about its reliability and strength, but can't say anything more substantial than that.

If that's an important factor for you, maybe search Lensrentals reviews and the WWW in general.
Here's a teardown on lensrentals:
There're important findings regarding this lens' reliability. It's not as strong mechanically, as its price, weight and color imply, unfortunately.
1mm thick aluminum plates maybe shouldn’t be used to hold two halves of a heavy lens together. And yes, [...], I know the Sony engineers are smarter than I am. They designed 962 really great parts that I couldn’t have designed. But it doesn’t take massive engineering knowledge to figure out that the thinnest piece of soft metal shouldn’t hold the two biggest pieces together.
A good quote from the comments:
This design strikes me as "unbalanced", by which I mean that it's extremely robust in some respects but not in others. Ironically the fact that the halves are heavily built with thick metal barrels increases the vulnerability of that joint.

I also wonder how much shock and vibration testing this design saw. The middle joint looks like a shock vulnerability even at the low accelerations that are typically used for product testing, and those springs look like they wouldn't last very long on the shake table.
 
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Vladimir, Thank you for the links to the LR teardown.
I read several negative rumors about its reliability and strength, but can't say anything more substantial than that.

If that's an important factor for you, maybe search Lensrentals reviews and the WWW in general.
Here's a teardown on lensrentals:
There're important findings regarding this lens' reliability. It's not as strong mechanically, as its price, weight and color imply, unfortunately.
1mm thick aluminum plates maybe shouldn’t be used to hold two halves of a heavy lens together. And yes, [...], I know the Sony engineers are smarter than I am. They designed 962 really great parts that I couldn’t have designed. But it doesn’t take massive engineering knowledge to figure out that the thinnest piece of soft metal shouldn’t hold the two biggest pieces together.
A good quote from the comments:
This design strikes me as "unbalanced", by which I mean that it's extremely robust in some respects but not in others. Ironically the fact that the halves are heavily built with thick metal barrels increases the vulnerability of that joint.

I also wonder how much shock and vibration testing this design saw. The middle joint looks like a shock vulnerability even at the low accelerations that are typically used for product testing, and those springs look like they wouldn't last very long on the shake table.
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My copy is as sharp as the Canon 70-200mm f2.8 II and slightly sharper than the Nikon Version II lenses that I used to shoot. Overall, it is an excellent lens. It does not tolerate teleconverters as well as the 100-400, however.

Roger with Lens Rentals says he would not buy one due to the fragile construction (they are experiencing about a 10% failure rate with this lens and Roger did not have kind things to say when he did the tear-down). That does not stop me since I tend to baby my equipment. It might be different if I was a National Geographic photographer. :)

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My copy is as sharp as the Canon 70-200mm f2.8 II and slightly sharper than the Nikon Version II lenses that I used to shoot. Overall, it is an excellent lens. It does not tolerate teleconverters as well as the 100-400, however.

Roger with Lens Rentals says he would not buy one due to the fragile construction (they are experiencing about a 10% failure rate with this lens and Roger did not have kind things to say when he did the tear-down). That does not stop me since I tend to baby my equipment. It might be different if I was a National Geographic photographer. :)
I find mine takes the 1.4x teleconverter just fine, but there's a more noticeable drop in sharpness with the 2.0x TC. Whereas on the 100-400, both teleconverters work about equally as well from an IQ standpoint.

Regarding robustness, While I note Roger's review, I have to say I don't particularly baby my gear (though I don't deliberately abuse it either). I've had mine a bit over a year so far and it hasn't missed a beat. For anyone in the Pro Support program (as I suspect most owners of lenses at this level would be) I think it's not something to be particularly concerned about.
 
My copy is as sharp as the Canon 70-200mm f2.8 II and slightly sharper than the Nikon Version II lenses that I used to shoot. Overall, it is an excellent lens. It does not tolerate teleconverters as well as the 100-400, however.

Roger with Lens Rentals says he would not buy one due to the fragile construction (they are experiencing about a 10% failure rate with this lens and Roger did not have kind things to say when he did the tear-down). That does not stop me since I tend to baby my equipment. It might be different if I was a National Geographic photographer. :)
I find mine takes the 1.4x teleconverter just fine, but there's a more noticeable drop in sharpness with the 2.0x TC. Whereas on the 100-400, both teleconverters work about equally as well from an IQ standpoint.

Regarding robustness, While I note Roger's review, I have to say I don't particularly baby my gear (though I don't deliberately abuse it either). I've had mine a bit over a year so far and it hasn't missed a beat. For anyone in the Pro Support program (as I suspect most owners of lenses at this level would be) I think it's not something to be particularly concerned about.
Silvan,

Thanks for that feedback. At this point I think that is my biggest concern. I take very good care of my glass but things do happen. Did have a tripod blow over years back when I had a Canon 70-200mm f/2.8L version 1 on it so I realize things happen. Lucky I was on the beach so the blow was a little less due to the sand but did have to spend real money to get lens fixed via Canon Professional Services. I am a member of the Sony Professional's group but have not required a repair yet.

Steve W
 

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