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Few notable former offerings I've either owned or extensively tested

PowerShot G1X II

Sony RX100 III (extensively tested)

G7X II (extensively tested)

EOS 5D III

EOS R

Nikon 1J3

EOS M3, M5, M50

PowerShot S110

Ratings based on vs other point and shoots...

I'll say a couple things out the gate: This is "the" point and shoot to own. Period. It's not exciting with a 24-72 reach f/4.5-9 equivalence. However, it has the sharpest zoom optic for a point and shoot, coupled with the most capable sensor in a point and shoot combined with a rugged body in a very compact form factor with a touch capable fully articulating screen and EVF.

Who this is not for: Sports, bird-ers, portrait shooters. For those look to offerings like the RX10 series/G3X series and G1XII or LX100 series respectively. Those offerings either have the reach, or equivalence for sports or portrait work (however the G1X III does decent portrait work due to sharpness which it trumps the G1X II and LX100 series on, easily, as well as autofocus for candids. It has better tones/colors than the G7X or RX100 series too in regards to candids, which matter, in addition to the sharpness). Not for lean budgets; look to G7X or older RX100 series for bang for buck.

Who this is for: Backup or secondary (fun) camera for pros. Single camera solution otherwise (I used the G1X III for nearly a whole year exclusively, and honestly, it didn't hold me back, except for reach). Hostile environments (to cameras).

Image Quality: This is where this guy delivers. Stunning landscapes. Appealing colors and tones. Quality (not quantity) bokeh. SHARP as a tack. Best in class, hands down. This is why pros will want this little gem for personal use. 5/5.

Autofocus: DPAF is best in class with on-chip phase detection. Only the highest end Sony RX series have this otherwise. However, compared to a high end full frame DSLR or mirrorless, it's got room for improvement. I have to give it 5/5 for kids/pets for what it is (as there isn't something better that's a true point and shoot) but AI-servo in particular should not be relied on. DIGIC8 G series Powershots coming shortly should improve in this area, but aren't out as of this review. Also, disable continuous autofocus which is on by default, although it speeds up autofocus it produces AFMA issues due to loose AF lock thresholds employed. This won't match a DSLR in some situations like tracking, but in others like low light, it'll defeat most APS-C DSLR's indoors due to it's modern sensor, DIGIC7 processor coupled with a f/2.8 lens on the wide end. Best AF of a Powershot. Video AF is class leading with DPAF obviously.

Low Light: Once again, most places where you're going to find low light will be indoors. I have to give this 4/5 because the G1X II in particular does reach and low light better. However in virtually all other circumstances the G1X III stands above the rest at it's widest focal length which will most often be employed in these circumstances. It's IQ will hold better then the although faster equivalence, but not as well performing ISO LX100 series, the RX100 series with both slower equivalence (on the wide end) and smaller sensor.

Landscapes: With it's sharp lens and wide lens and modern APS-C sensor, this is cream of the crop, no pun intended.

Macro: It's decent. Although it's not as close focusing as other's, due to the lenses sharpness, I might actually pretty strongly recommend it surprisingly.

Portraits: Due to it's class leading AF, colors and skin tones, coupled with although not best in class equivalence, very close leading though, I actually give this guy 4/5, if not 5/5 depending on what you're doing in a point and shoot. Although there are other offerings like the X100 series with much faster equivalence, they don't have reach.

Video: No, it doesn't do 4K. And that's perfectly fine. This is one of those cameras that exceeds it's spec sheet here. Due to it's 24-72 reach, IS with Digital IS, DPAF, Canon colors, built-in ND filter and fully articulating screen, this is actually a REALLY good video camera. I take more video with this then my EOS R, my former EOS M's, former Powershots. And guess what? The video is usually better on this due to that ND filter and the lens. Astonishing, I know. Blasphemy too coming from a full frame owner. It gives me the best video results at the end of the day of any camera I've owned. Probably will continue to I might add even when newer cameras come out, even with 4K. Without a fully articulating screen, ND-filter and as sharp of a lens, it's still going to win even as more of Canon's own G series get 4K.

Compared to...

RX100 series
: Formidable opponent. Cooler less true to life colors. Not as fun to use. Not as durable. Less sharp lens, touchscreen woes. If you're comparing a RX100 against the G1X III, forgive my bluntness, it's in the G7X class. The G1X III stands above it in both Canon's own marketing material and cost, for a reason. Only the RX100 VI would I say you should really consider, and consider it for reach. Apples to Apples, the RX100 V for example, only has size to it's advantage in my opinion, otherwise in use the G1X III defeats it considering it shares the same IQ of the RX100 III I've used in the past. 1" is 1" and APS-C is APS-C. It is that simple despite what online reviewers or others will tell you. And if not? Look at sample galleries, even DPR's own. Pretty obvious. You're comparing a 24MP APS-C against a 20MP 1". Softer lens, less resolution, less DR, less SNR. In a nutshell, less image quality, I'll just say it, on top of being less fun.

G7X/G5X Series: The sensible option. Much more bang for buck. More compact or more reach. Softer lens. No DPAF (for video). Not as good of skin tones. Not as good in low light. Not as good in landscapes. Not as good of autofocus. You do get what you pay for, and the G1X III is more expensive for a reason. But most folks, think G7X, RX100 or G5X, it's true. This is the middle of a curve, which encompasses the largest audience. But the G1X III, as I just mentioned bests it in all regards except reach. But, not by much.

LX100 Series: Probably the closest real competitor in a nutshell. 4/3 is a larger format than the 1"'s. Shows in image quality. But, it's still not APS-C. It's still contrast detection. It's not as rugged as many reports of dust in the lens. Doesn't have a fully articulating screen. The G1X III is still winning here in the image quality world, but the LX100 (II in particular) is very close.

G1X II: The III is better, across the board: IQ, Autofocus, video, size, etc etc etc. The G1X II however has the best lens for reach and low light. Period. If you're doing a lot of reach and low light, keep it, otherwise yes, the G1X III is an upgrade.

X100 Series: An alternative. Fixed lens though. Now we're talking APS-C though! And being a prime lens, this is the one camera that bests the G1X III in IQ, but once again, no zoom. It doesn't goes as wide making it less apt for landscapes and doesn't go as zoom for portraits. However, as an avid 35mm shooter myself, it's as I said, an alternative.

Leica Q or RX1 Series: Fixed lens. These are FF though, and it shows. But like the G1X III, I gather they are a best of the best for fixed lens in a point and shoot. However the price points do bring into question perhaps a EOS R, Nikon Z or Sony A7 with appropriate native mirrorless lens might've been smarter?

EOS M Series: By the same logic and hence the segue, the EOS M series is cheaper, can swap lenses and is APS-C and Canon DPAF at that for the newer offerings. This is arguably the G1X III's true enemy, if there is such a thing. But, an EOS M, is not as compact as a G1X III once a lens is attached, nor does it have a zoom lens that can match the equivalence or optical performance of the G1X III (f/2.8-5.6 vs f/3.5-6.3, does closer macro, smoother but not necessarily more bokeh, sharp vs the EF-M 15-45 or 18-150). I came from an EOS M5 to the G1X III as I wanted even more compact, with a general purpose zoom. But I think most people will probably land either on a G7X or EOS M offering that are considering the G1X III either due to price, size or lens swap considerations. Of note, the M system gets you really small, but not quite this small. It does matter. The G1X III won't get in the way of say vacation or an event, swapping lenses of an M, will. It's not as clear cut and dry of a choice in all honesty (M or G1X III) having owned both. Comes down to if you want lenses, or not when you travel.

Where the G1X III shines is for those already vested in say a full frame system that want a take it everywhere weapon. Those going on vacation. Family shooters (with lots of $$). You don't want to be lugging around optics for vacation, well some people do, sometimes I do. But I know it's wiser not to and to take the G1X III instead. Trust me, my wife's birthday, she hates the camera getting in the way, be it my R, or former Ms, I'll be bringing the G1X III to wine country, not the R.

Couple last thoughts:

Extra battery is smart.

Turn off continuous AF (if you didn't catch that tip) for best image quality

This has survived rain, sand and blows. It's tough. I do have Carepak on it, but have never used it.

The front dial is useless, in my book.

Panorama is useful though. I don't use it often enough.

I like the G1X III more than I did when I got it, always a good sign.

I switch screen names every now and again for various reasons, but here's a larger gallery I put up from it that's well rounded:

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/62253320
 
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Apologies, couple recycles here...

I could post endless samples, but I'm limiting myself to only 10.

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Excellent review & comparison. I’ve had the G1X III for over a year, but haven’t used it much. You’ve given some real motivation to use it more. Thanks!
 
Excellent
 
Nicely thorough review. I don’t have the wide-ranging experience with other cameras, but I can second everything else you’ve said. Especially the bit about it being even more fun to shoot now than when I first got it.
 
Great write-up, and samples. Thanks for sharing!

I especially like the photo of the boy on the tractor, it shows that the G1X III can do a bit of portraiture, in the right conditions.
 
Apologies, couple recycles here...

I could post endless samples, but I'm limiting myself to only 10.
Thx for that lightgreen. Your pictures are great, as usual.

It has been on my purchase list forever & a day. Never actually bought it caus I was afraid of:

- The strange swivelling video people screen (not for street shooters)

- The poor low light performance (thats where big sensors come into their own, right?) See how a Fuji XF10 compares with the G1XM3 @ iso 12800 on DPR's tool....

- The short battery life (no, i refuse to buy extra)

But it remains a very tempting little beast for many reasons :-)
 
Great write-up, and samples. Thanks for sharing!

I especially like the photo of the boy on the tractor, it shows that the G1X III can do a bit of portraiture, in the right conditions.
Honestly, makes better portraits than my former G1X II, even though I ranked this 4/5 for that due to offerings like the LX100 and G1X II's better equivalence, the truth is, you need something with fast AF and a sharp lens too, not just equivalence.

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Apologies, couple recycles here...

I could post endless samples, but I'm limiting myself to only 10.
Thx for that lightgreen. Your pictures are great, as usual.
Actually LR was my second handle. TTH was my first. I made the mistake of having the mods scrub my account which removed all posts when I ditched that one. However, during that phase in time I was EOS M3 and thus antsy for an upgrade. Most posts revolved around regurgitated specs, patents, etc, not many samples as I was shy sharing back then. Not much lost, but it's hard finding some of the stuff I dug up these days.
It has been on my purchase list forever & a day. Never actually bought it caus I was afraid of:

- The strange swivelling video people screen (not for street shooters)

- The poor low light performance (thats where big sensors come into their own, right?) See how a Fuji XF10 compares with the G1XM3 @ iso 12800 on DPR's tool....
Yes, the Fuji has a newer sensor, coupled with a prime which I'm guessing is an "honest" f/2.8 vs the G1X III's f/2.8 may in fact be say, f/3.1 (which perhaps should be f/3.2 but marketing fudged a bit I'm sure)? Happens. That's why we have tools to show when folks are stretching/bending the numbers like DPR's studio scene and DXO Mark results, if you believe them (I believe the raw metrics, but not their overall scoring system).

That Fuji has no zoom though and that Sony RX100 V is (still) getting beat at ISO 12800 in RAW and especially JPEG, which means it is likely employing RAW noise reduction which impacts the JPEGs (or your RAW processor of choice) ability to ultimately resolve detail (ha-ha, you can cheat, but you get caught eventually).

APS-C is still APS-C.
- The short battery life (no, i refuse to buy extra)
That's a price you pay for the very small form factor. I do get around 400-500 shots myself which greatly exceeds the CIPA. It's enough for me to wander out without a spare if I have a full charge or if it's a short outing. But anything full day, I have a topped off spare in the pocket. I don't find it a show stopper, but, I can understand if others do.
But it remains a very tempting little beast for many reasons :-)
 
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An excellent review. I also own this camera. I agree with everything that you have said. I would like to add the phenomenally good fill flash ability that the camera has. On trips overseas I like to take pix of my wife or others in front of landmarks. The ability to shoot flash shots at (say) 1/1500 second makes balancing faces and background so easy. It gets rid of harsh shadow on the face as well. Small SLRs like the Canon M series or a small Olympus are just not in the hunt with their slow max flash sync.

I have owned a Fuji X series and a Sony RX100 series camera. For the reasons you state, they are inferior to the Canon. The Panasonic LX100 II, while appealing with its large sensor and fast lens, does not have a flash. So it is not in the same ballpark as the Canon. Carrying a separate flash is not acceptable for me.
 
That's another yes, the flash on the G1X III due to it's 1/2000 capability, actually gets use. I'm not a flash person and this is a flash I'll use, usually for fill, even though I'm a traditional ambient light shooter.
 
Great update. I recently got this camera and wondered if you'd care to share your custom settings, particularly for Portraits and Landscapes?

Thanks in advance
I've been maturing in that regard. I've really played with custom picture profiles in the past, however, I've found it's a delicate science.

Couple tips regarding colors and the G1X III:

The AWB does sometimes favor a bit too warm on occasion outdoors near golden hour;


The above sample I had to correct manually and actually is a re-do in Post from my former Portrait sample of the same shot above if you want to compare.


It was way to warm with AWB. Canon's usually good in this regard, but Golden hour and the G1X III needs special attention to get the most out of, being picky here, but then again most folks shooting the G1X III are likely astute in that regard.

Color temperature is useful here to remedy. This is one of the few things I wish Canon had waited 6 months for releasing the G1X III for so it would get the newer DIGIC8. At least we have something to look forward to assuming Canon continues the G1X series in the future...

I usually start with the default standard, and for portraits, I'll either end up with Landscape, Fine detail or Portrait, in that order. If you're a DPP4 user, +0.5 saturation in either Standard or Fine Detail is sometimes of use. -1 Color Tone in Standard or Fine Detail either by itself or in addition to +0.5 Saturation in DPP4 (as the camera only does whole value IE +1, +2, etc) works well.

I've found the G1X III and LR CC are friends vs my R and LR CC are not friends. I don't use LR (CC or otherwise) anymore, but for those that do, it works well, that is the both the Standard Adobe profiles and their, Canon, profiles at least for this camera. I steer clear of renting software though these days, and specifically Adobe.

Portrait often desaturates a bit too much, you can try Canon's own Snapshot Portrait and Studio Portrait. I prefer the former. Oh, Autumn Hues, that, gets some use.

Bottom line, there is no one size fits all. I'd say shoot RAW, and if you have a favorite, tweak it. Special emphasis on Landscape, and Autumn Hues, they work well as does Fine Detail. Don't be shy on trying +1 Saturation or +/- 1 Contrast either. Here's an example where I kept Fine Detail + 1 Saturation, bit of creative license though but that's part of the fun sometimes:


Landscape, fine Detail and Autumn hues will duke it out for Landscapes...


That was either Landscape or Fine Detail. Landscape gives emphasis to Blues and Green which you'll often find in Nature and skies, it also changes the contrast curves a bit.

I'm working on updating my Flickr Albums with new content for purposes of demo/samples for folks. My G1X III album has been seeing some love lately if you're interested...

https://www.flickr.com/photos/130836605@N07/albums/72157668971759307
 
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As an ex G1X I and II owner I think the G!X III is probably in its own sphere is a truly excellent camera but aimed at a different user type to the previous long reach fast lens camera. It probably suffered as badly as any camera would with the same name but a markedly different functionality and target market.
 
As an ex G1X I and II owner I think the G!X III is probably in its own sphere is a truly excellent camera but aimed at a different user type to the previous long reach fast lens camera. It probably suffered as badly as any camera would with the same name but a markedly different functionality and target market.
No, it's aimed at the same user. However, to your point, has morphed to prioritize size and optical performance over operational specs. Having owned the G1X II, the optical performance was a concern, which the G1X III addressed. Size was not, but, for other folks it possibly was.

It's (G1X III) still a one-of-a-kind between APS-C plus zoom plus point-and-shoot. My biggest gripe is it doesn't have DIGIC8 ironically.

Also, the G1X II itself, if it had a newer DIGIC would perform much better; although it's optics operationally were top-notch, the optical quality wasn't, but it was the metering and RAW FPS mixed with poor sensor performance that did it in for me. Had a more capable DIGIC like say DIGIC7 been present to improve the FPS in RAW, and metering, I'd be a happy camper.

The results from my G1X II, when they were in focus, and with LR processed were decent (which proves with correct metering it could really deliver)...

https://flic.kr/s/aHsmE2b1VF

DIGIC7 improved both metering, AWB and AF performance, all of which although they wouldn't have cured the 12MP 1.5" sensor woes, would've helped it sing. Alas...

I really hope Canon gives the G1X another shot myself. The market is pretty small though (for them to spend more $$ on) and am grateful to have the G1X III in any event. But, here's to hoping Canon gives us a G1X IV that has the operational specs of the G1X II, with the optical performance of the G1X III and some updates... I'd buy it.
 
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I completely concur with RLight's review. I've been using mine along side my 5D4, 80D kit and L zooms and this little jewell really competes for IQ. We're just back from a small boat SE Alaska cruise, Juno to Sitka. Because of the possibility of whale, bear and other wildlife sightings, I had the 100-400 on my 5D most of the time and relied on my G1X3 for the landscape, people, and misc shots. The G's raw images processed beautifully and stood up well to the light, shadow, and dehaze treatment in post. The atmosphere was hazy, often dark and misty and the G's images cleaned up to produce blue sky detailed landscapes of the snowy mountains and dark forests. The G's excellent dynamic range proved itself in this high contrast environment. I even got to use its underwater housing for a very drizzly hike in the rain forest. The detail and colors rival what I get from my 24-105 and 24-70 L zooms. Its certainly earned a respected place in my kit.
 
Also, the G1X II itself, if it had a newer DIGIC would perform much better; although it's optics operationally were top-notch, the optical quality wasn't, but it was the metering and RAW FPS mixed with poor sensor performance that did it in for me. Had a more capable DIGIC like say DIGIC7 been present to improve the FPS in RAW, and metering, I'd be a happy camper.
The G1XII was a great concept with a poor sensor and slow processor. Too bad Canon didn't try to improve both before abandoning it. Oh and yes, the design was pretty bad (did they have a Russian designer?)
 

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