Worms 3

This was a quick edit but the tripod was on the road ,just to see if any softness could be down to movement due to the high wind

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That’s pretty bad too. If that was my lens, I would not be happy. At all.
I agree with Erik...and I have been watching this thread since the initial post. I had thought that perhaps the OP wasn't focusing correctly in the early images, but it would seem to be a lens issue based on what I have seen.
 
This was a quick edit but the tripod was on the road ,just to see if any softness could be down to movement due to the high wind

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That’s pretty bad too. If that was my lens, I would not be happy. At all.
I think it's a bit early to draw conclusions about the lens. IMHO the shutter speed is way too low, the light levels are too low, and in this last photo there is significant light pollution from the side. If it was my lens, for the sake of my emotional health, I would go outside in a similar area in full sun during midday and shoot with the sun behind the lens first, manual focus on hyperfocal distance, on tripod, OIS off, f8, 1/500 or faster shutter, RAW, and edit in iridient or ADOBE with enhance details.

Personally, my IQ hit rate with landscapes is quite low. It is just not that easy to get everything in sharp focus, with no wind and in good light, and a lot of factors affect the image. I sure had worse results than these from a perfectly good 18-55 if I set up something wrong or the environment was not helping. Also fujis are not really easily landscape cameras.
With good lenses, Fujis are fine landscape cameras. Look at the detail midway up the right side, there is plenty of stationary detail to observe... and it’s all mush. This image could be sharpened a lot better, but there’s no fixing that, I’ve seen sharper soda bottles. By all means, do some more controlled tests, but that lens almost certainly has issues. 10-24s are typically much better than that.
 
You may well be right, and I stated earlier that the mushiness is too high. As to the stationary detail, the blur can come from nonstationary camera. This can happen on a tripod too, with wind or with shutter press.
 
You may well be right, and I stated earlier that the mushiness is too high. As to the stationary detail, the blur can come from nonstationary camera. This can happen on a tripod too, with wind or with shutter press.
The picture to me looks like a nonstationary camera. There is a lot of blur all over the picture. If not, your lens has serious issues. The first 2 pictures with a 10 sec shutter speed can easily look mushy when it's windy outside. Not only your tripod can easily become nonstationary, but also trees and leafs move a lot because of the wind and can cause blur.

I would retry, as mentioned by others, in good light with a lot faster shutter speed.
 
You may well be right, and I stated earlier that the mushiness is too high. As to the stationary detail, the blur can come from nonstationary camera. This can happen on a tripod too, with wind or with shutter press.
The picture to me looks like a nonstationary camera. There is a lot of blur all over the picture. If not, your lens has serious issues. The first 2 pictures with a 10 sec shutter speed can easily look mushy when it's windy outside. Not only your tripod can easily become nonstationary, but also trees and leafs move a lot because of the wind and can cause blur.

I would retry, as mentioned by others, in good light with a lot faster shutter speed.
Just want to second everything Erwin said here. Your lens isn't necessarily bad, and wind plus 10 second exposure is absolutely going to result in soft images.
 
You may well be right, and I stated earlier that the mushiness is too high. As to the stationary detail, the blur can come from nonstationary camera. This can happen on a tripod too, with wind or with shutter press.
The picture to me looks like a nonstationary camera. There is a lot of blur all over the picture. If not, your lens has serious issues. The first 2 pictures with a 10 sec shutter speed can easily look mushy when it's windy outside. Not only your tripod can easily become nonstationary, but also trees and leafs move a lot because of the wind and can cause blur.

I would retry, as mentioned by others, in good light with a lot faster shutter speed.
Just want to second everything Erwin said here. Your lens isn't necessarily bad, and wind plus 10 second exposure is absolutely going to result in soft images.
I don’t know, to my eye some areas of the image seem far worse than others. The camera was on a tripod, correct? This last image was shot at 1/50”, just how windy was it anyway? I’m be very interested in what further tests reveal. I really want a good 10-24 and it has been in my cart a number of times, but every time I’m about to buy it I see a bunch of mushy images that shouldn’t be and out of the cart it comes again.
 
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You may well be right, and I stated earlier that the mushiness is too high. As to the stationary detail, the blur can come from nonstationary camera. This can happen on a tripod too, with wind or with shutter press.
The picture to me looks like a nonstationary camera. There is a lot of blur all over the picture. If not, your lens has serious issues. The first 2 pictures with a 10 sec shutter speed can easily look mushy when it's windy outside. Not only your tripod can easily become nonstationary, but also trees and leafs move a lot because of the wind and can cause blur.

I would retry, as mentioned by others, in good light with a lot faster shutter speed.
Just want to second everything Erwin said here. Your lens isn't necessarily bad, and wind plus 10 second exposure is absolutely going to result in soft images.
I don’t know, to my eye some areas of the image seem far worse than others. The camera was on a tripod, correct? This last image was shot at 1/50”, just how windy was it anyway? I’m be very interested in what further tests reveal. I really want a good 10-24 and it has been in my cart a number of times, but every time I’m about to buy it I see a bunch of mushy images that shouldn’t be and out of the cart it comes again.
The wind was very strong and on the first two images the ground was soft so when the chance arrives and I get a day with no wind I will try to put into practice all the good advice people have taken the time to impart and I will get an answer to the sharpness question .
 
This was a quick edit but the tripod was on the road ,just to see if any softness could be down to movement due to the high wind

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That’s pretty bad too. If that was my lens, I would not be happy. At all.
I agree with Erik...and I have been watching this thread since the initial post. I had thought that perhaps the OP wasn't focusing correctly in the early images, but it would seem to be a lens issue based on what I have seen.
The lens is worse than any kit lens on the market.
 
The pixel level detail looks very mushy. Why is it so? Looks like super high noise reduction to me. Is it the 10-24? I have not had this impression with a 18-55 at base ISO in landscape shots...
Noise reduction is very low ,may have a problem with the lens
Your copy seems to be softer near the edges than mine. But there is an issue here with softness of the image in general. Processed in Lightroom?
 
Was it on a tripod? OIS off?
Yes ,made that mistake before ,although in the wind it would have been better to be on
If there is wind I would not go below 1/250s. There is no wonder that there is no detail because the grass and branches are moving during the exposure.
 
This looks like a sunrise, but you live in the UK and time is 18:32 GMT so it must be a sunset. I tried increasing red saturation, which oddly enough makes it seem sharper. Maybe you got a break in the wind because the trees on the right don't show motion blur that I notice. Nor do I see worms, but that's a subject line that attracts attention in this forum. Lovely image!

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Feel like I am getting somewhere now, very frustrated that the weather is not playing ball, both shots were on the ten second timer in high wind, small amount of sharpening and noise reduction added everything else is the same as before.

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This looks like a sunrise, but you live in the UK and time is 18:32 GMT so it must be a sunset. I tried increasing red saturation, which oddly enough makes it seem sharper. Maybe you got a break in the wind because the trees on the right don't show motion blur that I notice. Nor do I see worms, but that's a subject line that attracts attention in this forum. Lovely image!

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Feel like I am getting somewhere now, very frustrated that the weather is not playing ball, both shots were on the ten second timer in high wind, small amount of sharpening and noise reduction added everything else is the same as before.

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Thank you

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Trying to capture the images i see around me.
 
Was it on a tripod? OIS off?
Yes ,made that mistake before ,although in the wind it would have been better to be on
If there is wind I would not go below 1/250s. There is no wonder that there is no detail because the grass and branches are moving during the exposure.
Spot on finally nail this issue of sharpness I need good light solid ground and no wind while using the timer oh yes with a fast shutter speed hopefully will get these conditions together on or before the weekend
The only thing you need is a shutter speed that is fast enough to freeze the motion of the subject. The last couple of years I never used a tripod or the timer. I just make sure that the shutter speed is fast enough to avoid subject movement or camera shake. It's not rocket science to get sharp images with that lens.

If the images are still not sharp I would have the lens checked.
 
I second that^. At ISO 80 you loose dynamic range, because it is an extended ISO value.

In the second shot, it looks like you have your focus on the foreground, by the focus transition along the right bank of the river.
No, absolutely wrong.

Same DR.

Besides extended ISO allows to do what is called ETTR.
 
I second that^. At ISO 80 you loose dynamic range, because it is an extended ISO value.

In the second shot, it looks like you have your focus on the foreground, by the focus transition along the right bank of the river.
No, absolutely wrong.
care to back up this statement?
Same DR.

Besides extended ISO allows to do what is called ETTR.
ETTR stands for expose to the right, I know it (hint - everybody know it :). I can expose to the right of the histogram at any ISO, am I doing it wrong?

If anything, OP is struggling with low shutter speeds in this thread, so to ETTR he should bring up ISO to native 160 to up the shutter speed one stop. The advice given is correct, not wrong.
 
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The photo itself isnt too sharp, but these are worm effects





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I would recommend you do some controlled testing with a lens chart or brick wall or similar, to try and remove some variables.

However, the 10-24 is much sharper than these images suggest. Although there are some plausible explanations for why that might be in this thread, I'm not sure they're quite enough to explain the general blurriness that you're seeing in these photographs.
 

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