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Where is the E-M5 III???
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i don't know what others think but to me a camerawithout body IS is not a competitor
same for A6400
ignore lens, just compare body, A6400 even better than XT-30 but i want Olympus IS
doady
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So the E-M5 line is dead even though new copies of E-M5 II are still widely available in stores. Yeah, that makes sense.
By then the E-M1 II should be about $1399 as its being artificially kept at $1699. Proof of this is that you can get the E-M1 II + 12-40 PRO for $1998.
Something's gotta give.
And that's pretty much the key to this thread, we don't see how Olympus is going to successfully spec, price and sell the 'not yet seen or heard about' E-M5 III
Mark Ransom
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Just as good is the deal on the E-M5 II with 14-150 for $1000 - they've been running that even longer.
The only thing to remember is that if you don't cannibalize your own sales, someone else will do it to you.
DiffractionLtd
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No IBIS, no deal. Pass.
brentbrent
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I dunno, there was a lot of speculation after announcement of the S1 and S1R that Panasonic might be getting out of the Micro Four Thirds market, but if you compare the camera releases by the two companies over the past 2+ years, perhaps the speculation should be whether Olympus is getting out of the camera market altogether. ;-)
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G Rash
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Not necessarily huge and expensive if you mostly shoot wide to short telephoto. I use the Rokinon 24mm f/2.8 and 35mm f/2.8, the Sony 50mm f/1.8 and 85mm f/1.8 and the Rokinon 135mm f/2. The 135 is huge, but not expensive and is very sharp. The Sony 85 is a very good lens, and neither huge nor expensive. The Rokinons are tiny and inexpensive, and the 35 is very good while the 24 is fair. The Sony 50 is isn't bad, particularly considering the price, but its AF is speed reflects its low price. I also have used the Canon 40mm pancake with an adapter and it is very good, tiny and all of $140 dollars.
So I certainly wouldn't say that "all" FF lenses are huge and expensive.
As for the EM5 and Pen F, I am hoping that Oly will update both. I sold my EM5ii and replaced it with the Pen F. Both are good cameras. Both need updating with the sensor from the EM1ii with PDAF. Either body with that sensor would be appealing to me.
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silentstorm
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And ditto to m43, problem is with the bodies.
I waited for a long time and then a G9 came along, a GH5 and then a GH5s. I looked at the options at that time including the EM1.2 and realized m43 has become huge and heavy and expensive. I don't want another minor improvement 16mp m43 camera, I already have a GF7.
Lenses I have are the Loxia 21mm Zeiss lens, tiny and light. 24-240mm for travelling. Recently bought the heavier weight 24-70GM and the 70-300G lenses. Excellent lenses except for that 10x zoom, I found it to be okayish only.
Very happy with the current setup and very satisfied with the image quality.
The latest EM1x is even heavier and more expensive. Good thing I didn't continue to wait. My current equip has gone a few trips with thousands more memories captured. Life is short.
keepfocused
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If I were a new buyer I think I would forgo those for better IQ/jpeg colour from the Fuji and probability of improvements with FW at a far lower price.I think the EM5iii (if it comes) would need to be priced similar to X-T30 to compete in sales to new buyers.
That result is the problem with the argument that an EM5.3 would cannibalize EM1.2 sales.
Sergey Borachev
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Olympus is letting others cannibalise its midrange, PEN or E-M5 lines, to protect its niche flagship. Apparently it just want to sell A9 like sports cameras. Canon RP, Fuji X-T30, X-T3, Sony A6400, Sony A7 III can all be bought for under $2000.
It does not make any sense, going after the top dollar and niche product with a small sensor. When things make little sense, then it means just one thing. Trouble or danger.
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There is now a report saying Olympus has confirmed that the E-M5 line is still alive. So we should see the E-M5 III some time. The question is when? And the above question remains:
Where is it?
Will it arrive this year? or is Olympus happy to let the Fuji X-T30, the X-T3, Sony A6400, and Canon RP get all the money still in the shrinking market. Any Olympus users buying those cameras probably means they are unlikely to come back, having upgraded to a larger format. If this E-M5 arrives only at end of the year, we might even see the A7 III also dropping to that level, $1500, and the A7II to $1300, due to the A7 IV. This is hopeless, if there is still nothing soon.
Where is it?
Will it arrive this year? or is Olympus happy to let the Fuji X-T30, the X-T3, Sony A6400, and Canon RP get all the money still in the shrinking market. Any Olympus users buying those cameras probably means they are unlikely to come back, having upgraded to a larger format. If this E-M5 arrives only at end of the year, we might even see the A7 III also dropping to that level, $1500, and the A7II to $1300, due to the A7 IV. This is hopeless, if there is still nothing soon.
silentstorm
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My take would be the EM5.3 will be too late too little. Like you said, people buying the XT30 or the 6400 now is not going to come back to olympus soon. Also the Canon RP, Nikon Z6 and Sony A7.3 are gaining traction.
I'm not holding my breath that Oly will do well with the EM1x either.
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I think you might be right. It seems like Olympus may have got their priorities wrong. The EM5 III should be the camera coming out now instead of the M1-X. It will also need to stand out amongst the competition and perform at their level not just an incremental change.
Yep.
I think they will do well, it’s a very specialized tool and the potential customers for it should be able to easily identify the advantages.
Sergey Borachev
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Still a slim chance that Olympus will redeem itself. A $1200 E-M5 III with a brand new sensor and PDAF should do it for the faithful and stop the exodus.
Maybe a 20 mp sensor, but doubt PDAF
Sergey Borachev
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If that's all Olympus can do, ie just a 20 MP sensor, they can keep it. Or they can stick it in the next E-M10.
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agree
5 years wait and just minor sensor upgrade for $1200?
if no PDAF than forget it
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