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Which was cracked within days of Windows XP coming out, dont think that will really stop illegal copies of Photo shop CS. Not condoning use of illegal software just an observation.
Greg M said:
Stefan Schott said:
Greg M said:
They can keep their Microsoftish activation and the PITA that it
causes for me.
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Could you shed some light on this, please?

Thanks.
Stefan
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Daniel Clune said:
Which was cracked within days of Windows XP coming out
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The same will happen here. Always has, always will. They just gotta learn that customer satisfaction needs to come first, before all other considerations. I second Greg M, I will not purchase any software that requires activation, no exceptions. I also wrote a hefty message to Adobe via their feedback form, leaving no room for interpretation as to what I think about their activation policy. I encourage everyone to do the same, this may actually have an effect.

Thanks, Greg, for bringing this to our attention and shame on dpreview for not mentioning it in their review as of today.

Greetings
Stefan
 
Stefan Schott said:
Daniel Clune said:
Which was cracked within days of Windows XP coming out
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The same will happen here. Always has, always will. They just gotta
learn that customer satisfaction needs to come first, before all
other considerations. I second Greg M, I will not purchase any
software that requires activation, no exceptions. I also wrote a
hefty message to Adobe via their feedback form, leaving no room for
interpretation as to what I think about their activation policy. I
encourage everyone to do the same, this may actually have an effect.
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I already have my preorder in and on file. Can't wait to go through the activation process:-)

What's the big deal about activating software? They spend the hundreds of millions (US) to develop the software, so what's so unreasonable about an activation process? You do lock your motorcycle, don't you and you'd get really, really ticked if someone swiped it wouldn't you?

Just an observations:-)

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It seems to me the added features far outweigh the 3 minutes (if that) I'll have to spend activating it. I think the majority of users won't have a problem with this (I replaced my system once since version 7 came out). I'm starting to get used to it with Microsoft XP, Office, Capture 1 and a few others. Of course a crack will be available before long but what I think Adobe is trying to do is cut down on the "casual" installer who buys a copy for a system at the office and decides to loan it to everyone in the office so they can install it on their systems too- many of those people won't bother hunting for a crack. I don't love the idea of activation but for me (and most users) it's not a deal breaker.

Guy
Greg M said:
They can keep their Microsoftish activation and the PITA that it
causes for me. I'll spend my money somewhere else.

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Tell me where to respond in kind!

Thanks!
Stefan Schott said:
Daniel Clune said:
Which was cracked within days of Windows XP coming out
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The same will happen here. Always has, always will. They just gotta
learn that customer satisfaction needs to come first, before all
other considerations. I second Greg M, I will not purchase any
software that requires activation, no exceptions. I also wrote a
hefty message to Adobe via their feedback form, leaving no room for
interpretation as to what I think about their activation policy. I
encourage everyone to do the same, this may actually have an effect.

Thanks, Greg, for bringing this to our attention and shame on
dpreview for not mentioning it in their review as of today.

Greetings
Stefan
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For me it's a huge deal...I have a dedicated Photoshop system that I built myself...it does not have a modem nor a NIC card...How the heck am I supposed to upgrade that machine...I will not install either one...Adobe has to have a solution for that...if not...I will hunt down the krack on the net and I will use it...

Carlos
Thomas Gardner said:
What's the big deal about activating software? They spend the
hundreds of millions (US) to develop the software, so what's so
unreasonable about an activation process? You do lock your
motorcycle, don't you and you'd get really, really ticked if
someone swiped it wouldn't you?

Just an observations:-)

--
If you don't want to believe me, ignore me:-)
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C.A.S. said:
For me it's a huge deal...I have a dedicated Photoshop system that
I built myself...it does not have a modem nor a NIC card...How the
heck am I supposed to upgrade that machine...I will not install
either one...Adobe has to have a solution for that...if not...I
will hunt down the krack on the net and I will use it...
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Bet they'll have an activation code they can give you over the phone. I'm sure a company with as many smart people as Adobe, has already had this discussion, many times.

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I've been advocating this sort of protection for 15 years now.

I'm sorry, every company I have worked for in the last 12 years have all used unlicensed OS and Office software. I'm not kidding. It would be nice to be able to take that office copy of ps and practice on it at home. The software publishers need to protect themselves. It's only fair.

Software publishers are only going back to how things were in the early 80's Following the high rate of failures of 30MB hard drives on early IBM AT's pressure mounted on publishers to remove protection and there followed a trend where large publishers began publishing software without protection, bowing to corporate pressure. Now that reliability is all but assured and realizes the massive losses these same publishers have had due to piracy, casual copying and the like, it's understandable for publisher's to attempt to reassert their rights in this regard. Photoshop CS represents a great value for money and I just don't see the sense in claiming that some will abandon the product because of the activation procedure.

I've read the Adobe faq on this procedure and don't find a problem with it at all. Photoshop is one product worth paying for. Heh, thank your lucky stars it's not Quark Xpress, who have never had upgrades as cheap as what is paid for Abobe products.

Ian
 
Wouldn't that defeat the purpose of the whole "phone-home" activation...what prevents someone from using that activation code on several computers...

You see, my PC does not have a MAC address, which is what most software companies use to identify a PC...kinda like a fingerprint...There is absolutely no SN# or any type of numbers to distinguish my PC from any other one...

Carlos
Thomas Gardner said:
C.A.S. said:
For me it's a huge deal...I have a dedicated Photoshop system that
I built myself...it does not have a modem nor a NIC card...How the
heck am I supposed to upgrade that machine...I will not install
either one...Adobe has to have a solution for that...if not...I
will hunt down the krack on the net and I will use it...
Click to expand...
Bet they'll have an activation code they can give you over the
phone. I'm sure a company with as many smart people as Adobe, has
already had this discussion, many times.

--
If you don't want to believe me, ignore me:-)
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Sorry, for the few minutes it will take to activate, I'm going to go for it.

I have no problem with vendors protecting their IP. I live in a region where you can buy PS7 for about $6 (it may or may not work of course) which is why Adobe has to do this sort of thing.

Cheers
Greg M said:
They can keep their Microsoftish activation and the PITA that it
causes for me. I'll spend my money somewhere else.

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http://www.mocanu.com/gallery/index.php
http://dslr.mocanu.com
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Iam,

I have a big deal for you...I have a dedicated Photoshop system that I built myself...it does not have a modem nor a NIC card...How the heck am I supposed to install that machine...I cannot activae on the phone or internet and PC does not have a MAC address, which is what most software companies use to identify a PC...kinda like a fingerprint...There is absolutely no SN# or any type of numbers to distinguish my PC from any other one...

Carlos
Ian Y?tes said:
I've been advocating this sort of protection for 15 years now.
I'm sorry, every company I have worked for in the last 12 years
have all used unlicensed OS and Office software. I'm not kidding.
It would be nice to be able to take that office copy of ps and
practice on it at home. The software publishers need to protect
themselves. It's only fair.

Software publishers are only going back to how things were in the
early 80's Following the high rate of failures of 30MB hard
drives on early IBM AT's pressure mounted on publishers to remove
protection and there followed a trend where large publishers began
publishing software without protection, bowing to corporate
pressure. Now that reliability is all but assured and realizes the
massive losses these same publishers have had due to piracy, casual
copying and the like, it's understandable for publisher's to
attempt to reassert their rights in this regard. Photoshop CS
represents a great value for money and I just don't see the sense
in claiming that some will abandon the product because of the
activation procedure.

I've read the Adobe faq on this procedure and don't find a problem
with it at all. Photoshop is one product worth paying for. Heh,
thank your lucky stars it's not Quark Xpress, who have never had
upgrades as cheap as what is paid for Abobe products.

Ian
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Ian Yаtes said:
It's only fair.
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It's not. They have no right to force this upon us. It's stupid. It's futile. It's annoying. It's troublesome, complicated and time-consuming. There are huge privacy issues involved. I will not subscibe to it.
Ian Yаtes said:
thank your lucky stars it's not Quark Xpress,
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I have never purchased Quark for that very reason.

Regards
Stefan
 
Thomas Gardner said:
You do lock your
motorcycle, don't you and you'd get really, really ticked if
someone swiped it wouldn't you?
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If I had just paid for my motorbike and wanted to drive away and the thing wouldn't start upon inserting the key and instead would have displayed a message in the speedo-display "activation required" I would have turned around and ripped the dealer's head off right on the spot.

Greetings
Stefan
 
Usually, it is a challenge response type system. The program pops up a dialog with a very long number that uniquely identifies your system. You then call a 1-800 number and type the thing on your screen into the phone. It reads back another long number and you type that into your computer. It activates. The whole thing is usually automated. (And the user experience is usually completely horrible. Partially 'cause almost noone int he U.S. market uses it anyway.)

It is unlikely Adobe developed this stuff in house by the way. Most of the major software vendors are licensing the activation technology from a thirdparty.

-Z-
C.A.S. said:
You see, my PC does not have a MAC address, which is what most
software companies use to identify a PC...kinda like a
fingerprint...There is absolutely no SN# or any type of numbers to
distinguish my PC from any other one...

Carlos
Thomas Gardner said:
C.A.S. said:
For me it's a huge deal...I have a dedicated Photoshop system that
I built myself...it does not have a modem nor a NIC card...How the
heck am I supposed to upgrade that machine...I will not install
either one...Adobe has to have a solution for that...if not...I
will hunt down the krack on the net and I will use it...
Click to expand...
Bet they'll have an activation code they can give you over the
phone. I'm sure a company with as many smart people as Adobe, has
already had this discussion, many times.

--
If you don't want to believe me, ignore me:-)
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Stefan Schott said:
It's not. They have no right to force this upon us. It's stupid.
It's futile. It's annoying. It's troublesome, complicated and
time-consuming. There are huge privacy issues involved. I will not
subscibe to it.
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They have the right to do it and you have the right not to buy it. I haven't read about the new procedure but I don't expect I will have a problem with it. It would have to be pretty draconian for me to want to miss out on the new features.

Rick
 
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