CarmelSoul
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No need to, Ken Rockwell is already gushing all over it.
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If the sensor is the 6D II's, it actually has worse DR than any modern MFT camera according to DXO, even the ones using the 16MP Panasonic or Sony sensors. Rated at 11.9 EVs, even a E-PM2/E-M5 from 2012 with the first generation Sony IMX109 16MP sensor beats it at 12.2-12.3.
https://www.dxomark.com/Cameras/Canon/EOS-6D-Mark-II
https://www.dxomark.com/cameras/lau...Options=false&viewMode=list&yDataType=rankDyn
Cameras with the newer 20MP sensors like the GH5 can get to 13 EVs or close.
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Photo Pete
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Why bring G9 into the discussion?
Not much you can say, obviously.
As a multibrand photographer, I have been "happily " using MFT gear, including G9, without making (snide) references to any other products.
Panasonic and Olympus must watch out. They are pricing themselves out of the market. Bigger, heavier and more expensive products are not the way to go!
I have the 6D which has a sensor that has a few less MP (20 vs 26) and a tiny bit (0.25 stop) more DR at base. The 6D is still in todays market a very fine image maker. The 6D II sensor which is in the RP, is certainly not state of the art, but unless you go around pushing shadows 5 stops all the time it is capable of fine images and way ahead of any crop sensor.
I own a G9 and while time and tech have let it get closer to the 6D there is still a big gap.
The RP is really meant for people like myself with a lot of EF lenses that want mirrorless and don't have unlimited funds. Despite the old sensor, I guarantee if I put my L series lenses on it, the camera will produce photos that will exceed any crop sensor setup no matter what the camera and lens are.
In many ways this camera is sort of a place holder. If you have a large EF collection and limited funds you can use them on a pretty good mirrorless camera now and most likely in a couple of years you'll upgrade the camera while you hold onto those great lenses until you die.
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I found this very interesting post from Ian in a another forum. The weight and costs are interesting .......
"Nikon kit:
- D500 - $1800
- 500/5.6 PF - $3600
- Combined Weight - 2,320g
- Combined Cost - $5,400
- E-M1X - $3,000
- 300/4 PRO - $2,500
- MC-14 - $350
- Combined Weight - 2,472g - 2,642g
- Combined Cost - $5,500 - $5,850"
When you say the the Canon 500 F/4.5 EF, I hope you mean the F/4. The very first EF 500 F/4.5L is not a good idea, no longer parts available for that. It was basically an FD 500 F/4.5L rushed into an AF model at the time.
The EF 500 F/4L is a different kettle of AF tele. The new versions are fantastic.
All the best your way.
Danny.
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Wu Jiaqiu
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indeed that canon model is a bit more expensive and good to know, right now i am still shooting my clunkers whilst the camera turmoil abates a little....well i will be once the weather improves and a certain security risk i can't mention lessens...
The birds however are showing up, cormorant flew over the house today and i watched a nice woodpecker bashing it's head against a branch, i can hear the Buzzards soaring and a watched a hawk hunting.....no camera with me though
Even had a European green woodpecker on the lawn about 5 meters from where i am sitting writing this, if the weather is good tomorrow i'll pop out and try and get some geese stretching their wings
Yep. They won't make a lot of money when you buy an RP, but they won't lose a customer to another company.
The wild card is how well the EF lenses work and balance on the RP.
The division of Sony that makes the cameras and the sensors are now two separate holding companies. What this means, is that while they are still owned by Sony corporation they are to be operated independently with the sole purpose of maximizing profit. The heads of these companies will be judged on how much profit they will make. Do you really think the head of Sony sensor division is going to continue to invest tons of money to develop sensors for a dieing ILC market? if you do it is wishful thinking on your part. Where is the replacement for the A7SII, the a6500? It is not coincidence that they are not here yet. Sony is not going to be innovating anymore because it is not profitable.
James Stirling
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Looking at actual shots those m43 numbers are optimistic at their respective base ISO settings the 6DII sensor seems at least as good as any m43 pushed 3 stops . In fact it looks a bit sharper any more than that and they both fall down.
I was surprised to see that teh 16mp GX800/850 was the best performing m43 in their tests . But looking at the results from actual RAW files from DPreviews dynamic range test . It does look a bot cleaner maybe NR or something going on, compared to the GH5 the E-M1 II looks poor when pushed the same. The G9 looks a bit less noisy but takes on a magenta cast if pushed too far
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Jim Stirling
“Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.” John Adams
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rrccad
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did this troll post get moved? it's now in the EOS R forum.
Mark Ransom
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Panasonic and Olympus are going bigger and more expensive because they think they need to do it to stay alive.
This is exactly the kind of boldness that put Canon on top. By introducing something just good enough at a price that says "hey look at me", they take the wind out of everybody else's sails.
Mark Ransom
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Yeah, what the ????? It was all about comparing the EOS R to a Panasonic G9.
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Hoka Hey
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Being snarky about DR isn't nice. The dynamic range of the G9 and the RP (6Dii) are about equivalent. In fact, your camera has worse DR than the RP after ISO 800 which is where it is particularly important for MFTs because they can only gather 1/2 as much light as a full frame.
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Mark Ransom
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Last I heard the G9 is a m43 camera. Moot point now since the mods moved the thread.
In other words you want to believe that the G9 is a better camera to convince yourself you did not make a wrong choice. O.K.
bobn2
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Actually not.You need to understand the vagaries of Bill Claff's PDR graphs. The comparison is not what you think.
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Ever wonder why Canon still has thier reputation if thier cameras where as bad as people claim on here.
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bobn2
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Interesting. Care to amplify.
I would think that their DR in real life shooting conditions, except at base ISO will be quite a bit worse than the RP or 6DII
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