Could the A6400 be the perfect street shooter?

As I usually say, whatever works for someone is the best option. I like the 10-18, but it tends to be too wide for most of my environments as I like to approach things. I tend to be in less populated areas.

I'll have to check out the grip. I had one for a camera long ago, but it was a monster of a camera.
 
As I usually say, whatever works for someone is the best option. I like the 10-18, but it tends to be too wide for most of my environments as I like to approach things. I tend to be in less populated areas.

I'll have to check out the grip. I had one for a camera long ago, but it was a monster of a camera.
I could not imagine shooting without a hand grip, with any camera. AFAIC, it should come with every camera, not the terrible neck strap.
 
As I usually say, whatever works for someone is the best option. I like the 10-18, but it tends to be too wide for most of my environments as I like to approach things. I tend to be in less populated areas.

I'll have to check out the grip. I had one for a camera long ago, but it was a monster of a camera.
I could not imagine shooting without a hand grip, with any camera. AFAIC, it should come with every camera, not the terrible neck strap.
I use a wrist strap by Peak, and before that one by BlackRapid. Yes, those straps that come with cameras are rather pointless.
 
As I usually say, whatever works for someone is the best option. I like the 10-18, but it tends to be too wide for most of my environments as I like to approach things. I tend to be in less populated areas.

I'll have to check out the grip. I had one for a camera long ago, but it was a monster of a camera.
I could not imagine shooting without a hand grip, with any camera. AFAIC, it should come with every camera, not the terrible neck strap.
I use a wrist strap by Peak, and before that one by BlackRapid. Yes, those straps that come with cameras are rather pointless.
Not a WRIST STRAP, but a HAND STRAP. Totally different, often confused. Wrist strap prevent’s droppage, but hand strap attached to hand so you do not need to grip the camera in the same way - takes pressure off hand and fingers. If camera is small, it becomes an extention of the hand, requires no holding, camera’s grip size not important.

B&H mistakenly calls this a wrist strap - it is a hand strap or hand grip:

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/prod...DZscPsGdSjjZkYaAq4AEALw_wcB&lsft=BI:514&smp=Y

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WRIST Strap just prevents camera from dropping:

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As I usually say, whatever works for someone is the best option. I like the 10-18, but it tends to be too wide for most of my environments as I like to approach things. I tend to be in less populated areas.

I'll have to check out the grip. I had one for a camera long ago, but it was a monster of a camera.
I could not imagine shooting without a hand grip, with any camera. AFAIC, it should come with every camera, not the terrible neck strap.
I use a wrist strap by Peak, and before that one by BlackRapid. Yes, those straps that come with cameras are rather pointless.
Not a WRIST STRAP, but a HAND STRAP. Totally different, often confused. Wrist strap prevent’s droppage, but hand strap attached to hand so you do not need to grip the camera in the same way - takes pressure off hand and fingers. If camera is small, it becomes an extention of the hand, requires no holding.

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/prod...DZscPsGdSjjZkYaAq4AEALw_wcB&lsft=BI:514&smp=Y

078f6403ae9b4e7c9886a4623882b5e5.jpg.png

WRIST Strap just prevents camera from dropping:

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A wrist strap is just like a hand strap, but without the padding. It depends on the wrist strap you have and how you adjust it. As long as you have a strap that keeps your camera from dropping, that is the most important thing that really matters.

I keep this one on my camera all the time, and it works perfectly, and I've never dropped my camera. But then, I don't have a weak wrist (YMMV), and I don't mind holding my camera with my hand. Besides, most people shoot with both hands, which is better than shooting with one hand (as you know), and the way you should shot a camera.

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As I usually say, whatever works for someone is the best option. I like the 10-18, but it tends to be too wide for most of my environments as I like to approach things. I tend to be in less populated areas.

I'll have to check out the grip. I had one for a camera long ago, but it was a monster of a camera.
I could not imagine shooting without a hand grip, with any camera. AFAIC, it should come with every camera, not the terrible neck strap.
I use a wrist strap by Peak, and before that one by BlackRapid. Yes, those straps that come with cameras are rather pointless.
Not a WRIST STRAP, but a HAND STRAP. Totally different, often confused. Wrist strap prevent’s droppage, but hand strap attached to hand so you do not need to grip the camera in the same way - takes pressure off hand and fingers. If camera is small, it becomes an extention of the hand, requires no holding.

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/prod...DZscPsGdSjjZkYaAq4AEALw_wcB&lsft=BI:514&smp=Y

078f6403ae9b4e7c9886a4623882b5e5.jpg.png

WRIST Strap just prevents camera from dropping:

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A wrist strap is just like a hand strap, but without the padding.
No, they are nothing like each other, as I explained and demonstrated above with the photos. You have to be pretty thick not to see the difference. They have a different design and function, they look totally different, one attaches to the wrist, the other to the hand.
It depends on the wrist strap you have and how you adjust it. As long as you have a strap that keeps your camera from dropping, that is the most important thing that really matters.
You are incorrect - again. A hand grip attaches to the camera in two places (eye and tripod socket) and to the hand so that you do not have to grip it tightly. It also prevents it from falling, but that is only part of its functionality, which is mostly support. A wrist strap attached to the wrist, and just prevents it from dropping, but provides no grip support.
I keep this one on my camera all the time, and it works perfectly, and I've never dropped my camera.
That is a wrist strap, not a hand strap.
But then, I don't have a weak wrist (YMMV), and I don't mind holding my camera with my hand. Besides, most people shoot with both hands, which is better than shooting with one hand (as you know), and the way you should shot a camera.
You obviously have never used a hand strap, and do not understand - or want to understand - it’s function. A hand strap has nothing to do with weak wrists, and can be used one-handed or two-handed, as thousands of photographers do, to provide better support and efficiency for holding the camera.

You can use whatever you want, but your post was totally innacurate and you seemed to want to argue and negate, for some reason, everything I laid out - with considerable effort - clearly differentiating the two types of straps. Why?

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Thx for you thoughts. Your photography is amazing!
BTW, I’ve started using the Sony 20mm 2.8 pancake and it is a great choice for street photography with a6xxx. Incredibly small, light and unobtrusive; an excellent focal length (30mm equiv.), and some extra speed - 2.8 - over the kit lenses (16-50 and 18-135). It has fast AF and seems relatively sharp. The new price just dropped $50 to under $300, but I found a used one for a little over $200.

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I understood the difference and was stating what I use.

Have fun with your choice of equipment and accessories, everybody.
 
I understood the difference and was stating what I use.
That was unclear, but I see now you said that you might try a hand strap and you were curently using a wrist strap by Peak. Sorry for confusion.

Unfortunately Snapa ignorantly posted total misinformation saying the two were exactly the same - doing a disservice to the forum. It’s not the first time.

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Thx for you thoughts. Your photography is amazing!
BTW, I’ve started using the Sony 20mm 2.8 pancake and it is a great choice for street photography with a6xxx. Incredibly small, light and unobtrusive; an excellent focal length (30mm equiv.), and some extra speed - 2.8 - over the kit lenses (16-50 and 18-135). It has fast AF and seems relatively sharp. The new price just dropped $50 to under $300, but I found a used one for a little over $200.
Hey, I'm glad you like it! I dunno why there's so much hate for this lens. Maybe because it's not f1.4, $1000, and large? Well, there are options for everyone now.
 
Thx for you thoughts. Your photography is amazing!
BTW, I’ve started using the Sony 20mm 2.8 pancake and it is a great choice for street photography with a6xxx. Incredibly small, light and unobtrusive; an excellent focal length (30mm equiv.), and some extra speed - 2.8 - over the kit lenses (16-50 and 18-135). It has fast AF and seems relatively sharp. The new price just dropped $50 to under $300, but I found a used one for a little over $200.
Hey, I'm glad you like it! I dunno why there's so much hate for this lens. Maybe because it's not f1.4, $1000, and large? Well, there are options for everyone now.
My needs as a street photographer (and the way I shoot) are somewhat different than other photographers, other genres; priorities for me are small size, weight, FL, speed of AF.

The 20mm fits the bill for me in offering a bit more than the kit lens - a little sharper, a little faster, a little smaller. For others, I would not necessarily recommend over the 16-50 kit lens, especially new at $300 - I got a used one for $200. The main thing is that it retains center sharpness wide open at 2.8

With a hand strap the a6300 and pancake feel a part of my hand, incredibly light, small and unobtrusive - perfect for fast and loose one-handed shooting out on the street. The extra speed gives an extra stop in darker conditions and let me shoot with a faster SS.

Thanks for the recommendation!

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When I was considering the Sony 20mm f/2.8 lens, I read & watched everything that I could find and it all boiled down to the owners' attitudes toward the lens. For those chasing perfection, it wasn't perfect enough. For those happy with the results, it was a great little lens.

I finally decided to purchase it and am delighted with it! I use this lens on an a5100 for short video clips where I am in front of the camera. I think it works fine for my application. It's been decades since I did anything resembling street photography (using Nikon film cameras). In my film camera days, I made extensive use of 50mm (non-crop camera). Using a Sony APS-C camera, a 35mm lens would closely approximate that same field of view and I would be inclined to use that focal length for street photography.

Jim
 
When I was considering the Sony 20mm f/2.8 lens, I read & watched everything that I could find and it all boiled down to the owners' attitudes toward the lens. For those chasing perfection, it wasn't perfect enough. For those happy with the results, it was a great little lens.

I finally decided to purchase it and am delighted with it! I use this lens on an a5100 for short video clips where I am in front of the camera. I think it works fine for my application. It's been decades since I did anything resembling street photography (using Nikon film cameras). In my film camera days, I made extensive use of 50mm (non-crop camera). Using a Sony APS-C camera, a 35mm lens would closely approximate that same field of view and I would be inclined to use that focal length for street photography.
Im enjoying it as well. Tiny, sharp, relatively fast, great FL, wonderful for SP.
 
When I was considering the Sony 20mm f/2.8 lens, I read & watched everything that I could find and it all boiled down to the owners' attitudes toward the lens. For those chasing perfection, it wasn't perfect enough. For those happy with the results, it was a great little lens.

I finally decided to purchase it and am delighted with it! I use this lens on an a5100 for short video clips where I am in front of the camera. I think it works fine for my application. It's been decades since I did anything resembling street photography (using Nikon film cameras). In my film camera days, I made extensive use of 50mm (non-crop camera). Using a Sony APS-C camera, a 35mm lens would closely approximate that same field of view and I would be inclined to use that focal length for street photography.

Jim
Thanks Jim. I think I am going to purchase the 35 1.8 like you mentioned. The OSS, speed, and focal length will probably serve me well. Guess we shall see soon!
 
When I was considering the Sony 20mm f/2.8 lens, I read & watched everything that I could find and it all boiled down to the owners' attitudes toward the lens. For those chasing perfection, it wasn't perfect enough. For those happy with the results, it was a great little lens.

I finally decided to purchase it and am delighted with it! I use this lens on an a5100 for short video clips where I am in front of the camera. I think it works fine for my application. It's been decades since I did anything resembling street photography (using Nikon film cameras). In my film camera days, I made extensive use of 50mm (non-crop camera). Using a Sony APS-C camera, a 35mm lens would closely approximate that same field of view and I would be inclined to use that focal length for street photography.

Jim
Thanks Jim. I think I am going to purchase the 35 1.8 like you mentioned. The OSS, speed, and focal length will probably serve me well. Guess we shall see soon!
I have a tendency to take awhile to research my purchases (my wife would probably say that I over-think the pros and cons). From my film days, I am pretty settled on my preferred focal lengths such as my regard for the "Nifty fifty" (50mm on the old 35mm SLRs). When it comes to the attributes of a lens, I want to read/watch everything I can to understand what I am buying. I did end up purchasing the 35mm f/1.8 Sony lens but I remember spending extra time pondering the purchase. I remember that this YouTube video gave me some details to ponder:
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Good luck!

Jim
 
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When I was considering the Sony 20mm f/2.8 lens, I read & watched everything that I could find and it all boiled down to the owners' attitudes toward the lens. For those chasing perfection, it wasn't perfect enough. For those happy with the results, it was a great little lens.

I finally decided to purchase it and am delighted with it! I use this lens on an a5100 for short video clips where I am in front of the camera. I think it works fine for my application. It's been decades since I did anything resembling street photography (using Nikon film cameras). In my film camera days, I made extensive use of 50mm (non-crop camera). Using a Sony APS-C camera, a 35mm lens would closely approximate that same field of view and I would be inclined to use that focal length for street photography.

Jim
Thanks Jim. I think I am going to purchase the 35 1.8 like you mentioned. The OSS, speed, and focal length will probably serve me well. Guess we shall see soon!
I have a tendency to take awhile to research my purchases (my wife would probably say that I over-think the pros and cons). From my film days, I am pretty settled on my preferred focal lengths such as my regard for the "Nifty fifty" (50mm on the old 35mm SLRs). When it comes to the attributes of a lens, I want to read/watch everything I can to understand what I am buying. I did end up purchasing the 35mm f/1.8 Sony lens but I remember spending extra time pondering the purchase. I remember that this YouTube video gave me some details to ponder:
.

Good luck!

Jim
I live a few blocks from B&H so I can always test a lens for 30 days before making final decision. I usually keep, but did return the 24mm 1.8 after a week's use - did not seem worth the hefty weight and price for my purposes.

I have both the 35mm 1.8 and the 20mm 2.8. They are both fine, tiny and light lenses, with significant FL and speed differences as well as OSS. For their appropriate purposes, both are great.

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When I was considering the Sony 20mm f/2.8 lens, I read & watched everything that I could find and it all boiled down to the owners' attitudes toward the lens. For those chasing perfection, it wasn't perfect enough. For those happy with the results, it was a great little lens.

I finally decided to purchase it and am delighted with it! I use this lens on an a5100 for short video clips where I am in front of the camera. I think it works fine for my application. It's been decades since I did anything resembling street photography (using Nikon film cameras). In my film camera days, I made extensive use of 50mm (non-crop camera). Using a Sony APS-C camera, a 35mm lens would closely approximate that same field of view and I would be inclined to use that focal length for street photography.

Jim
Thanks Jim. I think I am going to purchase the 35 1.8 like you mentioned. The OSS, speed, and focal length will probably serve me well. Guess we shall see soon!
I have a tendency to take awhile to research my purchases (my wife would probably say that I over-think the pros and cons). From my film days, I am pretty settled on my preferred focal lengths such as my regard for the "Nifty fifty" (50mm on the old 35mm SLRs). When it comes to the attributes of a lens, I want to read/watch everything I can to understand what I am buying. I did end up purchasing the 35mm f/1.8 Sony lens but I remember spending extra time pondering the purchase. I remember that this YouTube video gave me some details to ponder:
.

Good luck!

Jim
I live a few blocks from B&H so I can always test a lens for 30 days before making final decision. I usually keep, but did return the 24mm 1.8 after a week's use - did not seem worth the hefty weight and price for my purposes.

I have both the 35mm 1.8 and the 20mm 2.8. They are both fine, tiny and light lenses, with significant FL and speed differences as well as OSS. For their appropriate purposes, both are great.
Wow! Living a few blocks from B&H could get expensive! :-)

When I got my first (film) SLR several decades ago, for years, the only lens I had was a fast 50mm. I sure got plenty of practice zooming with my feet. I shot mostly B&W in those days. Eventually, I acquired more and more equipment but maintained a fondness for the 50mm focal length. We sure have it made these days with so many excellent options. I'm especially grateful for my Sony OSS primes like the 20mm f/2.8, 35mm f/1.8 & 50mm f/1.8 since my rock-steady grip has long disappeared. :-)

Jim
 
When I was considering the Sony 20mm f/2.8 lens, I read & watched everything that I could find and it all boiled down to the owners' attitudes toward the lens. For those chasing perfection, it wasn't perfect enough. For those happy with the results, it was a great little lens.

I finally decided to purchase it and am delighted with it! I use this lens on an a5100 for short video clips where I am in front of the camera. I think it works fine for my application. It's been decades since I did anything resembling street photography (using Nikon film cameras). In my film camera days, I made extensive use of 50mm (non-crop camera). Using a Sony APS-C camera, a 35mm lens would closely approximate that same field of view and I would be inclined to use that focal length for street photography.

Jim
Thanks Jim. I think I am going to purchase the 35 1.8 like you mentioned. The OSS, speed, and focal length will probably serve me well. Guess we shall see soon!
I have a tendency to take awhile to research my purchases (my wife would probably say that I over-think the pros and cons). From my film days, I am pretty settled on my preferred focal lengths such as my regard for the "Nifty fifty" (50mm on the old 35mm SLRs). When it comes to the attributes of a lens, I want to read/watch everything I can to understand what I am buying. I did end up purchasing the 35mm f/1.8 Sony lens but I remember spending extra time pondering the purchase. I remember that this YouTube video gave me some details to ponder:
.

Good luck!

Jim
I live a few blocks from B&H so I can always test a lens for 30 days before making final decision. I usually keep, but did return the 24mm 1.8 after a week's use - did not seem worth the hefty weight and price for my purposes.

I have both the 35mm 1.8 and the 20mm 2.8. They are both fine, tiny and light lenses, with significant FL and speed differences as well as OSS. For their appropriate purposes, both are great.
Wow! Living a few blocks from B&H could get expensive! :-)

When I got my first (film) SLR several decades ago, for years, the only lens I had was a fast 50mm. I sure got plenty of practice zooming with my feet. I shot mostly B&W in those days. Eventually, I acquired more and more equipment but maintained a fondness for the 50mm focal length. We sure have it made these days with so many excellent options. I'm especially grateful for my Sony OSS primes like the 20mm f/2.8, 35mm f/1.8 & 50mm f/1.8 since my rock-steady grip has long disappeared. :-)

Jim
Try a hand grip (not a wrist strap) will steady hand quite a bit and make camera much easier to carry and shoot.

20mm 2.8 (pancake) is not OSS.
 
When I was considering the Sony 20mm f/2.8 lens, I read & watched everything that I could find and it all boiled down to the owners' attitudes toward the lens. For those chasing perfection, it wasn't perfect enough. For those happy with the results, it was a great little lens.

I finally decided to purchase it and am delighted with it! I use this lens on an a5100 for short video clips where I am in front of the camera. I think it works fine for my application. It's been decades since I did anything resembling street photography (using Nikon film cameras). In my film camera days, I made extensive use of 50mm (non-crop camera). Using a Sony APS-C camera, a 35mm lens would closely approximate that same field of view and I would be inclined to use that focal length for street photography.

Jim
Thanks Jim. I think I am going to purchase the 35 1.8 like you mentioned. The OSS, speed, and focal length will probably serve me well. Guess we shall see soon!
I have a tendency to take awhile to research my purchases (my wife would probably say that I over-think the pros and cons). From my film days, I am pretty settled on my preferred focal lengths such as my regard for the "Nifty fifty" (50mm on the old 35mm SLRs). When it comes to the attributes of a lens, I want to read/watch everything I can to understand what I am buying. I did end up purchasing the 35mm f/1.8 Sony lens but I remember spending extra time pondering the purchase. I remember that this YouTube video gave me some details to ponder:
.

Good luck!

Jim
I live a few blocks from B&H so I can always test a lens for 30 days before making final decision. I usually keep, but did return the 24mm 1.8 after a week's use - did not seem worth the hefty weight and price for my purposes.

I have both the 35mm 1.8 and the 20mm 2.8. They are both fine, tiny and light lenses, with significant FL and speed differences as well as OSS. For their appropriate purposes, both are great.
Wow! Living a few blocks from B&H could get expensive! :-)

When I got my first (film) SLR several decades ago, for years, the only lens I had was a fast 50mm. I sure got plenty of practice zooming with my feet. I shot mostly B&W in those days. Eventually, I acquired more and more equipment but maintained a fondness for the 50mm focal length. We sure have it made these days with so many excellent options. I'm especially grateful for my Sony OSS primes like the 20mm f/2.8, 35mm f/1.8 & 50mm f/1.8 since my rock-steady grip has long disappeared. :-)

Jim
Try a hand grip (not a wrist strap) will steady hand quite a bit and make camera much easier to carry and shoot.

20mm 2.8 (pancake) is not OSS.
Thanks--you're right! I lost track of that detail. It's my only non-stabilized lens. When I sold my three Sigma Art lenses, I thought that was the end of my non-OSS lenses. I have been using a small collapsed tripod as my handgrip with pretty good results with the Sony 20mm lens for short video clips.

I appreciate the advice and thanks for straightening me out on the 20mm pancake lens!

Jim
 

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