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Hello guys,

I want to sell my a99ii, zeiss 135 1.8 , zeiss 85 1.4 and want to buy 1dx mark ii with fast mid wide lens and sigma 85 1.4

But i am between 1dx markii , and a73

I never used canon before except 650d.

I am shooting famous fitness model's interior gym motivation videos, and outside portrait pictures.

What you can say if you compare this camera with a7s2 ?

A7iii will get new uptade this month with real time eye af.I wonder the low light af speed of 1dx mark ii.
 
zonson said:
Hello guys,

I want to sell my a99ii, zeiss 135 1.8 , zeiss 85 1.4 and want to buy 1dx mark ii with fast mid wide lens and sigma 85 1.4

But i am between 1dx markii , and a73

I never used canon before except 650d.

I am shooting famous fitness model's interior gym motivation videos, and outside portrait pictures.

What you can say if you compare this camera with a7s2 ?

A7iii will get new uptade this month with real time eye af.I wonder the low light af speed of 1dx mark ii.
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For the uses stated, I would consider buying two cheaper mirrorless bodes and then in the gym shoot, having one static rig and a second moving rig you can then splice in the footage from. If you need 4K resolution the Canon CODEC is very memory hungry and there is the crop factor to consider: can you work with the MJPEG format? Do you need a wide view of the gym interior? For portraits, do you like Canon skin tone rendition or are you not to fussed? Answering these questions will help you to decide. EOS R can take EF-S lenses (for wide angel video) and focuses to EV -6: is that an option given you may not need fast FPS?
 
I have Canon, Nikon and Sony cameras (and lenses). My advice is to go for the camera which give you eye-af.
 
My 1DXII and 5DIV eye AF works perfectly for me throughout the viewfinder. It is not just "Face AF" . This is my experience to share. The Sony bodies ( even the A9) was not as reliable in AF as the 1DXII. It would be amazing sometimes and other times would just go off somewhere else randomly during AF.
 
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zonson said:
Hello guys,

I want to sell my a99ii, zeiss 135 1.8 , zeiss 85 1.4 and want to buy 1dx mark ii with fast mid wide lens and sigma 85 1.4

But i am between 1dx markii , and a73

I never used canon before except 650d.

I am shooting famous fitness model's interior gym motivation videos, and outside portrait pictures.

What you can say if you compare this camera with a7s2 ?

A7iii will get new uptade this month with real time eye af.I wonder the low light af speed of 1dx mark ii.
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Not sure if you can rent where you are but a nice way to try out gear before investing or selling off what you have
 
Johnnyxbow said:
Was not aware that 5div had eye focus! Would be interested to hear more.
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Canon 1DxII and 5DIV don't have eyeAF just "Spot AF". Spot AF is very good, but EyeAF on the A9 at least is more accurate other than the occasional miss-focus. That occasional miss-focus is typically a wrong setting issue, which is a bigger deal with the A9 than the 1DxII, which will produce fast and quite accurate AF with just about any Case setting.

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Blake in Vancouver
Canon and Zeiss Stuff. Mac Stuff & annoying PC & Windows stuff.
 
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Blake Cook said:
Johnnyxbow said:
Was not aware that 5div had eye focus! Would be interested to hear more.
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Canon 1DxII and 5DIV don't have eyeAF just "Spot AF". Spot AF is very good, but EyeAF on the A9 at least is more accurate other than the occasional miss-focus. That occasional miss-focus is typically a wrong setting issue, which is a bigger deal with the A9 than the 1DxII, which will produce fast and quite accurate AF with just about any Case setting.
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Thank you Blake.

I had a 1dxii for 18 months and also have a 5div. Just thought I had missed something significant. Sort of makes you question yourself when you see that sort of comment. I sort of wished it was something I had missed in a way.
 
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It always prioritizes the eye though. From what i know about recognition technology, it uses contrast as one of the main ways of knowing where the eye is. The A9 should be no different in that sense. A computer cant just know what an eye is, so maybe it priorities contrast plus shape recognition where as Canon may just do contrast only ( we cant be sure about how each system works exactly though)

Regardless the net result for me is that I always use this feature for shooting portraits with my 85 1.2 L, 50 1.2L, 600 f4L II, etc. and it nails AF on the eye perfectly. Not on the eyebrows or cheeks but on the actual eye itself. Works like a charm for me.
 
Blake Cook said:
Johnnyxbow said:
Was not aware that 5div had eye focus! Would be interested to hear more.
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Canon 1DxII and 5DIV don't have eyeAF just "Spot AF". Spot AF is very good, but EyeAF on the A9 at least is more accurate other than the occasional miss-focus. That occasional miss-focus is typically a wrong setting issue, which is a bigger deal with the A9 than the 1DxII, which will produce fast and quite accurate AF with just about any Case setting.
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I see you own both the A9 and 1DXII, does your 1DX not focus perfectly on the eye when using iTR ? It works so good for me that I dont ever have to switch modes to single point af. Even with moving subjects.
 
hermit383 said:
It always prioritizes the eye though. From what i know about recognition technology, it uses contrast as one of the main ways of knowing where the eye is. The A9 should be no different in that sense. A computer cant just know what an eye is, so maybe it priorities contrast plus shape recognition where as Canon may just do contrast only ( we cant be sure about how each system works exactly though)

Regardless the net result for me is that I always use this feature for shooting portraits with my 85 1.2 L, 50 1.2L, 600 f4L II, etc. and it nails AF on the eye perfectly. Not on the eyebrows or cheeks but on the actual eye itself. Works like a charm for me.
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That's interesting. I don't take a lot of people photos and always used single point spot focus. What AF setting do you use, iTR + what else?
 
hermit383 said:
Blake Cook said:
Johnnyxbow said:
Was not aware that 5div had eye focus! Would be interested to hear more.
Click to expand...
Canon 1DxII and 5DIV don't have eyeAF just "Spot AF". Spot AF is very good, but EyeAF on the A9 at least is more accurate other than the occasional miss-focus. That occasional miss-focus is typically a wrong setting issue, which is a bigger deal with the A9 than the 1DxII, which will produce fast and quite accurate AF with just about any Case setting.
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I see you own both the A9 and 1DXII, does your 1DX not focus perfectly on the eye when using iTR ? It works so good for me that I dont ever have to switch modes to single point af. Even with moving subjects.
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I take very few portraits and just use spot af single point and don't bother with Face Priority. I was intrigued the the A9 Eye Af and played with it quite bit but haven't gone back to the 1DxII.You learn something every day.
 
Auto Select AF

- Ai Servo,

initial af point set to "auto",

Af priority set in the middle for both Focus and Continuous shooting

I constantly change the tracking sensitivity, accel/decel, Af auto switching setting ( I have the individual setting that make up the "case" modes assigned to a custom menu page which makes adjusting each individual setting that make up the case scenarios easier.

I also have another custom shooting mode where I have Initial AF point set to manual, I use this for wild life and street shooting.

For all shooting modes, in the custom buttons menu I have:

Shutter release button set to AF + metering start with AF Expand- Ai Servo

AF-ON button set to AF+ metering start with Auto Select AF- AI servo

(*) button (AElock) set to AF + metering start with Single Spot AF- Single Shot
 
hermit383 said:
Auto Select AF

- Ai Servo,

initial af point set to "auto",

Af priority set in the middle for both Focus and Continuous shooting

I constantly change the tracking sensitivity, accel/decel, Af auto switching setting ( I have the individual setting that make up the "case" modes assigned to a custom menu page which makes adjusting each individual setting that make up the case scenarios easier.

I also have another custom shooting mode where I have Initial AF point set to manual, I use this for wild life and street shooting.

For all shooting modes, in the custom buttons menu I have:

Shutter release button set to AF + metering start with AF Expand- Ai Servo

AF-ON button set to AF+ metering start with Auto Select AF- AI servo

(*) button (AElock) set to AF + metering start with Single Spot AF- Single Shot
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That's quite a list of variables. I toggle through 4 custom mode settings for various common shooting scenarios, nothing quite like yours.. I'm total back button AF. Interesting.
 
Blake Cook said:
hermit383 said:
Auto Select AF

- Ai Servo,

initial af point set to "auto",

Af priority set in the middle for both Focus and Continuous shooting

I constantly change the tracking sensitivity, accel/decel, Af auto switching setting ( I have the individual setting that make up the "case" modes assigned to a custom menu page which makes adjusting each individual setting that make up the case scenarios easier.

I also have another custom shooting mode where I have Initial AF point set to manual, I use this for wild life and street shooting.

For all shooting modes, in the custom buttons menu I have:

Shutter release button set to AF + metering start with AF Expand- Ai Servo

AF-ON button set to AF+ metering start with Auto Select AF- AI servo

(*) button (AElock) set to AF + metering start with Single Spot AF- Single Shot
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That's quite a list of variables. I toggle through 4 custom mode settings for various common shooting scenarios, nothing quite like yours.. I'm total back button AF. Interesting.
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Johnnyxbow said:
Blake Cook said:
Johnnyxbow said:
Was not aware that 5div had eye focus! Would be interested to hear more.
Click to expand...
Canon 1DxII and 5DIV don't have eyeAF just "Spot AF". Spot AF is very good, but EyeAF on the A9 at least is more accurate other than the occasional miss-focus. That occasional miss-focus is typically a wrong setting issue, which is a bigger deal with the A9 than the 1DxII, which will produce fast and quite accurate AF with just about any Case setting.
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Thank you Blake.

I had a 1dxii for 18 months and also have a 5div. Just thought I had missed something significant. Sort of makes you question yourself when you see that sort of comment. I sort of wished it was something I had missed in a way.
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Try it again with your bodies. It works for me perfectly on both bodies ( 5DIV and 1DXII). We continued the discussion further too.

Works better at farther distanced with he 1DXII than 5DIV due to the 360,000 resolution metering unit vs the 150,000 in the 5D
 
hermit383 said:
Blake Cook said:
hermit383 said:
That's quite a list of variables. I toggle through 4 custom mode settings for various common shooting scenarios, nothing quite like yours.. I'm total back button AF. Interesting.
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The purpose of my setup is so I can have 3 fully different AF functions on the fly without changing any setting at all. Each button a different mode.
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For the most part that's how I operate, but sometimes I'll change a parameter in one or more of the modes to get things right for the condition. All of the modes start as manual with variations in SS for prop planes and jets, then a much higher SS and FPS for birds. Plus one mode that is just Manual everything else. Depending upon the light I may change ISO from Auto to Manual if ISO 50 is needed to get the low SS I want and AWB to Kelvin for aircraft with clear skies.

I toggle each mode in sequence with the MFn button.
 
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