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Donald B
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LOL i came 3rd using the same camera but on "A"
i shot alot of macro though .Don
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i shot alot of macro though .Don
WhiteBeard
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That's obvious! How the hell can you be bold enough to think you can take a viable pic of a steam-engine train without the E-M1X train mode? ;-)
Walt Palmer
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(Mom's voice) "Not dressed like that you're not leaving." You at least need an M1x to shoot trains. And some sturdy shoes. That 8-18 is lovely though. Should I pack you a sandwich?
Don, if you shoot lots of macros, you should choose M mode
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Cost aside, every time that I feel just ever so slightly tempted to switch to full frame, my next flight (I travel on plane at least once a month) will always reminds me how lucky I am to have gone the m43 route.
A small 28cm x 16cm, 5cm pouch can easily house my EM5 Mk2 along with 5 small lenses so I will never need to choose which lens to not bring with me.
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It would take a whole lot to pull me away. Other ML may have better DOF control or more BG blur, and i do care about that, but there's so much more. My G9 and Oly 75mm are pretty good for blurring when i need it, and the feature set is amazing. Ergos are awesome, IBIS, huge EVF, USB power, very good 4k and 4k features, super rez mode, insanely fast burst, the list of good is amazing.
Im not saying Canikon or Fuji or Sony will never have all the above but they probably won't any time soon and surely not at a price that beats what i paid in MFT.
I'm not leaving either cause where else am I going to go and shoot 800 and even up to 1600mm handheld without breaking the bank much less bringing it with me on a trip and carrying a 10lb , 2ft long lens. In fact besides my G9 which I really enjoy I have a Sony RX100vi which I find using more often on trips simply because it's smaller and easy to put in my pocket while having excellent image quality for my purposes.
I hope the emphasis in gear doesn't go to bigger is better. I'm sure it is in some ways but smaller has many advantages as well which I'm happy to give up that last 5-7% iq for. Most times I can't even see the difference.
I hope the emphasis in gear doesn't go to bigger is better. I'm sure it is in some ways but smaller has many advantages as well which I'm happy to give up that last 5-7% iq for. Most times I can't even see the difference.
Lu1Wang
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My father was always angry with me for not taking his mighty 6D and f2.8 triple zooms when I travel, and choosing the crappy tiny Oly instead.
Guess what, he is using M43 as well nowadays and is planing to get rid of most of his Canon gear. He even borrowed my 40-150 Pro for his next trip to Tibet
Guess what, he is using M43 as well nowadays and is planing to get rid of most of his Canon gear. He even borrowed my 40-150 Pro for his next trip to Tibet
John W H
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I did consider getting the rx100m6 to replace my lx100 as my "pocket" camera but as I've now bought 2 lenses I'd probably better wait :-|
1943Mike
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John,
I've been toying with the idea of getting either another 35mm sensor camera like a Sony A7r or Nikon Z7 (I have the old classic Canon 5D still) or a camera with a sensor size like my Canon 7D (original model) such as the Fuji XT3, but, like the posters have been saying on this thread, what for?
I'm tickled pink with the glass I have for my m43 cameras (Pany GF1, Oly E-M5, E-M1, and E-M1.2) so I believe the glass and my cameras would give me all the image quality I want for printing and viewing the images I create. I currently have the old Pany 14-45 f/3.5-5.6, the Oly 12-40 f/2.8, the Oly 7-14 f/2.8, the Oly 60 f/2.8, the Oly 25 f/1.8, the Oly 12-50 that came with my E-M5, and one more manual focus lens. I'm looking forward to getting the 150-400 f/4.5 if my bank account can handle it. If not, then I'll probably go for the 300 f/4. I'm not convinced that I'd be able to use the Pany 100-400 to get the images I'd like but I might consider it also.
I too looked at some of my old Canon 10D files recently and was perfectly happy with them. Actually they look better than some of my 7D files. I do have an Epson P800 printer and do like to print large from time to time so the old 5D doesn't get used that often anymore.
So, to reiterate, yes, m43 gives me just about everything I want in photo equipment. I may actually buy the 1X, as large and heavy as it is, to take on some of my hikes. I love the idea of HHHR!
The image is of my brother and me. I'm the 7 or 8 year old with the Baby Brownie.
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1943Mike
I've been toying with the idea of getting either another 35mm sensor camera like a Sony A7r or Nikon Z7 (I have the old classic Canon 5D still) or a camera with a sensor size like my Canon 7D (original model) such as the Fuji XT3, but, like the posters have been saying on this thread, what for?
I'm tickled pink with the glass I have for my m43 cameras (Pany GF1, Oly E-M5, E-M1, and E-M1.2) so I believe the glass and my cameras would give me all the image quality I want for printing and viewing the images I create. I currently have the old Pany 14-45 f/3.5-5.6, the Oly 12-40 f/2.8, the Oly 7-14 f/2.8, the Oly 60 f/2.8, the Oly 25 f/1.8, the Oly 12-50 that came with my E-M5, and one more manual focus lens. I'm looking forward to getting the 150-400 f/4.5 if my bank account can handle it. If not, then I'll probably go for the 300 f/4. I'm not convinced that I'd be able to use the Pany 100-400 to get the images I'd like but I might consider it also.
I too looked at some of my old Canon 10D files recently and was perfectly happy with them. Actually they look better than some of my 7D files. I do have an Epson P800 printer and do like to print large from time to time so the old 5D doesn't get used that often anymore.
So, to reiterate, yes, m43 gives me just about everything I want in photo equipment. I may actually buy the 1X, as large and heavy as it is, to take on some of my hikes. I love the idea of HHHR!
The image is of my brother and me. I'm the 7 or 8 year old with the Baby Brownie.
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1943Mike
Punters seem to be happy enough with my E-M5ii shots. I'm using an excellent GX80 as my second body, but I'm going to sell that as I don't get on with it for my needs.
Instead I'm splashing out on a used E-M1 with battery grip for approx £350.
Some may see that as a retrograde step, but not for me.
I think it will be great. Similar functionality for less price than a used version of my EM5-ii. And they use the same batteries. I'm looking forward to next week when I get it.
Instead I'm splashing out on a used E-M1 with battery grip for approx £350.
Some may see that as a retrograde step, but not for me.
I think it will be great. Similar functionality for less price than a used version of my EM5-ii. And they use the same batteries. I'm looking forward to next week when I get it.
I was taught photography/darkroom using Yashica TLRs in the early 80s. As a part of the process the teacher, the dear Mr.Griffin, showed us his history of cameras.The image is of my brother and me. I'm the 7 or 8 year old with the Baby Brownie.
The Baby Brownie. Try explaining that box to some people here!
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Every year or so I get The Flying Scotsman visiting very near me. I'll give your advice a go.
My partner made the mistake when she talked to some of the enthusiasts there by asking them if they were 'train spotters'. Ouch!!
John W H
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I agree. I'm very happy with my Em1 mark 1 and the images never fail to impress (when I get it right anyway!). The camera doesn't limit me, more the other way around.
Depending on how the prices of the EM1.2 and G9 go in the next few months I may upgrade to get the 20mp sensor and other good bits but I'm not desperate to change.
Much prefer spending the money on lenses at the moment to get the best quality I can there ,as I figure they'll last me much longer than any body.
John
Depending on how the prices of the EM1.2 and G9 go in the next few months I may upgrade to get the 20mp sensor and other good bits but I'm not desperate to change.
Much prefer spending the money on lenses at the moment to get the best quality I can there ,as I figure they'll last me much longer than any body.
John
WhiteBeard
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Applause! Besides being a natural conspiration by equipment makers to entice the gullible masses to upgrade their gear every 1-2 years, I suspect a dark project of airlines and touristic organizations to push people who took a "dismal" 2, 5 or 10 Mp picture of the Eiffel tower to go back with the latest High res E-M1X (or others) to take at last a real 50-80 Mp picture of the 120 rear-old thing. Fortunately, it might still be there for the next generation of 200 Mp Super-Extra-Duper-Highest-possible-Res cameras that are sure to come.The point is 99% of the gear, any camera, any lenses offer real world performance higher than 99% of those who will use any of it, that have skills enough to use it all.
This is not new as over the last 15 or so years the gear available has more built in capability to create good images than the skills of the users have.
Btiching and whining about this camera, that camera, this lens, that lens, this sensor format, that sensor format is all GEAR HEAD TALK! It's all moot and has been for as I said over 15+ years.
99/100 viewers looking at comparable images from comparable era cameras Canon, Nikon, Sony, Olympus, Panasonic, Pentax, Sigma etc. will not be able to really see any technical differences, nor would they likely care and if they do see any technical differences, it's negligible to those 99/100 people's eyes and emotions.
Only gear heads and deranged pixel peepers maxing out images at 200% zoom on a computer screen or looking at 30"x40" or larger prints with a negative loop will try to see and care. Yes, I know we or most of us can be guilty of doing this AT TIMES! But, I say if you do that often or all the time, it's time to GET UP AND GO OUTSIDE FOR A LONG WALK! For you have or are losing perspective on photography and what photography is to mean to the human being and his /her mind and soul.
I was just pouring over my older image files some going back to Canon 10D 6.3MP camera and do you know what? THE IMAGES LOOKED PERFECTLY FINE! "Oh no how can that be the 10D was a lowly 6.3 MP DSLR, surely they all suck compared to current cameras' images. Low light images had to have sucked as these cameras were way more noisy at such compared to any brand name camera today." Well Sunshine, they didn't and don't. Myself and many other people shot perfectly good images in any and all conditions 10-15+ years ago with lesser tech gear compared to such today.
Of course technology has moved forward, m4/3rs cameras for one have better low light noise than any of these legacy cameras did, tells me though that IT'S NOT AN ISSUE! It may be a compromise as all gear have inherent compromises of this or that. So yes, new tech may be and/or is great, but it's not that yesteryear stuff turned over time to cr*p.
Any camera including oh no lowly m4/3 rds (bullsh*t whiners talk on M4/3rds) in the hands of a person who cares to shoot as best they can will deliver great results. Take the "Best" digital camera in either usability or image quality and give it to a goof off or a person who does not know how to work it and/or compose a good image and you will get subpar or sh*tty images even with a $50,000 Digital back Medium Format camera, hence my point 99% of the gear is better able than 99% of those who shoot with it all.
Of course this being a gear forum and not really a photography forum like most of its online peers and I see why we see all too many nonsense threads. But is why these threads must be met with POV's that push back at times against this nonsense.
Sigh...
You just don't understand.
Pocket calculator is better at computing than 100% of humans. Still, ms excel.sells very well even though 99% of its users are not able to use 99% of its capacity.
If olympus shares your views, they will go out of business faster than many suspect.
Pocket calculator is better at computing than 100% of humans. Still, ms excel.sells very well even though 99% of its users are not able to use 99% of its capacity.
If olympus shares your views, they will go out of business faster than many suspect.
JaKing
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Neither do you, apparently ...
However, different users each use a different 1% (or whatever .. ). In total, ALL the users may well use 90%+ of all the features available between them.
Robert Evagelista
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I tried to find love the alternatives..
but we I have been spoiled by olympus by their small 1.8 primes and reasonably priced.
It is hard to get the same 25,45,75 1.8 combo on other systems... that will not break my bank and my arm (weight)..
In fact I will stick to the pen-f and whatever if ever it will be continued.
This camera is far more capable than what I can push it to do. So there is no need for me to look outside. My GAS is just making it difficult.
but we I have been spoiled by olympus by their small 1.8 primes and reasonably priced.
It is hard to get the same 25,45,75 1.8 combo on other systems... that will not break my bank and my arm (weight)..
In fact I will stick to the pen-f and whatever if ever it will be continued.
This camera is far more capable than what I can push it to do. So there is no need for me to look outside. My GAS is just making it difficult.
VideoPic
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Great feedback, thank you. I personally do not print enough, have always spoken about a wall with our pictures on there but never did that.
Have fun with the train shoot - I did a ride last year in an old timer...oily but fun....
Siegfried
Have fun with the train shoot - I did a ride last year in an old timer...oily but fun....
Siegfried
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