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Better 10D focus test for Pearl Rider

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... where Phil took several more 10Ds that WEREN'T sent to him by Canon and tested them. He STILL didn't find any focus problems with them. He DID find that he had one lens out of calibration though.
Next time, YOU bring the doughnuts and make 'em Krispy Krremes. ;-)
 
So you admit you couldn't manually focus any better than the AF did, then? (rim shot) That was too easy. LOL.

Or will you now claim that your MF was better than the AF?

Which argument do you wish to lose? LOL

BTW, that shot (small aperture and large subject distance) is hardly the same as the shot that Bill showed. You know, the one where I asked if somebody could consistently manually focus better than the auto-focus?
Pearl Rider said:
DavidP said:
And you claim that your 10D doesn't have an AF issue? ROFL
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That's right... it doesn't. If you can't see the camera movement in
the AF shot, then YOU have the problem inspecting images.
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DavidP said:
So you admit you couldn't manually focus any better than the AF
did, then? (rim shot) That was too easy. LOL.

Or will you now claim that your MF was better than the AF?

Which argument do you wish to lose? LOL

BTW, that shot (small aperture and large subject distance) is
hardly the same as the shot that Bill showed. You know, the one
where I asked if somebody could consistently manually focus better
than the auto-focus?
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Just like Jack said you'd do... change the argument. What WAS the aperture I used, David? I would think that my subject, being less contrasty and smaller in the viewfinder would be even MORE difficult to focus on that Bill's "test". It doesn't matter what I or anyone else posts in response to your ridiculous claims and challenges, you're NEVER going to stop finding ways to bash the cameras.
 
Well, since you said you used the 28-135 IS, the aperture was clearly smaller than the f/1.8 Bill used in his shot.

Changed the argument? Nah, I just let you set yourself up, that's all. Just a slight tilt of the table from me was all it took. LOL.

And I'll bet you thought you had me.
Pearl Rider said:
Just like Jack said you'd do... change the argument. What WAS the
aperture I used, David? I would think that my subject, being less
contrasty and smaller in the viewfinder would be even MORE
difficult to focus on that Bill's "test". It doesn't matter what I
or anyone else posts in response to your ridiculous claims and
challenges, you're NEVER going to stop finding ways to bash the
cameras.
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Amazing. ;)

You do realize you'd have to be at ISO 1600 under the "sunny and f/16" rule, right?

Is that at 24mm, too?

Hyperfocal focus, yahoooooo!
rlindabury said:
I can consistantly hand-hold and manually focus f22 shots at 1/1000
shutter speed.

:P
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LOL

Figured this thread needed a little levity. [grin]
DavidP said:
You do realize you'd have to be at ISO 1600 under the "sunny and
f/16" rule, right?

Is that at 24mm, too?

Hyperfocal focus, yahoooooo!
rlindabury said:
I can consistantly hand-hold and manually focus f22 shots at 1/1000
shutter speed.

:P
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They are different focussing systems aren't they?

M

PS So what you are saying is that your camera managed to focus on something that was not on or inside any part of the focussing square?
DavidP said:
Guess what? It can focus when the contrast is outside of the corner.

Amazing, huh?

Funny how few 10D owners have apparently wanted to test this. LOL.
Pearl Rider said:
The problem here is that if David actually HAD a 10D, he could
actually try that himself. He doesn't and he can't. He can only
assume.
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DavidP said:
Well, since you said you used the 28-135 IS, the aperture was
clearly smaller than the f/1.8 Bill used in his shot.
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But it was the widest one the lens had and the images were focused. I keep reading how that's not possible or too difficult with the 10D yet I find that it's not that difficult. Of course, it would be easier with focusing aids but that's common sense. I did the test I did because, to me, that's the harder situation to focus on. What Bill did would be much easier for me. Focusing on the close up stuff where I'm right at the lens minimum focus distance and there's no room for error is the easiest situation.
DavidP #28649 said:
Changed the argument? Nah, I just let you set yourself up, that's
all. Just a slight tilt of the table from me was all it took.
LOL.
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Nah, you just make assumptions and work from there.
DavidP #28649 said:
And I'll bet you thought you had me.
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No, I'd never delude myself to thinking that. I just figure you'll snake your way out of admitting anything. LOL
 
I guess you might've missed the title of this thread and the first post. David's got a new playmate. ;-)
 
What you shot has a rather large DOF, making it easier to get in focus manually.

In Bill's shot, the image taped to the window wasn't THAT far out of the focus plane. Close enough that through the viewfinder it would've been hard to distinguish between it being in focus and the image 2" in front of it.
Pearl Rider said:
But it was the widest one the lens had and the images were focused.
I keep reading how that's not possible or too difficult with the
10D yet I find that it's not that difficult. Of course, it would be
easier with focusing aids but that's common sense. I did the test I
did because, to me, that's the harder situation to focus on. What
Bill did would be much easier for me. Focusing on the close up
stuff where I'm right at the lens minimum focus distance and
there's no room for error is the easiest situation.
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Extrapolation from few solid data points is best left to those with years of training and experience in such things.
 
Don't you mean to say that the 10D's AF doesn't work? LOL.
Louis4 said:
You can't focus your camera, you've illustrated that with pictures
before.
What about stopping the silly test shots and actually learning how
to take pictures now?
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Extrapolation from few solid data points is best left to those with years of training and experience in such things.
 
DavidP said:
What you shot has a rather large DOF, making it easier to get in
focus manually.

In Bill's shot, the image taped to the window wasn't THAT far out
of the focus plane. Close enough that through the viewfinder it
would've been hard to distinguish between it being in focus and the
image 2" in front of it.
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But the premise was that manual focus on the 10D was next to practically useless and I showed that's not the case. Now you change the meaning to keep your argument intact and now demand that manual focus be done differently so that, in your opinion, you have a greater chance of failing. Now if I did it using the same set up as Bill (which he didn't try to manually focus on anyway), you'd have another angle which keeps your argument intact. Like Jack said, you can't win. You're going to bash the 10D (and 300D) anyway you can. Period. Maybe people are starting to realize that you're just here for the sport.
 
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