Godox TTL remote lights compatible with any TTL transmitter?

Hi,

I'm asking about the TTL capable transmitters, to X1T, XPro (and presumably future transmitters, too).

I know that Witstro AD200, AD400 and AD600 are protocol agnostic. They will receive commands from any TTL-capable transmitter, will correctly fire the preflash and will adjust exposure.

I recently saw that this should be true for all Godox TTL products, assuming they are on current firmware because the transmitter handles everything when it comes to system specific TTL protocols. Supposedly they handle all translations of protocols and that the remote/receiver flashes are protocol agnostic.

Is that true?

Could I use AD180 II or AD360 II with Sony? (Or cross brand, so Nikon receiver with a Canon transmitter?) From the same source, I read that the only difference is the flash foot which is specific to Canon or Nikon, but that only applies in master mode, not in remote (and it's recommended that you avoid using them on camera anyway because of their bulk).

What about their speedlights? So, TT350x, TT685x, V350x or V860II? Suppose I have a Sony transmitter, can I take a Canon version, a Nikon version, set them to remote, add them to a group, and then get full TTL capability or did I misread that?

toughluck said:

Hi,

I'm asking about the TTL capable transmitters, to X1T, XPro (and presumably future transmitters, too).

I know that Witstro AD200, AD400 and AD600 are protocol agnostic. They will receive commands from any TTL-capable transmitter, will correctly fire the preflash and will adjust exposure.

I recently saw that this should be true for all Godox TTL products, assuming they are on current firmware because the transmitter handles everything when it comes to system specific TTL protocols. Supposedly they handle all translations of protocols and that the remote/receiver flashes are protocol agnostic.

Is that true?

Could I use AD180 II or AD360 II with Sony? (Or cross brand, so Nikon receiver with a Canon transmitter?) From the same source, I read that the only difference is the flash foot which is specific to Canon or Nikon, but that only applies in master mode, not in remote (and it's recommended that you avoid using them on camera anyway because of their bulk).

What about their speedlights? So, TT350x, TT685x, V350x or V860II? Suppose I have a Sony transmitter, can I take a Canon version, a Nikon version, set them to remote, add them to a group, and then get full TTL capability or did I misread that?

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Yes all 2.4Ghz (actually, I don't know about the TT350 & V350 lights) lights will operate with all 2.4GHz triggers. So a Canon V860II will work with a Nikon camera and support HSS and TTL.

Here's a good overview of the system http://flashhavoc.com/godox-flash-system-overview/

tugwilson said:

toughluck said:

Hi,

I'm asking about the TTL capable transmitters, to X1T, XPro (and presumably future transmitters, too).

I know that Witstro AD200, AD400 and AD600 are protocol agnostic. They will receive commands from any TTL-capable transmitter, will correctly fire the preflash and will adjust exposure.

I recently saw that this should be true for all Godox TTL products, assuming they are on current firmware because the transmitter handles everything when it comes to system specific TTL protocols. Supposedly they handle all translations of protocols and that the remote/receiver flashes are protocol agnostic.

Is that true?

Could I use AD180 II or AD360 II with Sony? (Or cross brand, so Nikon receiver with a Canon transmitter?) From the same source, I read that the only difference is the flash foot which is specific to Canon or Nikon, but that only applies in master mode, not in remote (and it's recommended that you avoid using them on camera anyway because of their bulk).

What about their speedlights? So, TT350x, TT685x, V350x or V860II? Suppose I have a Sony transmitter, can I take a Canon version, a Nikon version, set them to remote, add them to a group, and then get full TTL capability or did I misread that?

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Yes all 2.4Ghz (actually, I don't know about the TT350 & V350 lights) lights will operate with all 2.4GHz triggers. So a Canon V860II will work with a Nikon camera and support HSS and TTL.

Here's a good overview of the system http://flashhavoc.com/godox-flash-system-overview/

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That's the site where I read it. Thanks for the link. It's probably their best kept secret.

So the system works with any receiver as long as it's TTL capable. A tougher question, then: what about receivers for brand name flashes? If I had a Canon speedlight (or any off-brand speedlight) on an X1Rc receiver, will that work in TTL mode with Nikon, Sony, etc., or is that going too far?

One more thing, though... So, if it works with TTL

toughluck said:

... I recently saw that this should be true for all Godox TTL products, assuming they are on current firmware because the transmitter handles everything when it comes to system specific TTL protocols. Supposedly they handle all translations of protocols and that the remote/receiver flashes are protocol agnostic.

Is that true?

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It is, with the exception of the TT350/V350 and X1R receivers. These are not designed to do cross-brand TTL switching. Some folks have had luck with getting TTL/HSS with the TT350, but it appears to depend on the specific brands; I have not. My TT350-O cannot be used in TTL with my XPro-C or TT685C as a radio master. It will do HSS and power control.

Also, at this time Pentax TTL support is partial; the TT685 and AD360II do not yet have firmware updates to make them P-TTL compatible with Pentax (XPro-P). The V860II, AD200, AD400 Pro, AD600/AD600M, and AD600 Pro can be used in P-TTL.

toughluck said:

Could I use AD180 II or AD360 II with Sony?

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There is no AD180 II; the AD180 and AD360 (Mark I), if paired with an XTR16 receiver should be usable in HSS from an X1T-S or XPro-S, but cannot do TTL. And HSS must be set directly on the AD180/AD360.

The XTR16/XTR16s receivers and TT600/V850II, however, are not doing HSS with the XPro-F (Fuji) at this time, and will only do HSS with the X1T-F if the X1T-F is updated to v03 or later, and has C.Fn-11 set to 02 (or 01, reports differ from users).

An AD360II, if the firmware is up-to-date will work in TTL/HSS with an X1T-S or XPro-S.

toughluck said:

(Or cross brand, so Nikon receiver with a Canon transmitter?)

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As long as the transmitter matches the brand of the camera, and the receiver is built-in to a Godox light (not an X1R), and everything is firmware updated, aside from the caveats mentioned above, yes.

toughluck said:

From the same source, I read that the only difference is the flash foot which is specific to Canon or Nikon, but that only applies in master mode, not in remote (and it's recommended that you avoid using them on camera anyway because of their bulk).

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The difference also extends to the electronic protocol that flash foot communicates, and there are differences between the brand flavors in terms of display (e.g., the Nikon TT685/V860II will say "iTTL" or "RPT", where the Canon TT685/V860II will sy "eTTL" and "Multi". That sort of thing.

However, when used cross-brand, the TT685/V860II will also display which triggering protocol is being used. My TT685C will display "Canon" when used with my Xpro-C, "FUJI" when used with my Xpro-F, and "OLPS" when used with my Xpro-O:

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