Sigma 14-24 F2.8 First Impressions

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I have had this lens for less than a week but have had the chance to do many test chart and real world shots with it. I have posted many of these images here. My initial impression from the chart shots was not that great. The sharpness did not seem as high as I had seen in the reviews I have read. But, the evenness across the frame was very good and the ca's were remarkably low--as compared to my Sigma 24 1.4. When I took a shot with the sun off frame and saw the flare, I was leaning toward returning it. At 14mm, f 2.8:



At 14mm, f 8:



My 24 1.4 showed no flare (but it is a 24mm lens). At 24mm, the flare of the 14-24 was greatly reduced. These shots were of the wall not the chart. I wanted to see if the barrel distortion which was very high at close distance was less further out and that is the case. You can also see the vignette at f 2.8 and how it lifts at f 8.

These next two shots show barrel distortion before and after correction. The correction is my best effort. It is manual as Elements does not have any lens info and On1 has no info on this lens. I can save it as a preset in On1 but not in Elements. All of these shots are processed in Photoshop Elements 18. The second version was editied in DxO Filmpack 5 after distortion correction. At f 8.







The flare may be off putting, but the lens does better with the sun in the frame and I also like the sunstars:







I corrected for the slight ca's in the first but did no ca correction in the sunstar shot. Both my Sigma 24 1.4 and my Tamron 35 1.8 would show easily noticeable ca distortion in such backlit branches. There is some purple flare running off to the lower right. Not objectionable to me.

I was starting to have fun with the lens. I took a break at Antoinette's Bakery. Had a lemon tart. And, as I have done before, I took shots both with my phone and with the lens I had on hand. Here is one at the minimum focusing distance (which put me just inches away with the hood almost touching the plate). This is slightly cropped:



Here is a shot a little further back:

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Here is a shot using the 24 1.4 at an earlier time at 1.8. Being faster, it can blur the background more completely though that is not always desirable. I wish I took a picture of the lettering with the 14-24 as I did here, a much better target than meringue.



I stayed out late on my second day downtown and, after another stop at Antoinette's, tested out the bokeh circles:



I was surprised at the quality. They were nice and round with pretty smooth surfaces and a pretty negligible rim. Probably not important to most people, but I may go for shallow dof at any time.

The 14-24:



The 24 1.4. Not shot at the same time. The 24 required ca correction, the 14-24 did not. Both were sharpened to some degree.



One last one. Another brick wall shot with distortion correction. I used a vivid picture control rather than diving into DxO. Some ultra sharp mask applied. I shot it in live view to take advantage of the level indicator. I did that pretty often during the shoot. It does wear down the battery. I took shots both with the af and manually in live view during both the test chart series and the real world shots. I saw no difference in the results. I may do some more precise testing to see if I need to fine tune the lens with the dock.

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Any observations would be appreciated. I like using the lens. Most of my misgivings have fallen to the side. The lack of ca's is amazing to me. I don't know if the sharpness is quite as high as I thought it would be given that some say it is better than the Nikon version. The upper left corner seems a tad worse than the rest--less sharp and contrasty. My tendency so far is to add more sharpening than I do with the Sigma 24 prime. Maybe I am expecting too much. The barrel distortion at 14mm is correctible as is the vignetting at 2.8. The close focusing and bokeh are nice. I don't mind the weight. I did use a tripod for the alley shots and the camera was on a table in the bakery. The sunstars are nice and it does well with the sun in the frame. I can probably reduce the flare with a well placed hand. The build quality is amazing. The focus ring is huge and smooth.

I have until February to decide as B & H extended the period during the Christmas season. They also offered a nice $300 discount: $899. I will probably be so deep in taking pictures with it that I don't even notice when the return period ends. I will give it 4 stars right now with an option to update the score.

Thanks for reading and Happy Holidays and a great New Year!

Larry







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VC on the UW lens is not hugely important.
If I wanted to shoot slow motion waterfalls handheld, yeah, could come in handy, but I don't and I expect to use it on a tripod a good deal of the time. I will also shoot it handheld. While I don't think I am as steady as you, I am not bad and I think a weighty lens like this does help keep things steady.
Might remain an ongoing debate for a while. VC is relatively new to UWA. Argument being it may make difference between good shot and very good shot. Keep one or two stops lower ISO for example, higher DR, less noise. I haven’t fully formed my opinions yet, but decided to buy into the feature and give it a go.
Besides there is certain SS you can't just simply go beyond. The best I can do on 15-30 is 1/10. Maybe 1/5 if I did not have coffee all day. But I can also do 1/10 without VC on just less consistently. But I like having 30mm. And if Tamron or Sigma come out with 14-40mm F2.8 I would definitely buy it. Even 16-40mm would be fine with me.
That is not going to happen. Extending ultra wide angles into the midrange is a dicey proposal I think and getting it in at 2.8 even more so. Maybe ok for micro 4/3 where it is really a midrange. Sigma does make unorthodox fast zooms but with very narrow focal ranges. Like the 24-35. Anyway, my whole idea of going full frame was to shoot with primes. Apparently, the best laid plans . . .
He was not meaning high quality 14-40 f/2.8 or 16-40 will happen any time soon.
Why not? Sigma made high quality 60-600mm.
And they previously made a 50-500. Going from mid-range to telephoto is easier than going from ultrawide to mid-range. Not a transferrable concept.
Anything is possible these days. And if they make above lenses it wouldn't have to be sharp in the corners. These would be strictly PJ lenses.
I don't know what a pj lens is but Sigma makes nothing without intending to get things sharp edge to edge. Tamron just released the 28-75 for Sony and previously the 24-70 so they seem to think separate fast zooms for ultrawide and mid-range is ideal. They are more traditional in their designs. We have two basic divisions of uwa: 16/17-35 and 12/14-24. Tamron slides between but is still a 2x lens.
This I assume is about craving flexibility. BTW, I only have zooms. Couldn’t bear the prospect of interchanging among primes in any environment other than indoor studio, but especially for landscape. Too much sh*t gets into our DSLR’s! Yes, best laid plans...
I have zooms and primes but only use primes on special occasions if I know exactly where I am going and if I have flexibility of movement. For example recently I went to a bar to photograph a punk group on assignment. I took my Sigma 20mm F1.4, and 85mm F1.4. It was so dark that I could not see in front of me and only few colored lights were sometimes shined on the stage.
My kit varies. Lately, I take my 24 1.4, 35 1.8, and 70-300 vc a good deal of the time. Totally different if I am shooting flowers/macro. Have a 70 and a 180 for that. The 35 has nice close focusing, too. Hiking? Maybe just the 24 and the 28-300. I don't know how I will integrate the 14-24 into my kit yet. Not sure how the 24 will feel about it. I once shot a punk band with my 35. Worked out well. I like the 35 and my Moto Z phone for club stuff.
 
VC on the UW lens is not hugely important.
If I wanted to shoot slow motion waterfalls handheld, yeah, could come in handy, but I don't and I expect to use it on a tripod a good deal of the time. I will also shoot it handheld. While I don't think I am as steady as you, I am not bad and I think a weighty lens like this does help keep things steady.
Might remain an ongoing debate for a while. VC is relatively new to UWA. Argument being it may make difference between good shot and very good shot. Keep one or two stops lower ISO for example, higher DR, less noise. I haven’t fully formed my opinions yet, but decided to buy into the feature and give it a go.
Besides there is certain SS you can't just simply go beyond. The best I can do on 15-30 is 1/10. Maybe 1/5 if I did not have coffee all day. But I can also do 1/10 without VC on just less consistently. But I like having 30mm. And if Tamron or Sigma come out with 14-40mm F2.8 I would definitely buy it. Even 16-40mm would be fine with me.
That is not going to happen. Extending ultra wide angles into the midrange is a dicey proposal I think and getting it in at 2.8 even more so. Maybe ok for micro 4/3 where it is really a midrange. Sigma does make unorthodox fast zooms but with very narrow focal ranges. Like the 24-35. Anyway, my whole idea of going full frame was to shoot with primes. Apparently, the best laid plans . . .
He was not meaning high quality 14-40 f/2.8 or 16-40 will happen any time soon.
Why not? Sigma made high quality 60-600mm.
And they previously made a 50-500. Going from mid-range to telephoto is easier than going from ultrawide to mid-range. Not a transferrable concept.
Anything is possible these days. And if they make above lenses it wouldn't have to be sharp in the corners. These would be strictly PJ lenses.
I don't know what a pj lens is but Sigma makes nothing without intending to get things sharp edge to edge. Tamron just released the 28-75 for Sony and previously the 24-70 so they seem to think separate fast zooms for ultrawide and mid-range is ideal. They are more traditional in their designs. We have two basic divisions of uwa: 16/17-35 and 12/14-24. Tamron slides between but is still a 2x lens.
This I assume is about craving flexibility. BTW, I only have zooms. Couldn’t bear the prospect of interchanging among primes in any environment other than indoor studio, but especially for landscape. Too much sh*t gets into our DSLR’s! Yes, best laid plans...
I have zooms and primes but only use primes on special occasions if I know exactly where I am going and if I have flexibility of movement. For example recently I went to a bar to photograph a punk group on assignment. I took my Sigma 20mm F1.4, and 85mm F1.4. It was so dark that I could not see in front of me and only few colored lights were sometimes shined on the stage.
My kit varies. Lately, I take my 24 1.4, 35 1.8, and 70-300 vc a good deal of the time. Totally different if I am shooting flowers/macro. Have a 70 and a 180 for that. The 35 has nice close focusing, too. Hiking? Maybe just the 24 and the 28-300. I don't know how I will integrate the 14-24 into my kit yet. Not sure how the 24 will feel about it. I once shot a punk band with my 35. Worked out well. I like the 35 and my Moto Z phone for club stuff.
Merry Christmas people, it’s almost here! :-) in AZ that is...:-D
 
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Btw, seen a couple of threads on how the 14-24mm range becomes the “favorite least used lens”. For me that would be 70-200mm, so far that is. Well, not favorite, but least used.

:-) Merry Xmas!
 
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All sharpened to taste. Distortion correction on the street art and starburst shots. Minimal ca correction, none on the street art shot.





Stretching at 14mm clearly visible but expected at such an ultrawide focal length.











I uploaded all of the 14-24 pics at full quality to my gallery here and many are posted to my Flickr site.

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Got mine a few weeks before christmas

Amazing lens :) Got it EF mount adapted onto my Sony A7R3

 
With regards to stabilisation, the public largely still hasn't understood that stabilisation only buys you a percentage chance of a reasonably sharp shot every time you press the button. Hardly anybody wants to hear that the definition of "sharp" is not tripod sharp at 1:1, but reduced for screen display or web sharp. Which is not as good.

The manufacturers are partly to blame for this for stating stops of stabilisation. People prefer to hear the unrealistic hyperbole that the manufacturers have to offer than the statistical truth.

You can get impressive shutter speeds testing these lenses indoors by standing still and reeling off shot after shot but in the real world it is hard to get results that are as good.

I tried it with several ultrawides, like Canon 16-35, Tamron 15-30 and Sigma 10-20 on sensor stabilised systems. I found the percentage of keepers below 1/15s unacceptably low for 1:1. If I was keeping an eye on the images after I took them I would try 1/8s but have to often reshoot them. Yes, I can get shots at 1/5s but not reliably enough.
 
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Cool! Thanks for sharing the album. You are also experimenting with the close focus, shallow dof capacity of the lens. I see you also have the 24 1.4. Your thoughts about the prime and where you see it fitting into your kit now that you have the 14-24? Your images look pretty blue/cool. White balance choice or rendering of the camera/lens combo? I would think the images would be much warmer with the indoor lighting.
 
Sigma belgium has better 'start' prices then B&H (unlike nikon who has much worse starting prices), but the promotions, jut like Nikon are MUCH stronger in USA. 899 for this Sigma, ouch, i would buy in heartbeat.

I see you are pro Brev, so that explains the low resolution to protect your work. But to judge sharpness it's useless. The shot can be as boring as possible (but correctly exposed), as long as it's filled with far/close details, it's amazing to judge sharpness.

Congratz on your purchase :) It was great buy. Recently got the 50mm art for 720 euro instead of 859 and 5 year warranty (2 more then standard Sigma). Very sharp lens. now looking for a wide angle sharpness monster, but that seems a hard job. Only the 25mm Zeiss milvus seems to truly win this battle.
 
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With regards to stabilisation, the public largely still hasn't understood that stabilisation only buys you a percentage chance of a reasonably sharp shot every time you press the button. Hardly anybody wants to hear that the definition of "sharp" is not tripod sharp at 1:1, but reduced for screen display or web sharp. Which is not as good.
But, the percentage chance can be considerably improved especially using telephoto lenses in my experience. And, I am after more than screen display sharp as I do print, enlarge, and show my images (rarely for the third but always an aspiration). I don't like to speculate about mass behavior as I tend to distrust speculations and generalizations. Kind of demeans the individual and the smaller demographic groups, I think. In this case, I think you mean enthusiasts rather than the public as I think that is the subset concerned with stabilization (to generalize--breaking my own rules is my prerogative!).

I would love to be able to compare the performance of the 14-24 against the 15-30 VC G2 shutter speed for shutter speed. I have thought about renting the lens to make such and other comparisons. NIce that you have been able to do so. I have done a very brief test of slow shutter shots. I could get a decent percentage of shots with my Tammy 70-300 vc at 1/15 and 300mm while I have not done as well with the ultrawide--kinda like shooting at 1/40 and not requiring my absolute stillness or the absolute stillness of the environment. I work outside most of the time and live in Oklahoma. The song is not wrong about the wind. Shooting handheld slow shutter shots with this lens is not a priority of mine. I have a tripod for that. Plus, I feel the real benefit of the Tammy vc has been stabilizing the viewfinder so I actually get the point of focus and framing that I want. I tested the Sigma 100-400 against the Tamron version a few months ago. I found the Sigma sharper but I could not get the framing I wanted as I did with the Tamron at 400mm. Some have suggested using the dock to change the os mode, but I was at a camera shop at the time using one of their lenses. With the heavy 14-24, I am able to keep the framing yet not without a slight blur at slow shutter speeds. When my requirement is just online sharing or if I am not hung up on perfection, my shutter speed can probably drop considerably--as you noted.
The manufacturers are partly to blame for this for stating stops of stabilisation. People prefer to hear the unrealistic hyperbole that the manufacturers have to offer than the statistical truth.

You can get impressive shutter speeds testing these lenses indoors by standing still and reeling off shot after shot but in the real world it is hard to get results that are as good.

I tried it with several ultrawides, like Canon 16-35, Tamron 15-30 and Sigma 10-20 on sensor stabilised systems. I found the percentage of keepers below 1/15s unacceptably low for 1:1. If I was keeping an eye on the images after I took them I would try 1/8s but have to often reshoot them. Yes, I can get shots at 1/5s but not reliably enough.
Reliably is a key. I like to get what I want with one shot so taking numerous shots to get one nice result is not at all desirable for me. I want to be able to rely on a certain shutter speed for good results and will up the iso if necessary to get it. One of the biggest advantages I have seen moving from film to digital is being able to shoot above 400 iso with fine image quality as well as being able to adjust it on the fly. I will look to Manfrotto and not pine for vc if I want slow shuttter speeds (unless I do rent the 15-30 and decide I must have it!)
 
I don't think you need be jealous with a Sigma 14-24. I'm with digitalcameraworld on the 15-30:
"Image quality is mostly similar to that of the original lens. Sharpness is impressive at the centre of the frame but comparatively lacklustre towards the edges and corners, unless you stop down to f/5.6 though most of the zoom range, and f/8 at the long end. Those are the findings of our lab tests but, in real-world testing, we often found the Tamron to be quite soft across the whole frame when shooting wide-open at f/2.8. The Sigma 14-24mm f/2.8 lens is superior in this respect."
The Tamron is really a very convenient 15.7mm-30mm, not a true 15mm. If you want to trade that much on the wide end and sharpness to get stabilisation, better flare and backlit fringing resistance then go ahead. The Tamron bokeh is messy inside if that matters to you.
 
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With regards to stabilisation, the public largely still hasn't understood that stabilisation only buys you a percentage chance of a reasonably sharp shot every time you press the button. Hardly anybody wants to hear that the definition of "sharp" is not tripod sharp at 1:1, but reduced for screen display or web sharp. Which is not as good.
But, the percentage chance can be considerably improved especially using telephoto lenses in my experience. And, I am after more than screen display sharp as I do print, enlarge, and show my images (rarely for the third but always an aspiration). I don't like to speculate about mass behavior as I tend to distrust speculations and generalizations. Kind of demeans the individual and the smaller demographic groups, I think. In this case, I think you mean enthusiasts rather than the public as I think that is the subset concerned with stabilization (to generalize--breaking my own rules is my prerogative!).

I would love to be able to compare the performance of the 14-24 against the 15-30 VC G2 shutter speed for shutter speed. I have thought about renting the lens to make such and other comparisons. NIce that you have been able to do so. I have done a very brief test of slow shutter shots. I could get a decent percentage of shots with my Tammy 70-300 vc at 1/15 and 300mm while I have not done as well with the ultrawide--kinda like shooting at 1/40 and not requiring my absolute stillness or the absolute stillness of the environment. I work outside most of the time and live in Oklahoma. The song is not wrong about the wind. Shooting handheld slow shutter shots with this lens is not a priority of mine. I have a tripod for that. Plus, I feel the real benefit of the Tammy vc has been stabilizing the viewfinder so I actually get the point of focus and framing that I want. I tested the Sigma 100-400 against the Tamron version a few months ago. I found the Sigma sharper but I could not get the framing I wanted as I did with the Tamron at 400mm. Some have suggested using the dock to change the os mode, but I was at a camera shop at the time using one of their lenses. With the heavy 14-24, I am able to keep the framing yet not without a slight blur at slow shutter speeds. When my requirement is just online sharing or if I am not hung up on perfection, my shutter speed can probably drop considerably--as you noted.
The manufacturers are partly to blame for this for stating stops of stabilisation. People prefer to hear the unrealistic hyperbole that the manufacturers have to offer than the statistical truth.

You can get impressive shutter speeds testing these lenses indoors by standing still and reeling off shot after shot but in the real world it is hard to get results that are as good.

I tried it with several ultrawides, like Canon 16-35, Tamron 15-30 and Sigma 10-20 on sensor stabilised systems. I found the percentage of keepers below 1/15s unacceptably low for 1:1. If I was keeping an eye on the images after I took them I would try 1/8s but have to often reshoot them. Yes, I can get shots at 1/5s but not reliably enough.
Reliably is a key. I like to get what I want with one shot so taking numerous shots to get one nice result is not at all desirable for me. I want to be able to rely on a certain shutter speed for good results and will up the iso if necessary to get it. One of the biggest advantages I have seen moving from film to digital is being able to shoot above 400 iso with fine image quality as well as being able to adjust it on the fly. I will look to Manfrotto and not pine for vc if I want slow shuttter speeds (unless I do rent the 15-30 and decide I must have it!)
So, I haven’t spent a lot of time testing the VC on my Tamron 15-30 G2, but here are a couple of examples taken at dusk, ISO 64, 1/13th of a second. These are two consecutive handheld shots, one at 15mm and one at 24mm. It was freezing cold and I was getting tired after a full day shooting - and generally I don’t have the most steady hands. I did not fire off a series of shots to increase my chances of getting a “keeper”, just couple of single shots of this scene (not necessarily my favorite images from the day). I was quite pleased with the sharpness of these results, but would have had to take same pictures with VC off to make any sort of qualitative comparison.



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I don't think you need be jealous with a Sigma 14-24. I'm with digitalcameraworld:
"Image quality is mostly similar to that of the original lens. Sharpness is impressive at the centre of the frame but comparatively lacklustre towards the edges and corners, unless you stop down to f/5.6 though most of the zoom range, and f/8 at the long end. Those are the findings of our lab tests but, in real-world testing, we often found the Tamron to be quite soft across the whole frame when shooting wide-open at f/2.8. The Sigma 14-24mm f/2.8 lens is superior in this respect."
I have read similar takes in some reviews. Dustin Abbott sees it a little closer, especially with the G2, but still favors the 14-24 for sheer image quality. But, as is reality's wont, there are those who disagree finding certain flaws in the 14-24 in terms of astigmatism and unnevenness of performance in the overall frame (CameraLabs) thus suggesting that the lens is best stopped down. That is why I may rent the G2. To see for me! (Unlikely as getting the discount is one thing that makes this purchase zing.)
The Tamron is really a very convenient 15.7mm-30mm, not a true 15mm.
That is a true pro for the Sigma. Really important as I do prioritize the wide side over the long and the Tamron reportedly has a good deal of distortion at 15 which might make the wide side even narrower in practice--due to correction as well as avoiding it).
If you want to trade that much on the wide end and sharpness and
bokeh quality
Don't want to lose that!
to get stabilisation and better flare
and backlit fringing resistance
Not so sure about that. The fringing in the Sigma was almost invisible in my testing.
then go ahead.
You make a convincing case. Have you owned both? I actually prefer to read a shooter's own experience over lab tests and my own experience is the best of all! I think I may even prefer the absence of vc. I like relying on myself. Sometimes. Maybe one day AI will take over the whole act of shooting and I can just send my camera out into the world to farm some images for me.
 
These are pretty shots and well worth your use of vc to capture them. But, they don't seem to capture the texture of the rocks very well. I think a tripod is still better than vc in many cases though may not have been possible to set up a tripod given your location at the time. And, taking a tripod on a hike may not be your cup of tea. Perhaps raising the iso for a faster shutter speed may have gotten a better result with or without vc.
 
These are pretty shots and well worth your use of vc to capture them. But, they don't seem to capture the texture of the rocks very well. I think a tripod is still better than vc in many cases though may not have been possible to set up a tripod given your location at the time. And, taking a tripod on a hike may not be your cup of tea. Perhaps raising the iso for a faster shutter speed may have gotten a better result with or without vc.
On that very subject I caved in and increased my ISO to 200 directly after taking these shots. Example below.

Yeah, I did have a tripod with me, but was too tired and cold to start fiddling with it at that time. Was starting to think about a warm hotel room, a whiskey and reviewing my images on iPad :-)



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I don't think you need be jealous with a Sigma 14-24. I'm with digitalcameraworld:
"Image quality is mostly similar to that of the original lens. Sharpness is impressive at the centre of the frame but comparatively lacklustre towards the edges and corners, unless you stop down to f/5.6 though most of the zoom range, and f/8 at the long end. Those are the findings of our lab tests but, in real-world testing, we often found the Tamron to be quite soft across the whole frame when shooting wide-open at f/2.8. The Sigma 14-24mm f/2.8 lens is superior in this respect."
I have read similar takes in some reviews. Dustin Abbott sees it a little closer, especially with the G2, but still favors the 14-24 for sheer image quality. But, as is reality's wont, there are those who disagree finding certain flaws in the 14-24 in terms of astigmatism and unnevenness of performance in the overall frame (CameraLabs) thus suggesting that the lens is best stopped down. That is why I may rent the G2. To see for me! (Unlikely as getting the discount is one thing that makes this purchase zing.)
The Tamron is really a very convenient 15.7mm-30mm, not a true 15mm.
That is a true pro for the Sigma. Really important as I do prioritize the wide side over the long and the Tamron reportedly has a good deal of distortion at 15 which might make the wide side even narrower in practice--due to correction as well as avoiding it).
If you want to trade that much on the wide end and sharpness and

bokeh quality
Don't want to lose that!
to get stabilisation and better flare

and backlit fringing resistance
Not so sure about that. The fringing in the Sigma was almost invisible in my testing.
then go ahead.
You make a convincing case. Have you owned both? I actually prefer to read a shooter's own experience over lab tests and my own experience is the best of all! I think I may even prefer the absence of vc. I like relying on myself. Sometimes. Maybe one day AI will take over the whole act of shooting and I can just send my camera out into the world to farm some images for me.
For those that own a Sigma 14-24 f/2.8 have any of you run into any AF related issues? This is one reason I’ve stayed clear of Sigma so far just due to apparent prevalence of complaints about AF and AF consistency issues. For example I really wanted to try the 18-35mm f/1.8 for my D500, but apparently only central AF point works with D500 and many report focus consistency issues (saying though that when you do get good focus the IQ is outstanding). I read at least one review for the 14-24mm reporting focus consistency issues. I’ll see if I can find the link and post it here later.

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These are pretty shots and well worth your use of vc to capture them. But, they don't seem to capture the texture of the rocks very well. I think a tripod is still better than vc in many cases though may not have been possible to set up a tripod given your location at the time. And, taking a tripod on a hike may not be your cup of tea. Perhaps raising the iso for a faster shutter speed may have gotten a better result with or without vc.
On that very subject I caved in and increased my ISO to 200 directly after taking these shots. Example below.
Caved? You make me feel like a wild man with my iso settings! I mean, I go all the way to iso 800 sometimes!
Yeah, I did have a tripod with me, but was too tired and cold to start fiddling with it at that time. Was starting to think about a warm hotel room, a whiskey and reviewing my images on iPad :-)
That brings up a very important point for me. I really enjoy being out in nature and the act of taking photographs. When that enjoyment lessens, it is time to close up shop and head to other pleasures.
A lot more texture here. I notice that you dropped down to f 5.6. Perhaps you focused more directly on the rocks as they definitely show more detail. Plus, the foreground is now showing a lot of oof blur. The clarity was more consistent in the other shots. I like this one a lot. Too bad no one volunteered to stand on the edge of the outcropping. :-D Maybe warm it up a bit, especially the near snow.

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For those that own a Sigma 14-24 f/2.8 have any of you run into any AF related issues? This is one reason I’ve stayed clear of Sigma so far just due to apparent prevalence of complaints about AF and AF consistency issues. For example I really wanted to try the 18-35mm f/1.8 for my D500, but apparently only central AF point works with D500 and many report focus consistency issues (saying though that when you do get good focus the IQ is outstanding). I read at least one review for the 14-24mm reporting focus consistency issues. I’ll see if I can find the link and post it here later.
No problems here and my Sigma 24 1.4 is outstanding in this regard. I believe Sigma has improved its af performance over time. The 35 and the 18-35 were two of their earlier efforts and I have seen many reports of inconsistent af with them. Also, one usually sees many more negatives than positives in online comments. I also own the old Sigma 70 and its af is right on point which really helps show off its ridiculous sharpness. My 17-70 pre C was also very accurate and consistent. Part of Sigma's learning curve with their new breed of lenses I think.

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These are pretty shots and well worth your use of vc to capture them. But, they don't seem to capture the texture of the rocks very well. I think a tripod is still better than vc in many cases though may not have been possible to set up a tripod given your location at the time. And, taking a tripod on a hike may not be your cup of tea. Perhaps raising the iso for a faster shutter speed may have gotten a better result with or without vc.
On that very subject I caved in and increased my ISO to 200 directly after taking these shots. Example below.
Caved? You make me feel like a wild man with my iso settings! I mean, I go all the way to iso 800 sometimes!
Yeah, I did have a tripod with me, but was too tired and cold to start fiddling with it at that time. Was starting to think about a warm hotel room, a whiskey and reviewing my images on iPad :-)
That brings up a very important point for me. I really enjoy being out in nature and the act of taking photographs. When that enjoyment lessens, it is time to close up shop and head to other pleasures.
A lot more texture here. I notice that you dropped down to f 5.6. Perhaps you focused more directly on the rocks as they definitely show more detail. Plus, the foreground is now showing a lot of oof blur. The clarity was more consistent in the other shots. I like this one a lot. Too bad no one volunteered to stand on the edge of the outcropping. :-D Maybe warm it up a bit, especially the near snow.
Appreciate the feedback. Still learning to use a DSLR after a longer break from photography of about 15 years, previously only 35mm film based SLR experience :-).
 
It's probably time I did a stabilised v non stabilised walkaround with a high resolution body. Because my later escapades were with high MP bodies and also stabilisation, and you can't get away with as much on high MP bodies. Who knows, I might be able to get away with 1/8s much of the time on 12MP bodies but only 1/15s on 36MP ones.

I assumed the kind of person who is fussy enough to get a $1000+ lens for landscape would not be satisfied with a rough and ready standard. If you want to submit such photos to stock sites or galleries, I don't see why you would take the risk of hand-holding the camera anyway.

Another use for ultrawides is shooting buildings without needing to tilt the camera upwards and then you can do a good correction of verticals in software. If you end up needing to tilt the camera upwards then the correction is not so perfect and experts can guess you didn't have a shift lens. Since shift lenses are clunky and not so cheap an ultrawide can be a handy stand-in at the cost of some resolution because you lose some of the frame when you have to crop after the warp.
 
Sigma belgium has better 'start' prices then B&H (unlike nikon who has much worse starting prices), but the promotions, jut like Nikon are MUCH stronger in USA. 899 for this Sigma, ouch, i would buy in heartbeat.

I see you are pro Brev, so that explains the low resolution to protect your work. But to judge sharpness it's useless. The shot can be as boring as possible (but correctly exposed), as long as it's filled with far/close details, it's amazing to judge sharpness.
I am not worried about sharing full size photos on this site and am not a pro. I posted larger versions than is my norm, but, since they are not sufficiently large, I will post several full size and quality images below.
Congratz on your purchase :) It was great buy.
Happy that you can confirm this! And, thanks for your thoughts.
Recently got the 50mm art for 720 euro instead of 859 and 5 year warranty (2 more then standard Sigma). Very sharp lens. now looking for a wide angle sharpness monster, but that seems a hard job. Only the 25mm Zeiss milvus seems to truly win this battle.
One day, I may have ambitions for such monster sharpness. Here are the pics:

No sharpening/post ACR editing:

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Just raw conversion:

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Two images not previously shared, both edited:

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Thanks for looking. I am thoroughly enjoying the discussions on this thread.



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