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I'm selling my X-H1 and I'm upgrading back to X-T1, and a X10 while at it. No more new cameras for me. I'm done!

As much as I like many of the newer qualities of the X-H1 all these new sensors are simply not working out for me. My wife doesn't like the new stuff either and that goes for all the other camera manufacturers we have looked at. The IQ is nice and all and is not that is bad but we simply prefer the way the 16MP sensors look and behave in PP. All these new stuff simply retain too much detail and we don't like that. And is not a matter of simply "adding" noise, is just that the look is a bit different and some of the color tones are different as well.

Therefore I'm selling my X-H1 and I'll be buying two X-T1 bodies with much less expensive battery grips. I won't be buying any new Nikon stuff either and I'm simply going to stay with the D4 until these puppies become absolete and no more parts are available :-)

As for the X10 I was going thru some of the images I took with it and I swear to God that the color output out of those things is simply gorgeous and honestly it was a mistake from my part to get rid of it thinking that the latest stuff is "superior" and honestly guys I'm very sorry to say this but I have not been fully happy with the latest Fuji IQ and I prefer their old stuff so I will be re-purchasing 16MP sensors and under. I have nothing light for traveling/fun so the X10 is coming back home.

Thank you.











 
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I'm with you on this. I'm still getting good mileage out of my X-T1. And I'm in the fortunate position of being able to sell and have my pics published from time to time (although there's no danger of me being able to give up my day job any time soon.)

Nevertheless, I'm grateful to the gearhounds who keep chasing the next greatest model at every new release, they help keep the companies that make these great cameras in business.
 
Bold move, but I understand it. I had a massive GAS problem with camera bodies since I started this hobby. I think it mostly got cured the moment I ended up buying one of the Fuji bodies I had wanted from the beginning. Now, I feel that it doesn't really matter anymore. (I wish I were cured of my GAS for lenses too, though it seems that will take a while). I've never held the X-H1 or even seen it up close, but it always felt wrong to me as a Fujifilm camera. Can't put my finger on what exactly it is that bothers me.

If you're happy with the X-T1, it's the wisest decision to upgrade to it.
 
I'm with you! Started with an X-E1, and now have an X-T1 and X-T10, with which I'm perfectly happy. Given I started photography when focussing was manual, zooms were of suspect quality and motor drives were purely for the sports pros, I can cope with my cameras' less than cutting edge AF.

As for the X10, that was my intro to Fuji. My wife inherited it from me once I got the XE-1, so more recently I bought an X30 for the times when convenience, zoom range and size are more important than sensor area.

But, folks, as someone else said, I'd be grateful if the rest of you would feed your GAS, and keep letting older models flood the s/h market at great prices! ;-)

Stuart
 
Thank you! What a refreshing post to read, and backed up with some really nice shots.

I'm currently selling my 60D to be replaced with an X-T2 but I would be happy with an X-T1 (since I'm really happy with the image quality of my X100T) if it had in camera charging.

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Ok.
 
You have to go with what makes you happy. 👍🏻
 
I think in any starry eyed retro view on Fuji we should remember the awful video and the occasional waxy faces and my XT100 is a great improvement in this respect over the X10. Also focus probably has improved by the sound of things.

Could there be a touch of major GAS followed by a rebound to equal retro over reaction to GAS going on in this thread with people only able to exist at the edges of the swing of a large pendulum?
 
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Amen.

Fully agree, I see no need to upgrade my Xpro1 and X100T, still in perfect working condition and takes lovely photos.

As a amateur photographer and sometimes not using my gear for months I can justify to myself having my gear, which for most parts were bought 2nd hand.

I am the camera manufacturers worst nightmare, haha
 
I plan on keeping my x e2 (16mp) for awhile. I think I’d pick up a 2nd one to shoot 2 bodies again before a direct upgrade. Though at the moment I’m considering upgrading to some better lenses....this forum wears on you haha.

It does have a nice look. I was already on 24 mp on Nikon crop like 5 years ago with the d7100 sensor.... have switched to canon now Fuji since then. Not a bad sensor but I think the Fuji looks better for high iso and people, which is more of my thing over pulling shadows and making vivid landscapes or wildlife or something, which that sensor might lend better to.
 
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I still have my XT-1 and 18-135, purchased about 6 months after they first came out. I have since added a 10-24.

I love the colours and the quality.

I did think about upgrading to an XT-2, but to be honest, there is still so much more that I can get out of the XT-1, that I don't feel such a move is justified.

My ex-wife and kids all use their smartphones, but when it comes to family events - it is always "Bring your camera - the pictures are so much better" - which says it all really.
 
Batdude said:
I'm selling my X-H1 and I'm upgrading back to X-T1, and a X10 while at it. No more new cameras for me. I'm done!

As much as I like many of the newer qualities of the X-H1 all these new sensors are simply not working out for me. My wife doesn't like the new stuff either and that goes for all the other camera manufacturers we have looked at. The IQ is nice and all and is not that is bad but we simply prefer the way the 16MP sensors look and behave in PP. All these new stuff simply retain too much detail and we don't like that. And is not a matter of simply "adding" noise, is just that the look is a bit different and some of the color tones are different as well.

Therefore I'm selling my X-H1 and I'll be buying two X-T1 bodies with much less expensive battery grips. I won't be buying any new Nikon stuff either and I'm simply going to stay with the D4 until these puppies become absolete and no more parts are available :-)

As for the X10 I was going thru some of the images I took with it and I swear to God that the color output out of those things is simply gorgeous and honestly it was a mistake from my part to get rid of it thinking that the latest stuff is "superior" and honestly guys I'm very sorry to say this but I have not been fully happy with the latest Fuji IQ and I prefer their old stuff so I will be re-purchasing 16MP sensors and under. I have nothing light for traveling/fun so the X10 is coming back home.

Thank you.











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Think I need to look closer. Just got xh1 and am looking the handling and AF. Alot higher hit rate than xt1. Xt1 is good for slow moving subjects.. For faster subjects xh1 is wonderful.

But image wise I though they were the same besides pixel count.. Am glad I kept my xt1 after seeing ur pose. 😊

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"All these new stuff simply retain too much detail and we don't like that."

:-O
 
Bat,

I don't get it. Makes no sense to me. The XT-1 was a great camera in its time and started the whole Fuji ergo ball rolling. I loved my XT-1. But the XT-2 is immensely better and the XH-1 added much-needed IBIS and is the best of all. The XT-3 compared to the XT-1 is no comparison at all. It is a joke to compare them.

I can't wait for the XH-2.

Sure, GAS is fun and buying new gear is part of the game if you can afford it. But digital cameras get better, not worse. That's like saying you like the look on the screen of a 5 year-old laptop. No way man. That 5 year-old laptop is grossly obsolete. So is the XT-1.

I can't imagine still shooting the XT-1. It is far inferior in so many ways, and no way - absolutely no way - are the images better in any way whatsoever.

As far as the images being better to deal with in post on the XT-2? No way. Absolutely no way. That was an amazing statement of non-fact. Pure artistic nuance in some kind of weird way.

I shot the XT-1 as much as anyone on Earth. I loved it. But for you guys to say it is better than the XT-2 is preposterous. Amazing really.

You may be making some kind of anti-marketing statement or satisfying yourself that you are going back to your roots. Whatever.

But I don't buy for one second that nonsense about the images on the XT-1 being better.

You have your reasons. People do what they want to do. You do it. Glad you love the XT-1, but it is not better than later generations. No way. Not even close.

You want less IQ and detail because you like the look? Whatever....

I think you are seeing and imagining things if you think the XT-1 is better. It is not. No way.

By the way -- that surfboard image is really good. The kind of shooting you do benefits greatly from the better sensor of the XT-2 and will improve even more with future generations of sensors, chips, ASSF and IBIS. Yes, your kind of shooting would also benefit from IBIS. Greatly. A lot. Mucho.

If you want to freeze yourself to the first generation of Fuji sensors in this electronic age in order to make some kind of artistic statement, go ahead. But it is false to say that XT-1 sensor is in any way better than the newer sensors or that some kind of special magic or gritty look is gone. No way Man. Maybe you are looking for some kind of artistic niche or making a statement, like those dudes that use box pinhole cameras on a wooden tripod.

Hey, but good luck and keep on shooting. I never touched my XT-1 after I shot one image with the XT-2. I never touched the XT-2 after shooting one shot with the XH-1.

You know why? Because they newer models were immensely (not just a little bit) better.

I started to say you have lost your mind, but then I remember this is "art" and in the world of "art" all kinds of weird stuff happens.

Good luck and keep us posted.

Greg Johnson, San Antonio, Texas
https://www.flickr.com/photos/139148982@N02/albums
 
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I am pretty much with you. I find the 16MP sensors are the sweet spot for my usage. I don't print large and for screen based viewing, 16MP is perfect.

I actually got rid of all my 24MP Nikon DX gear and decided to stick with the Fuji. I am still in love with my X-E2, love the results and the form factor - and they can be picked up for relative peanuts these days.

In fact I still give my original X100 quite a lot of use when I want to travel light, and find the 12MP images from that are still very usable even today.
 
EnglishSteve said:
I am pretty much with you. I find the 16MP sensors are the sweet spot for my usage. I don't print large and for screen based viewing, 16MP is perfect.

I actually got rid of all my 24MP Nikon DX gear and decided to stick with the Fuji. I am still in love with my X-E2, love the results and the form factor - and they can be picked up for relative peanuts these days.

In fact I still give my original X100 quite a lot of use when I want to travel light, and find the 12MP images from that are still very usable even today.
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16mp is good size. I would prefer a new 16mp sensor on a xh1L for e.g. Don't need greater pixel count but would much prefer better low light capabilities.
 
Greg7579 said:
Bat,

I don't get it. Makes no sense to me. The XT-1 was a great camera in its time and started the whole Fuji ergo ball rolling. I loved my XT-1. But the XT-2 is immensely better and the XH-1 added much-needed IBIS and is the best of all. The XT-3 compared to the XT-1 is no comparison at all. It is a joke to compare them.

I can't wait for the XH-2.

Sure, GAS is fun and buying new gear is part of the game if you can afford it. But digital cameras get better, not worse. That's like saying you like the look on the screen of a 5 year-old laptop. No way man. That 5 year-old laptop is grossly obsolete. So is the XT-1.

I can't imagine still shooting the XT-1. It is far inferior in so many ways, and no way - absolutely no way - are the images better in any way whatsoever.

As far as the images being better to deal with in post on the XT-2? No way. Absolutely no way. That was an amazing statement of non-fact. Pure artistic nuance in some kind of weird way.

I shot the XT-1 as much as anyone on Earth. I loved it. But for you guys to say it is better than the XT-2 is preposterous. Amazing really.

You may be making some kind of anti-marketing statement or satisfying yourself that you are going back to your roots. Whatever.

But I don't buy for one second that nonsense about the images on the XT-1 being better.

You have your reasons. People do what they want to do. You do it. Glad you love the XT-1, but it is not better than later generations. No way. Not even close.

You want less IQ and detail because you like the look? Whatever....

I think you are seeing and imagining things if you think the XT-1 is better. It is not. No way.

By the way -- that surfboard image is really good. The kind of shooting you do benefits greatly from the better sensor of the XT-2 and will improve even more with future generations of sensors, chips, ASSF and IBIS. Yes, your kind of shooting would also benefit from IBIS. Greatly. A lot. Mucho.

If you want to freeze yourself to the first generation of Fuji sensors in this electronic age in order to make some kind of artistic statement, go ahead. But it is false to say that XT-1 sensor is in any way better than the newer sensors or that some kind of special magic or gritty look is gone. No way Man. Maybe you are looking for some kind of artistic niche or making a statement, like those dudes that use box pinhole cameras on a wooden tripod.

Hey, but good luck and keep on shooting. I never touched my XT-1 after I shot one image with the XT-2. I never touched the XT-2 after shooting one shot with the XH-1.

You know why? Because they newer models were immensely (not just a little bit) better.

I started to say you have lost your mind, but then I remember this is "art" and in the world of "art" all kinds of weird stuff happens.

Good luck and keep us posted.

Greg Johnson, San Antonio, Texas
https://www.flickr.com/photos/139148982@N02/albums
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I do think that he wasn't suggesting the X-T1 was better in any way. My understanding is that, just like I am happy with my X-T2 and wouldn't upgrade to an X-T3 unless it were for free, that he can do his kind of photography with an X-T1 instead of a newer camera. I guess if he likes shooting static subjects and manual focus, he doesn't really care about AF performance, and if he also doesn't care about IBIS and doesn't print his images, then the X-T1 can do his job just fine.

I think that is a fair statement. You see, I love the abilities of the X-T2 I have. It's simply the most amazing piece of equipment I've ever held in my hands. It took me 2 years of dreaming to own it before being able to afford it. And I'm sure that having an X-T3 in my hands would feel even better. The real question is whether it does make any difference in the kind of photography I - stressing the I - shoot.

He may indeed not need anything more than an X-T1. It may make way more sense to own two X-T1 bodies and better lenses than one X-H1 or one X-T3 body and fewer or worse lenses, to him.
 
Greg7579 said:
Bat,

I don't get it. Makes no sense to me. The XT-1 was a great camera in its time and started the whole Fuji ergo ball rolling. I loved my XT-1. But the XT-2 is immensely better and the XH-1 added much-needed IBIS and is the best of all. The XT-3 compared to the XT-1 is no comparison at all. It is a joke to compare them.

I can't wait for the XH-2.

Sure, GAS is fun and buying new gear is part of the game if you can afford it. But digital cameras get better, not worse. That's like saying you like the look on the screen of a 5 year-old laptop. No way man. That 5 year-old laptop is grossly obsolete. So is the XT-1.

I can't imagine still shooting the XT-1. It is far inferior in so many ways, and no way - absolutely no way - are the images better in any way whatsoever.

As far as the images being better to deal with in post on the XT-2? No way. Absolutely no way. That was an amazing statement of non-fact. Pure artistic nuance in some kind of weird way.

I shot the XT-1 as much as anyone on Earth. I loved it. But for you guys to say it is better than the XT-2 is preposterous. Amazing really.

You may be making some kind of anti-marketing statement or satisfying yourself that you are going back to your roots. Whatever.

But I don't buy for one second that nonsense about the images on the XT-1 being better.

You have your reasons. People do what they want to do. You do it. Glad you love the XT-1, but it is not better than later generations. No way. Not even close.

You want less IQ and detail because you like the look? Whatever....

I think you are seeing and imagining things if you think the XT-1 is better. It is not. No way.

By the way -- that surfboard image is really good. The kind of shooting you do benefits greatly from the better sensor of the XT-2 and will improve even more with future generations of sensors, chips, ASSF and IBIS. Yes, your kind of shooting would also benefit from IBIS. Greatly. A lot. Mucho.

If you want to freeze yourself to the first generation of Fuji sensors in this electronic age in order to make some kind of artistic statement, go ahead. But it is false to say that XT-1 sensor is in any way better than the newer sensors or that some kind of special magic or gritty look is gone. No way Man. Maybe you are looking for some kind of artistic niche or making a statement, like those dudes that use box pinhole cameras on a wooden tripod.

Hey, but good luck and keep on shooting. I never touched my XT-1 after I shot one image with the XT-2. I never touched the XT-2 after shooting one shot with the XH-1.

You know why? Because they newer models were immensely (not just a little bit) better.

I started to say you have lost your mind, but then I remember this is "art" and in the world of "art" all kinds of weird stuff happens.

Good luck and keep us posted.

Greg Johnson, San Antonio, Texas
https://www.flickr.com/photos/139148982@N02/albums
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IBIS sounds so wonderful when you talk 😍. Truth is I haven't missed it one single day since I left Pentax and I don't want to start paying for it now.
 
guzzi850m2 said:
Amen.

Fully agree, I see no need to upgrade my Xpro1 and X100T, still in perfect working condition and takes lovely photos.

As a amateur photographer and sometimes not using my gear for months I can justify to myself having my gear, which for most parts were bought 2nd hand.

I am the camera manufacturers worst nightmare, haha
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Guzzi,

OK. I get you totally. What you say is entirely sensible.

Read my reply to Bat.

I'm not saying that people have to upgrade on each new model release (or ever). I'm not saying that the older models aren't good. (I loved my XT-1 five years ago all the way up to the XT-2 release.)

What I'm saying is, it is strange to upgrade and then sell it all and actually go back to an older far inferior model and generation and say that you did so because it was better than the new model. No way.

The XT-1 is in no way better that the XT-2 and certainly in no way better than the XT-3.

To say so is preposterous.

That is pure artistic dream-world kind of surreal alternative universe stuff. But whatever. Go for it Bat.

Greg Johnson, San Antonio, Texas

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