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Significant progress in sensors may favor 1", APS-C and M43 cameras
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bclaff
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Actually, FWIW, you can see "Engineering" Dynamic Range (EDR) on the Input-referred Read Noise chart (by clicking on the camera in the legend).
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Jon555
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Didn't know that, excellent!
A question, why is the ISO 100 saturation so different to the full well capacity at:
http://www.photonstophotos.net/Charts/Sensor_Characteristics.htm
Panasonic Lumix DMC-GH4 Full Well 26,473
Panasonic Lumix DC-GH5 Full Well 32,340
vs
Panasonic Lumix DMC-GH4_12 ISO 100 Sat 21,642
Panasonic Lumix DC-GH5_12 ISO 100 Sat 18,182
Thanks
P.S. Any chance of having multiple pop-ups (or just 2) for comparison?
A question, why is the ISO 100 saturation so different to the full well capacity at:
http://www.photonstophotos.net/Charts/Sensor_Characteristics.htm
Panasonic Lumix DMC-GH4 Full Well 26,473
Panasonic Lumix DC-GH5 Full Well 32,340
vs
Panasonic Lumix DMC-GH4_12 ISO 100 Sat 21,642
Panasonic Lumix DC-GH5_12 ISO 100 Sat 18,182
Thanks
P.S. Any chance of having multiple pop-ups (or just 2) for comparison?
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bclaff
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The first pair of figures is from DxOMark derived data.
The second pair is from PhotonsToPhotos.
They don't always agree and it's unclear (to me) which are more accurate but I'd give the DxOMark data a slight edge.
FWIW, using a different method I get 38,300 and 30,900.
No but I'm looking into adding a sort-able table below the chart.
bobn2
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That's useful, Bill. Thanks.
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bobn2
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LOL, you really have no idea, but of course that never stops you. It's a camera all right, 9 mpix, 4k.If you can take photos with that, it will be revolutionary. It's a battery charger.I have just ordered my first Olympus camera: the UC90. They told me it wil revolutionize my imaging. Are you saying it is merely marketing fluff?
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www.getolympus.com
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The difference between UC90 and UC-90 is obviously too subtle for your comprehension ;-)https://www.getolympus.com/us/en/lithium-ion-battery-charger-uc-90.htmlLOL, you really have no idea, but of course that never stops you. It's a camera all right, 9 mpix, 4k.If you can take photos with that, it will be revolutionary. It's a battery charger.I have just ordered my first Olympus camera: the UC90. They told me it wil revolutionize my imaging. Are you saying it is merely marketing fluff?
So?
bobn2
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The whole thing was clearly way over your head.The difference between UC90 and UC-90 is obviously too subtle for your comprehension ;-)https://www.getolympus.com/us/en/lithium-ion-battery-charger-uc-90.htmlLOL, you really have no idea, but of course that never stops you. It's a camera all right, 9 mpix, 4k.If you can take photos with that, it will be revolutionary. It's a battery charger.I have just ordered my first Olympus camera: the UC90. They told me it wil revolutionize my imaging. Are you saying it is merely marketing fluff?
So?
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Ride easy, William.
Bob
Jon555
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Yeah, sure. You didn't know UC90 is a camera, and now you are just going towards your 60000th post.The whole thing was clearly way over your head.The difference between UC90 and UC-90 is obviously too subtle for your comprehension ;-)https://www.getolympus.com/us/en/lithium-ion-battery-charger-uc-90.htmlLOL, you really have no idea, but of course that never stops you. It's a camera all right, 9 mpix, 4k.If you can take photos with that, it will be revolutionary. It's a battery charger.I have just ordered my first Olympus camera: the UC90. They told me it wil revolutionize my imaging. Are you saying it is merely marketing fluff?
So?
bobn2
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You didn't know that the UC-90 was a battery charger and thus it went right over your head.Yeah, sure. You didn't know UC90 is a camera,The whole thing was clearly way over your head.The difference between UC90 and UC-90 is obviously too subtle for your comprehension ;-)https://www.getolympus.com/us/en/lithium-ion-battery-charger-uc-90.htmlLOL, you really have no idea, but of course that never stops you. It's a camera all right, 9 mpix, 4k.If you can take photos with that, it will be revolutionary. It's a battery charger.I have just ordered my first Olympus camera: the UC90. They told me it wil revolutionize my imaging. Are you saying it is merely marketing fluff?
So?
And 59,998 of them will have made more sense than any of yours.
because it has about half the diagonal dimension? The magical scaling factor which makes everything perfectNo, but the SC180 would be much better.I have just ordered my first Olympus camera: the UC90. They told me it wil revolutionize my imaging. Are you saying it is merely marketing fluff?
No, because for microscopy, resolution is usually of a paramount importance.because it has about half the diagonal dimension? The magical scaling factor which makes everything perfectNo, but the SC180 would be much better.I have just ordered my first Olympus camera: the UC90. They told me it wil revolutionize my imaging. Are you saying it is merely marketing fluff?
Sergey_Green
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Not magnification?No, because for microscopy, resolution is usually of a paramount importance.because it has about half the diagonal dimension? The magical scaling factor which makes everything perfectNo, but the SC180 would be much better.I have just ordered my first Olympus camera: the UC90. They told me it wil revolutionize my imaging. Are you saying it is merely marketing fluff?
No. Laymen think magnification is important, but in reality, it's all about resolution. Microscopy 101.Not magnification?No, because for microscopy, resolution is usually of a paramount importance.because it has about half the diagonal dimension? The magical scaling factor which makes everything perfectNo, but the SC180 would be much better.I have just ordered my first Olympus camera: the UC90. They told me it wil revolutionize my imaging. Are you saying it is merely marketing fluff?
for this particular application, a large field of view was important.No, because for microscopy, resolution is usually of a paramount importance.because it has about half the diagonal dimension? The magical scaling factor which makes everything perfectNo, but the SC180 would be much better.I have just ordered my first Olympus camera: the UC90. They told me it wil revolutionize my imaging. Are you saying it is merely marketing fluff?
bobn2
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In any case, very often in microscopy diffraction defines the resolution obtainable, which is why techniques such as electron microscopy were developed. I'm not sure that the SC180 (or even the SC-180) would be of very much use for electron microscopy.for this particular application, a large field of view was important.No, because for microscopy, resolution is usually of a paramount importance.because it has about half the diagonal dimension? The magical scaling factor which makes everything perfectNo, but the SC180 would be much better.I have just ordered my first Olympus camera: the UC90. They told me it wil revolutionize my imaging. Are you saying it is merely marketing fluff?
I’m using scan heads when I’m after high optical res with light.In any case, very often in microscopy diffraction defines the resolution obtainable, which is why techniques such as electron microscopy were developed. I'm not sure that the SC180 (or even the SC-180) would be of very much use for electron microscopy.for this particular application, a large field of view was important.No, because for microscopy, resolution is usually of a paramount importance.because it has about half the diagonal dimension? The magical scaling factor which makes everything perfectNo, but the SC180 would be much better.I have just ordered my first Olympus camera: the UC90. They told me it wil revolutionize my imaging. Are you saying it is merely marketing fluff?
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bobn2
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Pretty good so long as you're not doing sports or action microscopy ;-)I’m using scan heads when I’m after high optical res with light.In any case, very often in microscopy diffraction defines the resolution obtainable, which is why techniques such as electron microscopy were developed. I'm not sure that the SC180 (or even the SC-180) would be of very much use for electron microscopy.for this particular application, a large field of view was important.No, because for microscopy, resolution is usually of a paramount importance.because it has about half the diagonal dimension? The magical scaling factor which makes everything perfectNo, but the SC180 would be much better.I have just ordered my first Olympus camera: the UC90. They told me it wil revolutionize my imaging. Are you saying it is merely marketing fluff?
bobn2
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Go to Microscopy 201 and you discover that resolution and pixel count, in this application, are two different things. Diffraction yields an effective limit for visible light microscopy of about 0.2 microns (for an unreliable source as to why, see here: https://www.microscopyu.com/techniq...the-diffraction-barrier-in-optical-microscopy)No. Laymen think magnification is important, but in reality, it's all about resolution. Microscopy 101.Not magnification?No, because for microscopy, resolution is usually of a paramount importance.because it has about half the diagonal dimension? The magical scaling factor which makes everything perfectNo, but the SC180 would be much better.I have just ordered my first Olympus camera: the UC90. They told me it wil revolutionize my imaging. Are you saying it is merely marketing fluff?
Thus the pixel count doesn't determine what is the resolution since one might arbitrarily magnify the image if the objective can resolve it, ultimately it determines the field of view. Assume a line pair for a feature, then a 1k pixel square sensor (1MP) could image 0.1 mm square, a 2k pixel square sensor (4MP) 0.2mm, a 4k square (16MP) 0.4mm and so on.
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