Nikon and New Fuji

Carerra · Oct 30, 2018

Hello All,

I'm a Nikon shooter and have been for years, I own a D850 and been desperate for a mirrorless so bought myself an XT3 to go side by side my Nikon, it hasn't arrived yet but I'm super excited, I have a question about adapters, this is an area I have no idea about, it would be great if I could put some of my Nikon glass on my Fuji, I would require my AF (Auto AF) still, could anyone recommend a great adapter tried and tested,

Many thanks and excited to be here also

Louis

Jim Whyte · Oct 30, 2018

Carerra said:
Hello All,

I'm a Nikon shooter and have been for years, I own a D850 and been desperate for a mirrorless so bought myself an XT3 to go side by side my Nikon, it hasn't arrived yet but I'm super excited, I have a question about adapters, this is an area I have no idea about, it would be great if I could put some of my Nikon glass on my Fuji, I would require my AF (Auto AF) still, could anyone recommend a great adapter tried and tested,

Many thanks and excited to be here also

Louis

Just curious, but what made you choose Fuji, instead of one of Nikon's new mirrorless cameras?

Regarding adapters: there are quite a few "dumb" adapters available (no electronics, no AF), and a couple of "smart" adapters on the horizon, but not available yet (near native functionality).

Carerra · Oct 30, 2018

Jim Whyte said:
Carerra said:

Hello All,

I'm a Nikon shooter and have been for years, I own a D850 and been desperate for a mirrorless so bought myself an XT3 to go side by side my Nikon, it hasn't arrived yet but I'm super excited, I have a question about adapters, this is an area I have no idea about, it would be great if I could put some of my Nikon glass on my Fuji, I would require my AF (Auto AF) still, could anyone recommend a great adapter tried and tested,

Many thanks and excited to be here also

Louis

Click to expand...

Just curious, but what made you choose Fuji, instead of one of Nikon's new mirrorless cameras?

Regarding adapters: there are quite a few "dumb" adapters available (no electronics, no AF), and a couple of "smart" adapters on the horizon, but not available yet (near native functionality).

Hi, well the Z7 has worse AF than my D850, also no Eye AF, another problem with Nikon is customisation in the menus, it's very limited, 1 memory card slot too, I had high hopes for Nikon and felt its not time for such an investment, I believe they will get it right with their next camera, I forgot to mention Nikons pricing was way to expensive for the Z7 also

Vic Chapman · Oct 30, 2018

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Carerra · Oct 30, 2018

Vic Chapman said:
Coming soon.

Vic

https://www.fujirumors.com/steelsri...y-and-what-it-could-mean-for-nikon-z6-and-z7/

ah great!! thanks so much

57even · Oct 30, 2018

Carerra said:
Hello All,

I'm a Nikon shooter and have been for years, I own a D850 and been desperate for a mirrorless so bought myself an XT3 to go side by side my Nikon, it hasn't arrived yet but I'm super excited, I have a question about adapters, this is an area I have no idea about, it would be great if I could put some of my Nikon glass on my Fuji, I would require my AF (Auto AF) still, could anyone recommend a great adapter tried and tested,

Many thanks and excited to be here also

Louis

I bailed on Nikon when the previous generation of X cameras came out (Xpro2). That's not because the Xpro2 was objectively better than my D800 in terms of performance, but because...

1. I enjoyed using it much more and

2. I couldn't see the difference in print (I seldom print larger than A2 or 24X16).

If you need all those pixels (ie you make very big prints) then you have a reason to keep the D850. It is a real beast. I shot both D800 and Xpro1 for a while, with the Xpro1 as a travel camera (never liked Nikon's lousy selection of APSC lenses).

OTOH, you will probably love using your new Fuji. It's just so tempting the leave the beast at home and take the lighter option.

But just so you know...

One thing you may encounter is that certain subjects are not handled well in Lightroom. If you use LR a lot, then you may see weird sharpening artefacts in foliage, frequently called 'worms'.

My solution is to ignore sharpening in LR (or even tone it down) and do the final edit in Photoshop, where I apply a little smart sharpening before USM. Others pre-process problem files in X-transformer Pro, which is cheap and very effective, or use sharpening plug-ins.

If you use C1, you are unlikely to notice any issues. The free version of Silkypix which you can download from Fuji also does an excellent job with the files, as do many other raw converters, though they don't all have LRs functionality. The problem is mostly attributed to Adobe.

Just letting you know so you don't have to run the gauntlet of conflicting opinions by asking later. And if you do use LR, there is no need to panic - the workarounds are mostly simple.

Carerra · Oct 30, 2018

57even said:
Carerra said:

Hello All,

I'm a Nikon shooter and have been for years, I own a D850 and been desperate for a mirrorless so bought myself an XT3 to go side by side my Nikon, it hasn't arrived yet but I'm super excited, I have a question about adapters, this is an area I have no idea about, it would be great if I could put some of my Nikon glass on my Fuji, I would require my AF (Auto AF) still, could anyone recommend a great adapter tried and tested,

Many thanks and excited to be here also

Louis

Click to expand...

I bailed on Nikon when the previous generation of X cameras came out (Xpro2). That's not because the Xpro2 was objectively better than my D800 in terms of performance, but because...

1. I enjoyed using it much more and

2. I couldn't see the difference in print (I seldom print larger than A2 or 24X16).

If you need all those pixels (ie you make very big prints) then you have a reason to keep the D850. It is a real beast. I shot both D800 and Xpro1 for a while, with the Xpro1 as a travel camera (never liked Nikon's lousy selection of APSC lenses).

OTOH, you will probably love using your new Fuji. It's just so tempting the leave the beast at home and take the lighter option.

But just so you know...

One thing you may encounter is that certain subjects are not handled well in Lightroom. If you use LR a lot, then you may see weird sharpening artefacts in foliage, frequently called 'worms'.

My solution is to ignore sharpening in LR (or even tone it down) and do the final edit in Photoshop, where I apply a little smart sharpening before USM. Others pre-process problem files in X-transformer Pro, which is cheap and very effective, or use sharpening plug-ins.

If you use C1, you are unlikely to notice any issues. The free version of Silkypix which you can download from Fuji also does an excellent job with the files, as do many other raw converters, though they don't all have LRs functionality. The problem is mostly attributed to Adobe.

Just letting you know so you don't have to run the gauntlet of conflicting opinions by asking later. And if you do use LR, there is no need to panic - the workarounds are mostly simple.

Thank you so much for taking the time to write this, it's really helpful, I use Lightroom all the time, and you have helped me already before I have even started with the camera! so thank you !!!

mbo27 · Oct 30, 2018

I am a previous Nikon user who switched looking for smaller/lighter gear. I did use my Nikon glass with my X-H1 for a while before selling it. AFAIK, there are no adapters that allow AF (autofocus) for Nikon glass (unlike Canon's). I would classify the adapters really as 3 types : basic ones that works with F lenses, those that you would need to work with G lenses (they would have a ring to allow you to control aperture manually) since the Nikon G lenses don't have one), and those that have the optics to allow you to use your full-frame lenses at almost the same focal length (like Metabones speedboster),

All types will function in manual mode - which is really very using using focus peaking on mirrorless camera like the Fuji. EXIF data will be also incomplete:

Aperture will always show as f/1.0
Focal length will show as whatever you told the camera in the menu settings; which is fine and OK for primes but for zooms, it would be off
Shutter speed will be fine of course since it is controlled by the camera.

Personally I purchased the 2nd type (adapter for G lenses). It worked beautifully (other than the manual focus as mentioned), and the quality is what you would expect from a good Nikon glass. I would just add here that while these G adapters have a ring to allow you to change the aperture, you're doing it in the blind since there are no markings to refer to.

Hope that helps.

57even · Oct 30, 2018

Carerra said:
57even said:

Carerra said:

Hello All,

I'm a Nikon shooter and have been for years, I own a D850 and been desperate for a mirrorless so bought myself an XT3 to go side by side my Nikon, it hasn't arrived yet but I'm super excited, I have a question about adapters, this is an area I have no idea about, it would be great if I could put some of my Nikon glass on my Fuji, I would require my AF (Auto AF) still, could anyone recommend a great adapter tried and tested,

Many thanks and excited to be here also

Louis

Click to expand...

I bailed on Nikon when the previous generation of X cameras came out (Xpro2). That's not because the Xpro2 was objectively better than my D800 in terms of performance, but because...

1. I enjoyed using it much more and

2. I couldn't see the difference in print (I seldom print larger than A2 or 24X16).

If you need all those pixels (ie you make very big prints) then you have a reason to keep the D850. It is a real beast. I shot both D800 and Xpro1 for a while, with the Xpro1 as a travel camera (never liked Nikon's lousy selection of APSC lenses).

OTOH, you will probably love using your new Fuji. It's just so tempting the leave the beast at home and take the lighter option.

But just so you know...

One thing you may encounter is that certain subjects are not handled well in Lightroom. If you use LR a lot, then you may see weird sharpening artefacts in foliage, frequently called 'worms'.

My solution is to ignore sharpening in LR (or even tone it down) and do the final edit in Photoshop, where I apply a little smart sharpening before USM. Others pre-process problem files in X-transformer Pro, which is cheap and very effective, or use sharpening plug-ins.

If you use C1, you are unlikely to notice any issues. The free version of Silkypix which you can download from Fuji also does an excellent job with the files, as do many other raw converters, though they don't all have LRs functionality. The problem is mostly attributed to Adobe.

Just letting you know so you don't have to run the gauntlet of conflicting opinions by asking later. And if you do use LR, there is no need to panic - the workarounds are mostly simple.

Click to expand...

Thank you so much for taking the time to write this, it's really helpful, I use Lightroom all the time, and you have helped me already before I have even started with the camera! so thank you !!!

You are most welcome. Enjoy your new 'sports car' ;-)

Just checked out your excellent portfolio. I think I see a 56 f1.2 in your future, and probably a 23 f1.4 ;-)

Your America shots reminded me of Stephen Shore.

We have another resident fashion photographer here, Ben Kanarek, also ex Nikon.

--
Reporter: "Mr Gandhi, what do you think of Western Civilisation?"
Mahatma Gandhi: "I think it would be a very good idea!"

dv312 · Oct 30, 2018

Not sure if anyone is making adapter for Nikon F with AF

However Metabones has a few manual adapters for Nikon F

Check them out on Amazon or BandH sites

If I were you I'd wait for the Nikon Z6

As far as Fuji adapters are concerned, you can only find Canon EOS mount with full AF capability

a_c_skinner · Oct 31, 2018

I shoot JPG and raw and generally use the JPGs for the bulk of my "easy light" shots. I've used Affinity for the few raw files I use and for panoramas or if there are a lot of frames I've used the Fuji software to batch convert to TIFF. I'd certainly recommend the in camera JPG conversions much of the time.

Like a lot of people on there I sold Nikon FX to go wholly Fuji. Fuji was smaller, lighter and frankly I couldn't tell the difference in the images in my use (again, note, easy lighting). The cost of the D850 told me I'd not be inclined to keep upgrading Nikon so while my gear had some value in it I sold the lot.

I've recently seen a comparison of Pentax 6x7 using FP4 and Fuji. There wasn't a convincing difference there either.

--
Andrew Skinner

George Paulides · Oct 31, 2018

Carerra said:
Jim Whyte said:

Carerra said:

Hello All,

I'm a Nikon shooter and have been for years, I own a D850 and been desperate for a mirrorless so bought myself an XT3 to go side by side my Nikon, it hasn't arrived yet but I'm super excited, I have a question about adapters, this is an area I have no idea about, it would be great if I could put some of my Nikon glass on my Fuji, I would require my AF (Auto AF) still, could anyone recommend a great adapter tried and tested,

Many thanks and excited to be here also

Louis

Click to expand...

Just curious, but what made you choose Fuji, instead of one of Nikon's new mirrorless cameras?

Regarding adapters: there are quite a few "dumb" adapters available (no electronics, no AF), and a couple of "smart" adapters on the horizon, but not available yet (near native functionality).

Click to expand...

Hi, well the Z7 has worse AF than my D850, also no Eye AF, another problem with Nikon is customisation in the menus, it's very limited, 1 memory card slot too, I had high hopes for Nikon and felt its not time for such an investment, I believe they will get it right with their next camera, I forgot to mention Nikons pricing was way to expensive for the Z7 also

If there was a point of comparison to the X-T3 it would be the Z6 (still not quite apples to apples), not the Z7.

Fair enough in that you say that Nikon may get it right with their next generation but if I was an existing user with Nikon glass I would be looking at the Z6.

KeithF · Oct 31, 2018

dv312 said:
Not sure if anyone is making adapter for Nikon F with AF

However Metabones has a few manual adapters for Nikon F

Check them out on Amazon or BandH sites

If I were you I'd wait for the Nikon Z6

As far as Fuji adapters are concerned, you can only find Canon EOS mount with full AF capability

I have few adapters including the focal reducer. All work ok with manual focus. Waited so long for the AF adapter, I think there is one beta adapter commlite (?), the AF is worse then the Nikon D3500. LOL. Good luck to find a AF adapter.

agreed Nikon Z6 is the better choice if you want AF with your Nikon glasses.

Carerra · Oct 31, 2018

57even said:
Carerra said:

57even said:

Carerra said:

Hello All,

I'm a Nikon shooter and have been for years, I own a D850 and been desperate for a mirrorless so bought myself an XT3 to go side by side my Nikon, it hasn't arrived yet but I'm super excited, I have a question about adapters, this is an area I have no idea about, it would be great if I could put some of my Nikon glass on my Fuji, I would require my AF (Auto AF) still, could anyone recommend a great adapter tried and tested,

Many thanks and excited to be here also

Louis

Click to expand...

I bailed on Nikon when the previous generation of X cameras came out (Xpro2). That's not because the Xpro2 was objectively better than my D800 in terms of performance, but because...

1. I enjoyed using it much more and

2. I couldn't see the difference in print (I seldom print larger than A2 or 24X16).

If you need all those pixels (ie you make very big prints) then you have a reason to keep the D850. It is a real beast. I shot both D800 and Xpro1 for a while, with the Xpro1 as a travel camera (never liked Nikon's lousy selection of APSC lenses).

OTOH, you will probably love using your new Fuji. It's just so tempting the leave the beast at home and take the lighter option.

But just so you know...

One thing you may encounter is that certain subjects are not handled well in Lightroom. If you use LR a lot, then you may see weird sharpening artefacts in foliage, frequently called 'worms'.

My solution is to ignore sharpening in LR (or even tone it down) and do the final edit in Photoshop, where I apply a little smart sharpening before USM. Others pre-process problem files in X-transformer Pro, which is cheap and very effective, or use sharpening plug-ins.

If you use C1, you are unlikely to notice any issues. The free version of Silkypix which you can download from Fuji also does an excellent job with the files, as do many other raw converters, though they don't all have LRs functionality. The problem is mostly attributed to Adobe.

Just letting you know so you don't have to run the gauntlet of conflicting opinions by asking later. And if you do use LR, there is no need to panic - the workarounds are mostly simple.

Click to expand...

Thank you so much for taking the time to write this, it's really helpful, I use Lightroom all the time, and you have helped me already before I have even started with the camera! so thank you !!!

Click to expand...

You are most welcome. Enjoy your new 'sports car' ;-)

Just checked out your excellent portfolio. I think I see a 56 f1.2 in your future, and probably a 23 f1.4 ;-)

Your America shots reminded me of Stephen Shore.

We have another resident fashion photographer here, Ben Kanarek, also ex Nikon.

Really nice words thank you so much!

Carerra · Oct 31, 2018

a_c_skinner said:
I shoot JPG and raw and generally use the JPGs for the bulk of my "easy light" shots. I've used Affinity for the few raw files I use and for panoramas or if there are a lot of frames I've used the Fuji software to batch convert to TIFF. I'd certainly recommend the in camera JPG conversions much of the time.

Like a lot of people on there I sold Nikon FX to go wholly Fuji. Fuji was smaller, lighter and frankly I couldn't tell the difference in the images in my use (again, note, easy lighting). The cost of the D850 told me I'd not be inclined to keep upgrading Nikon so while my gear had some value in it I sold the lot.

I've recently seen a comparison of Pentax 6x7 using FP4 and Fuji. There wasn't a convincing difference there either.

Im really excited to see the files and play with the camera, I know I will love it

Carerra · Oct 31, 2018

mbo27 said:
I am a previous Nikon user who switched looking for smaller/lighter gear. I did use my Nikon glass with my X-H1 for a while before selling it. AFAIK, there are no adapters that allow AF (autofocus) for Nikon glass (unlike Canon's). I would classify the adapters really as 3 types : basic ones that works with F lenses, those that you would need to work with G lenses (they would have a ring to allow you to control aperture manually) since the Nikon G lenses don't have one), and those that have the optics to allow you to use your full-frame lenses at almost the same focal length (like Metabones speedboster),

All types will function in manual mode - which is really very using using focus peaking on mirrorless camera like the Fuji. EXIF data will be also incomplete:

Aperture will always show as f/1.0

Focal length will show as whatever you told the camera in the menu settings; which is fine and OK for primes but for zooms, it would be off

Shutter speed will be fine of course since it is controlled by the camera.

Personally I purchased the 2nd type (adapter for G lenses). It worked beautifully (other than the manual focus as mentioned), and the quality is what you would expect from a good Nikon glass. I would just add here that while these G adapters have a ring to allow you to change the aperture, you're doing it in the blind since there are no markings to refer to.

Hope that helps.

This is a great help, I may look to just manual focus the lenses if needed, maybe in time there will be an auto af adaptor, cant wait to start using the camera

Carerra · Oct 31, 2018

dv312 said:
Not sure if anyone is making adapter for Nikon F with AF

However Metabones has a few manual adapters for Nikon F

Check them out on Amazon or BandH sites

If I were you I'd wait for the Nikon Z6

As far as Fuji adapters are concerned, you can only find Canon EOS mount with full AF capability

Thank you, I will wait, the Z6 is nice, but not enough for me to want to buy it, AF is really important and I love the eye AF on the fuji, so many factors sold me to the fuji, price, and features it has it all

KeithF · Oct 31, 2018

George Paulides said:
Carerra said:

Jim Whyte said:

Carerra said:

Hello All,

I'm a Nikon shooter and have been for years, I own a D850 and been desperate for a mirrorless so bought myself an XT3 to go side by side my Nikon, it hasn't arrived yet but I'm super excited, I have a question about adapters, this is an area I have no idea about, it would be great if I could put some of my Nikon glass on my Fuji, I would require my AF (Auto AF) still, could anyone recommend a great adapter tried and tested,

Many thanks and excited to be here also

Louis

Click to expand...

Just curious, but what made you choose Fuji, instead of one of Nikon's new mirrorless cameras?

Regarding adapters: there are quite a few "dumb" adapters available (no electronics, no AF), and a couple of "smart" adapters on the horizon, but not available yet (near native functionality).

Click to expand...

Hi, well the Z7 has worse AF than my D850, also no Eye AF, another problem with Nikon is customisation in the menus, it's very limited, 1 memory card slot too, I had high hopes for Nikon and felt its not time for such an investment, I believe they will get it right with their next camera, I forgot to mention Nikons pricing was way to expensive for the Z7 also

Click to expand...

If there was a point of comparison to the X-T3 it would be the Z6 (still not quite apples to apples), not the Z7.

Fair enough in that you say that Nikon may get it right with their next generation but if I was an existing user with Nikon glass I would be looking at the Z6.

The more fair comparison is X-H1 vs Nikon Z6 both 24M camera and both has IBIS.

X-H1 : CAD$2450. 623g (excluding battery and memory card)

Z6 : CAD$2600. 585 g camera body only

so CAD$150 for the bigger sensor and lighter.

blink667 · Oct 31, 2018

Carerra said:
dv312 said:

Not sure if anyone is making adapter for Nikon F with AF

However Metabones has a few manual adapters for Nikon F

Check them out on Amazon or BandH sites

If I were you I'd wait for the Nikon Z6

As far as Fuji adapters are concerned, you can only find Canon EOS mount with full AF capability

Click to expand...

Thank you, I will wait, the Z6 is nice, but not enough for me to want to buy it, AF is really important and I love the eye AF on the fuji, so many factors sold me to the fuji, price, and features it has it all

I use both systems. When I need fast reliable AF I grab the Nikon. I also like the green dot in-focus indicator when I'm using manual focus lenses, wish Fuji had something like that.

Morris0 · Oct 31, 2018

Carerra said:
Vic Chapman said:

Coming soon.

Vic

https://www.fujirumors.com/steelsri...y-and-what-it-could-mean-for-nikon-z6-and-z7/

Click to expand...

ah great!! thanks so much

That is 1/4 solution. Supporting auto exposure is nice yet IMHO less valuable than AF. The older and still wonderful mechanical focusing (screw driver) lenses are great barges used and I've got two I'd love to use on my arriving today X-T3. I purchased an inexpensive "dumb" lens adapter and see how I feel about using my sweet old glass.

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