Cerafine95
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Dust on the sensor?
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I have read reports that the gel tool you referenced can leave sticky residue on the sensor and the Sony tech who showed me how he personally cleaned sensors said that he "would never use one of those" .. he recommended that I do it his way. Consequently mine is still sitting there brand new and unused.
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phototeacher
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grasj wrote:
Anyone has experience with the Cleaning Mode feature of the cameras? Haven't seen it in this thread.
This feature shakes the sensor (helpful!), and also locks the sensor if you need to do wet cleaning or use a gel stick. Turn off the camera when finished.
To clarify: Are you saying that if you're doing a swab cleaning you should first run the camera's cleaning cycle, and then leave the camera on to do the swab work? Then turn it off when finished with the swabs?
Anyone has experience with the Cleaning Mode feature of the cameras? Haven't seen it in this thread.
This feature shakes the sensor (helpful!), and also locks the sensor if you need to do wet cleaning or use a gel stick. Turn off the camera when finished.
To clarify: Are you saying that if you're doing a swab cleaning you should first run the camera's cleaning cycle, and then leave the camera on to do the swab work? Then turn it off when finished with the swabs?
Sounds like something greasy perhaps from the manufacturing process.
The Sony tech told me use a gentle double sweep with a (he used a couple of drops of Eclipse) moistened fresh swab.
Repeat this process until clean. Don't panic... it sometimes takes several wipes.
Anyway... that's almost certainly exactly what they did simply out of your sight at the store for 30 GBP.
My feeling ... it's much better to figure out how to do it yourself. You might not be near any open camera stores when next you find spots on the silly thing. Or worse ... some ham fisted "tech" at the store might do some damage that is not immediately obvious.
James Stirling
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Could it be a static process where the small clear rod attracts dust particles ?
Wow... that might just work! Something like a Delrin or Acetate rod perhaps?
You might have yourself a commercially viable product there
Or... on the other hand might a static discharge damage the sensor? I have no idea.
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I don't even bother with the cleaning mode vibrator thingy ... in my experience it's next to completely useless at removing clinging particles that can be easily dislodged by a little puff of air.
Keep in mind that your 'in-body stabilized' sensor is pretty much bouncing around all the time ...
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The semiconductor industry spends a lot of time and money guarding against electrostatic discharge problems; I wouldn't care to risk it.
Yes.. I'm quite happy doing it the Sony tech way.
Air puffs first and then a wet wipe if that fails. It's all you'll ever need in my experience.
James Stirling
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Alas I have no idea either just looking at the video gave that impressionWow... that might just work! Something like a Delrin or Acetate rod perhaps?
You might have yourself a commercially viable product there
Or... on the other hand might a static discharge damage the sensor? I have no idea.
There is the old silk scarf glass rod experiments we did in school along these lines, so you could see in theory how something like this could work or not HI all, I just use the rocket blower and have never had to clean the sensor (knock on wood!) more than that. One other point, FWIW, I NEVER change lenses or blow my sensor without first turning the camera OFF. Right or wrong, an energized sensor will attract more dust than a de-energized sensor!! IMHO!! Tom
On reflection the "Arctic Butterfly" product claims to use statically charged bristles to collect particles. Similar concept.Alas I have no idea either just looking at the video gave that impressionWow... that might just work! Something like a Delrin or Acetate rod perhaps?
You might have yourself a commercially viable product there
Or... on the other hand might a static discharge damage the sensor? I have no idea.
SilvanBromide
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That's correct.
It's important to run the cleaning cycle from the menu first, and leave the camera on afterward before attempting manual cleaning.
Doing that disables IBIS and locks the sensor in place so that it won't be moving freely while you're trying to wipe or touch-clean it (e.g. with a specialised brush, blower and/or brush).
After you finish cleaning, power off and on again and that releases the sensor lock.
SilvanBromide
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Agreed.
I also do that, except on rare occasions when I forget to turn off before a lens change.
It's been my experience that when I do forget, I'm more likely to end up with particles on the sensor, so I think that's anecdotal confirmation of your theory... ; )
phototeacher
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That's correct.
It's important to run the cleaning cycle from the menu first, and leave the camera on afterward before attempting manual cleaning.
Doing that disables IBIS and locks the sensor in place so that it won't be moving freely while you're trying to wipe or touch-clean it (e.g. with a specialised brush, blower and/or brush).
After you finish cleaning, power off and on again and that releases the sensor lock.
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Thanks for the clarification. So far I have only had to use the blower, but I wanted to be sure of the procedure if a more 'dramatic' cleaning is needed!
SilvanBromide
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No problem.
I find that for most cases a blower is sufficient - solves something 90% of issues. I don't generally bother running the cleaning cycle first (though there's no harm in doing that and it can make the blower more effective because it tends to loosen any small particles).
FWIW, in the rare cases when a blower doesn't suffice, I escalate to an arctic butterfly, a gel stick and then a swab clean (with aero-clipse fluid) in that order. I rarely get as far as the swab clean. ; )
Paul Barnard
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Yes the artic butterfly works well. Spinning the brush generates the charge on the bristles. The dust sticks to the bristles. I do the same on a large scale for pricture framing. I have a natural fur dusting brush that I spin to generate the charge. It very gently and easily lifts the dust from the acrylic ‘glass’, mat and picture.On reflection the "Arctic Butterfly" product claims to use statically charged bristles to collect particles. Similar concept.Alas I have no idea either just looking at the video gave that impressionWow... that might just work! Something like a Delrin or Acetate rod perhaps?
You might have yourself a commercially viable product there
Or... on the other hand might a static discharge damage the sensor? I have no idea.
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