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myfujilife
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Except it appears with legitimate third party batteries.
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mcslsk
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Happens, don't worry
SilvanBromide
Veteran Member
This is the "I spent so much on my Ferrari that I can't afford to use the recommended fuel" argument.
Sorry, I don't buy it. You use the wrong fuel you don't get the performance you paid for and you put the engine at risk. In extreme cases you may expose yourself to other hazards.
Not so different in the case of 3rd party batteries. Sony aren't stopping you from doing anything, just making sure you know that there may be issues if you do.
SilvanBromide
Veteran Member
What - you don't have an alarm clock? ; )There should be a warning about the sun rising
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mcslsk
Guest
This assumes that the generic fuel (or battery) is not as good as the original? Any basis for that? By removing the charge indicator percentage (other tread), Sony does significantly reduce usability. Still no reason to complain?
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mcslsk
Guest
Yes, but its a no-name.What - you don't have an alarm clock? ; )There should be a warning about the sun rising
Paul Barnard
Veteran Member
SilvanBromide
Veteran Member
No, it doesn't. It assumes that the generic fuel isn't subject to the same stringent stringent standards as have been set for the recommended fuel.
You can post an octane rating on diluted and adulterated fuel. Might or might not be to spec, and might or might not damage your engine.
I would complain if they didn't and the charge indicator then gave misleading readings, causing me to lose work or miss shots. The charge indicator is potentially erroneous or even meaningless if the technology of the battery is not as designed/intended by the manufacturer. The battery is part of a system. Stick something else in there and all bets are off WRT accuracy and reliability.
Paul Barnard
Veteran Member
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mcslsk
Guest
If sony has no patent or other protection on the battery, then there is no need for a license. If Sony had such protection, they would first go after Amazon and shut down sales.
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mcslsk
Guest
Which is assuming that everything that doesn't come from the originator is or could be low grade, isn't it?
It is been working fine before - how strange
Paul Barnard
Veteran Member
You miss the point. To be legitimate is not about legality. It’s about suitability and fit for purpose. A licensed product has to adhere to the licensers standards. A copy doesn’t and has not warranty of suitability for use.
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myfujilife
Guest
And if Sony start charging $250 a battery will you maintain that stance?
golfhov
Forum Pro
You are either very young or very naive. Sony says clearly to only use first party accessories. It is you that are not using the product how it is intended. Manufacturers have been dealing with this for years. You can find plenty of instances where updates or new releases locked out third party batteries.
No. They don't need to because they don't support third party batteries. No manufacturer does. All they did was put up an annoying warning. This also protects consumers because there are counterfiet batteries making the rounds. Sold as Sony authorized and look similar. Now your camera will tell you.
You can be mad all you want but the world has been this way and will be this way. As others have pointed out you are lucky that Sony didn't lock out your third party batteries. They have every right to do that. You would be the first one to sue them if you were injured by the third party batteries. At the least you would return the camera to Sony for repair if the third party battery bricked it.
And no I am not naive. Some of the concern is Sony's bottom line. Perhaps most of the concern. You would have a much stronger case if Sony actually changed the way the product was intended to work. AKA stareater
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myfujilife
Guest
Nope, it’s assumes that Sony are making a huge margin on batteries and want to scare customers into using their overpriced batteries. The design and manufacturer of these is outsourced to a third party, it’s a high margin item.
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myfujilife
Guest
And if it damages your camera, you could bring a liability claim against the manufacturer of the battery. There is not that much to it.
golfhov
Forum Pro
Fuel was one. It was well played.
While on cars we could do non oem parts. They are supposed to look and perform like the same thing. The manufacturer won't cover or support that part.
This story is as old as electronics. Manufacturers only support authorized products from authorized distribution networks. Yes, some of that is just protectionism. which is a long and interesting conversation. Once you go outside those channels you cannot be surprised and indignant that the manufacturer will not encourage that behavior.
Bricking components, disabling batteries, refusal to provide support, warnings, etc are all things that have and will occur in the future. Buy first party and those concerns don't tend to be an issue.
While on cars we could do non oem parts. They are supposed to look and perform like the same thing. The manufacturer won't cover or support that part.
This story is as old as electronics. Manufacturers only support authorized products from authorized distribution networks. Yes, some of that is just protectionism. which is a long and interesting conversation. Once you go outside those channels you cannot be surprised and indignant that the manufacturer will not encourage that behavior.
Bricking components, disabling batteries, refusal to provide support, warnings, etc are all things that have and will occur in the future. Buy first party and those concerns don't tend to be an issue.
Tristimulus
Veteran Member
Have one. The thing is irritating and makes a lot of noise.What - you don't have an alarm clock? ; )There should be a warning about the sun rising
Guess the maker should fix it - make it quiet and noiseless... :-D
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myfujilife
Guest
Will you still buy their batteries if they were charging $300 for them? What’s the limit to your loyalty?
Tristimulus
Veteran Member
Now you are outside reality. Sony does NOT charge $300 for a battery.
