Did you click on the underlined link above? The inner diameter of the RF mount is the same as that of the EF. Maybe the outer diameter is larger, that might be good for a more secure mount, but it's the inner diameter that would offer any optical advantage or disadvantage -- so it is just the flange distance that has changed.
I explicitly noted "over L and E". I did not compared RF and old EF.
Oh, no I didnt catch that, never owned a Leica so "L mount" was not even in my vocabulary. Yeah, I dont know if a larger mount is anything other than a stronger connection point for the lens. Does light come to the sensor from anywhere that is blocked by the inner rim of smaller opening in the camera body in front of the sensor?
I agree. Today Panasonic joined the 4 way FF ML race with two IBIS equipped camera bodies, Canon will have to react again and soon.
I can't say this for certain but I think the R is the only newer FF MILC being sold, or coming to market, without IBIS. Once again, Canon will be brought to offering a mainstream feature kicking and screaming all the way.
You guys think it is like that, but they are actually making “sound” business decisions. iBiS would have likely required them to redesign the sensor. But they made the choice to focus on the lenses, body, and the overall system and integration.
I hear this all the time from Canon defenders. I used to be one myself but realized all Canon is concerned with is extending the least amount of effort and expense in order to keep stringing their user base along.
The fact is that Canon is no longer an innovator but a reactionist company. They dominated the DSLR market because they were innovative from 2000-2010. They will not dominate the MILC market unless they offer innovative products. Heck, they aren't even offering MILC products that come close to their competition.
Sorry. I am not defending, just stating a speculation.
Canon doesn't care about their users beyond what amount of money they can extract from their wallets and purses. Nothing wrong with this if they delivered the goods.
Where did I say Canon should ditch DPAF? It is the only technology they have at this point making them relevant in the marketplace. Lack of innovation will be their undoing if their current path is continued.
Canon loves to read statements like this from their users. Compliant, undemanding users is what they have counted on the past eight years and what they seem to be counting on into the future.
So we should expect the R to be equal to the original A7? Canon should have come out with a much more capable FF MILC in 2018. There are no excuses for not doing so, IMO. What Canon gave us is a 6D2 MILC knockoff with a sensor design three generations back from the competition.
I have heard all this before. It is wearing thin as an excuse for buying Canon over Sony.
Canon is at the top of the DSLR market. They are at the bottom of the FF MILC market and show no signs of improving on this position.
Look at the market share of PCs versus Macs. Also, Android has an 85% market share, give or take, most years. Apple relies heavily on fanboyism to keep what market share they have.
Absolutely! I love seeing competition. My guess is Fuji will eventually make it four brands. I would love to see them enter the FF MILC market.If the missing features are a deal breaker for you. Well I have good news for you. There are 3 other mainstream Brands with MILC FF camera’s
Bold claim there. Doubt they read these comments or care what they have to say.
I wouldn't be so sure. DPR is the largest photography website in the world. Canon gives exclusive interviews to DPR so thinking they don't track what happens here is probably not accurate.
Pros are not what keeps Canon alive. It is people that can be found here on DPR and elsewhere. The pro gear helps them sell to the lower levels. Like Ford, Chevy etc. sponsoring NASCAR teams. The old motto "Win on Sunday, sell on Monday." in priciple is what Canon does with pro gear.They are fully transparent with their specs and features. They are fully aware that comsumers and not we DPR crowd or pros that generate the most revenue. So regardless of our complains about specs they still sell the most cameras and the majority are happy with their purchase (though many are naive). It’s business. If I can make something for 10 dollars and sell it for 100, then why make it for 50 if the # of units sold is the same? Simple economics really. Sony had to be aggressive to gain market share. Canon is still pretty much unscaved
I get the logic. Flag ship cameras give them pristege and exposure so they can sell the lower price tag items in large numbers. Pros are so deep invested though that a large portion of them will stick with canon.I wouldn't be so sure. DPR is the largest photography website in the world. Canon gives exclusive interviews to DPR so thinking they don't track what happens here is probably not accurate.
Pros are not what keeps Canon alive. It is people that can be found here on DPR and elsewhere. The pro gear helps them sell to the lower levels. Like Ford, Chevy etc. sponsoring NASCAR teams. The old motto "Win on Sunday, sell on Monday." in priciple is what Canon does with pro gear.They are fully transparent with their specs and features. They are fully aware that comsumers and not we DPR crowd or pros that generate the most revenue. So regardless of our complains about specs they still sell the most cameras and the majority are happy with their purchase (though many are naive). It’s business. If I can make something for 10 dollars and sell it for 100, then why make it for 50 if the # of units sold is the same? Simple economics really. Sony had to be aggressive to gain market share. Canon is still pretty much unscaved
Once again, Canon is "unscathed" in the DSLR market. They are very scathed in the FF/APS-C MILC market. What is the future of ILC digital photography?
Same for any business.
Nothing wrong with that, period. They can't "extract from their wallets and purchases" if they don't deliver what they're willing to buy. Cameras are luxury items, not necessities like medication.
Canon doesn't care one bit about what's written on these forums. If Canon listens to anyone, it's people they pay for feedback, such as their "ambassadors".
They're not counting on anything. They produce a product, people buy, and they're #1. True, they may be successful in spite of how they do things instead of because of how they do things, but "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" is a commonly held philosophy.
Exactly bro.
