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..while I'd rather leave the UV filter on the P1000..

..for testing, will not leave any stones unturned..

..seems like the P1000 can use all the light it can get..

..used Center-weighed metering..

..sooc jpeg image, 3000mm..

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..for now, I'll leave off the UV filter and put it away..

..Cheers..
 
So did you see a big difference with and without the filter? I did a test at a shorter FL and couldn't see a difference, but I need to do another test at full 2000 zoom to see how things look. I spent a ton on nice B+W filters and I hate to put them all away! :(
 
CMCM said:
So did you see a big difference with and without the filter? I did a test at a shorter FL and couldn't see a difference, but I need to do another test at full 2000 zoom to see how things look. I spent a ton on nice B+W filters and I hate to put them all away! :(
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..without the lens filter, the pictures appears a bit more brighter & clearer..

..I'll be doing a bit more test, to test whether Contrast will work better using "Auto" or "0"..

..then the rest will be understanding how to use the best settings for the lens.. at 3000mm and f/8, and also iso1600, the shutter speeds needs to be adjusted for best results..

..Cheers..
 
Kevin Coppalotti said:
Nice painting filter effect.

Is that nikon via topaz?
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..Lol's, thanks for commenting..

..the P1000 is what it is, and I'll try my best to make the most of it..

..Cheers..
 
Note: I'm doing this on a P900 for testing UV filter effects. This is a B+W UV filter, XS Pro Digital Nano.

I tried this again, a couple of ways. With and without UV filter, also VR on and VR off since this was on a tripod. Shot at full zoom 2000mm this time, and this is also a test to see the difference between VR on and VR off when on a tripod.

Interesting...with VR on and everything set up, the view thru the viewfinder was quite shaky, but when I clicked the shutter it stopped moving momentarily. With VR off, there wasn't the shakiness I saw through the VF before shooting. So perhaps for tripod shooting, the VR really does need to be off to keep things more stable when looking through the viewfinder. Just a thought...I'm not totally sure about this idea yet. Nikon and many others do say to turn VR off when on a tripod.

Meanwhile, comparison pics below, still don't know if I approached this test right. All at 3000 mm.

1. With UV filter, VR on, tripod
1. With UV filter, VR on, tripod

2. No UV filter, VR on, tripod
2. No UV filter, VR on, tripod

With UV filter, VR off, tripod
With UV filter, VR off, tripod

4. Without UV filter, VR off, tripod
4. Without UV filter, VR off, tripod
 
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CMCM said:
Note: I'm doing this on a P900 for testing UV filter effects. This is a B+W UV filter, XS Pro Digital Nano.

I tried this again, a couple of ways. With and without UV filter, also VR on and VR off since this was on a tripod. Shot at full zoom 2000mm this time, and this is also a test to see the difference between VR on and VR off when on a tripod.

Interesting...with VR on and everything set up, the view thru the viewfinder was quite shaky, but when I clicked the shutter it stopped moving momentarily. With VR off, there wasn't the shakiness I saw through the VF before shooting. So perhaps for tripod shooting, the VR really does need to be off to keep things more stable when looking through the viewfinder. Just a thought...I'm not totally sure about this idea yet. Nikon and many others do say to turn VR off when on a tripod.

Meanwhile, comparison pics below, still don't know if I approached this test right. All at "2000" mm.

1. With UV filter, VR on, tripod
1. With UV filter, VR on, tripod

2. No UV filter, VR on, tripod
2. No UV filter, VR on, tripod

With UV filter, VR off, tripod
With UV filter, VR off, tripod

4. Without UV filter, VR off, tripod
4. Without UV filter, VR off, tripod
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..Good tests, thanks for sharing! :-)

..just to let you know, that different lenses and with different cameras, may react differently with the lens filters..

..so far with my experience, the P1000 is more "sensitive" with lens filters, than with my P900..

..Cheers..
 
That's good to know...and perhaps the P1000 is even more sensitive at 2500 to 3000 than it is at 24mm, too! Hard to know....

I've never damaged either a lens or a filter, so it probably is OK to not have one at all to be sure of the best image! I always had them on my 35mm film camera lenses, and looking at them now, even these old filters are still in very good shape. So given that UV and protective filters really aren't needed on digital cameras (like they were on film cameras), it's probably a good thing to dispense with them entirely.

I think I regret buying these expensive filters for all my recent cameras and lenses I got this year. I wasted my money on them! :(
 
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CMCM said:
That's good to know...and perhaps the P1000 is even more sensitive at 2500 to 3000 than it is at 24mm, too! Hard to know....

I've never damaged either a lens or a filter, so it probably is OK to not have one at all to be sure of the best image! I always had them on my 35mm film camera lenses, and looking at them now, even these old filters are still in very good shape. So given that UV and protective filters really aren't needed on digital cameras (like they were on film cameras), it's probably a good thing to dispense with them entirely.

I think I regret buying these expensive filters for all my recent cameras and lenses I got this year. I wasted my money on them! :(
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..yes, the "good" lens filters are expensive..

..I don't have alot of them, but have some.. for me, I'm glad to have them around in case if need them..

..Cheers..
 
I guess I might want to use them if I were in a harsh environment, with blowing sand, etc.
 
CMCM said:
I guess I might want to use them if I were in a harsh environment, with blowing sand, etc.
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..That will be a good place for using it.. :-)

..Cheers..
 
jshen808 said:
..Good tests, thanks for sharing! :-)

..just to let you know, that different lenses and with different cameras, may react differently with the lens filters..

..so far with my experience, the P1000 is more "sensitive" with lens filters, than with my P900..

..Cheers..
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TRUE! I just recently discovered that my P1000 on a uv filter performs very bad when zooming in. But he P900 performs better even with a uv filter. But when i remove both uv filters from both cameras, the P1000 performs way better. Is there any other uv filter in the market that won't affect the P1000's performance specially when it comes to sharpness in detail? Thanks!
 
nathanojon said:
jshen808 said:
..Good tests, thanks for sharing! :-)

..just to let you know, that different lenses and with different cameras, may react differently with the lens filters..

..so far with my experience, the P1000 is more "sensitive" with lens filters, than with my P900..

..Cheers..
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TRUE! I just recently discovered that my P1000 on a uv filter performs very bad when zooming in. But he P900 performs better even with a uv filter. But when i remove both uv filters from both cameras, the P1000 performs way better. Is there any other uv filter in the market that won't affect the P1000's performance specially when it comes to sharpness in detail? Thanks!
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..Yes, different lens filters may yield different results..

..take a look at the thread below, and the post that I made..

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www.dpreview.com

..thanks for commenting & sharing!

..Cheers..
 
nathanojon said:
jshen808 said:
..Good tests, thanks for sharing! :-)

..just to let you know, that different lenses and with different cameras, may react differently with the lens filters..

..so far with my experience, the P1000 is more "sensitive" with lens filters, than with my P900..

..Cheers..
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TRUE! I just recently discovered that my P1000 on a uv filter performs very bad when zooming in. But he P900 performs better even with a uv filter. But when i remove both uv filters from both cameras, the P1000 performs way better. Is there any other uv filter in the market that won't affect the P1000's performance specially when it comes to sharpness in detail? Thanks!
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I have the P900, and awhile back I did some tests shooting samples with and without my B+W UV filter. I really couldn't see any difference at all so I concluded that it was a high quality filter and did not affect the photo. I have this type of filter on all my lenses, and although expensive, B+W is a highly rated brand.

Of course, the P1000 might be different...

 
As you know, I don't yet have a P1000 - but I've owned and used at least two dozen other digital cameras over the years. With those cameras, I'm convinced that a good quality UV filter (B+W, Hoya multicoated) will not degrade image recording. On the other hand, a poor UV filter can be disastrous.

The tests in your initial post make me think that your UV filter didn't diminish image quality.

But the us of UV filters is one of those long-running shouting shooting matches on which there will never be general agreement. 8-)
 
bill hansen said:
As you know, I don't yet have a P1000 - but I've owned and used at least two dozen other digital cameras over the years. With those cameras, I'm convinced that a good quality UV filter (B+W, Hoya multicoated) will not degrade image recording. On the other hand, a poor UV filter can be disastrous.

The tests in your initial post make me think that your UV filter didn't diminish image quality.

But the us of UV filters is one of those long-running shouting shooting matches on which there will never be general agreement. 8-)
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..Very true, and thanks for commenting & sharing! :-)

..Cheers..
 
Several weeks ago I did too. Next summer I’ll see if I was right... wishing you the best as well.

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Microshooter said:
Several weeks ago I did too. Next summer I’ll see if I was right... wishing you the best as well.
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..Thanks! :-)

..but it's probably best to place a protective lens filter on the P1000 to protect the front element.. it's because I unfortunately damaged mine after it came back from the first repair.. will explain more later after it comes back from Nikon..

..Cheers..
 
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jshen808 said:
Microshooter said:
Several weeks ago I did too. Next summer I’ll see if I was right... wishing you the best as well.
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..Thanks! :-)

..but it's probably best to place a protective lens filter on the P1000 to protect the front element.. it's because I unfortunately damaged mine after it came back from the first repair.. will explain more later after it comes back from Nikon..

..Cheers..
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Ouch!!! I didn’t know that was the reason. I leave my lens cap on until I’m ready to shoot...then pop it of.

If I lose a shot while trying to take it off again I may reconsider 😉
 
Microshooter said:
jshen808 said:
Microshooter said:
Several weeks ago I did too. Next summer I’ll see if I was right... wishing you the best as well.
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..Thanks! :-)

..but it's probably best to place a protective lens filter on the P1000 to protect the front element.. it's because I unfortunately damaged mine after it came back from the first repair.. will explain more later after it comes back from Nikon..

..Cheers..
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Ouch!!! I didn’t know that was the reason. I leave my lens cap on until I’m ready to shoot...then pop it of.

If I lose a shot while trying to take it off again I may reconsider 😉
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..yes, it was ouch..

..the damage was to the plastic around the lens..

..it must have happened as I was placing the lens cap back on the lens, it caught the edge of the plastic..

..this would not have happened if there was a protective filter..

..Cheers..
 
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