For your eyes

Morris0 · Sep 20, 2018

You may have noticed that I like to stare your eyes in my compositions and that I also love patterns. In this set of sanderling sandpiper images I'll be exploiting both in hope of using your eyes to stimulate your mind.

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-6

I'd love to know how you reacted to each image

Comments and suggestions welcome,

Morris

Kandid · Sep 22, 2018

Hi Morris

It seems clear that people (including me) are not seeing what you hoped to reveal with this set

What do you see that is being missed by others - because I feel that you are looking beyond straightforward portaits for a different sort of image and finding it (as most of us do) frustratingly hard to nail down

Please don't abandon the forum however as you give far more that you get..

BirdShooter7 · Sep 22, 2018

Neat set, I think 4 is my favorite.

Morris0 · Sep 23, 2018

Kandid said:
Hi Morris

It seems clear that people (including me) are not seeing what you hoped to reveal with this set

What do you see that is being missed by others - because I feel that you are looking beyond straightforward portaits for a different sort of image and finding it (as most of us do) frustratingly hard to nail down

Please don't abandon the forum however as you give far more that you get..

Hi Kandid,

The first 3 exercise patterns and DOF. I particularly like how a near infinite number of birds become OOF circles in the third. In 4 the movement of the birds translates into a curve of movement. 5 is all about patterns and 6 the diagonal of the 3 upper birds crossing the diagonal of warm light v dark cool light. On other sites I post a number of people called these things out.

Morris

Morris0 · Sep 23, 2018

BirdShooter7 said:
Neat set, I think 4 is my favorite.

Thank you Greg,

That image flows nicely

Morris

ThrillaMozilla · Sep 23, 2018

One thing is for sure. When people demand that you focus on the eyes, you couldn't miss with these.

Nice pictures.

Angel3010 · Sep 24, 2018

Morris0 said:
You may have noticed that I like to stare your eyes in my compositions and that I also love patterns. In this set of sanderling sandpiper images I'll be exploiting both in hope of using your eyes to stimulate your mind.

-1

I like this one. It's satisfying. Perhaps crop the bottom a bit.

Morris0 said:
-2

Good idea, but it'd try to focus a bird closer to the cluster. This way, it feels sketchy.

Morris0 said:
-3

I'd zoom a bit. Not bad overall.

Morris0 said:
-4

The one I like the least. Wider apperture wouldn't hurt, to get everything in focous.

Morris0 said:
-5

Also good one, but colours seem a little off. Was this late afternoon? Perhaps taking shot from the other side of birds would look better.

Morris0 said:
-6

One of my favourites, for sure, just crop a little to the clear bird in the middle, to put focus in it.

Morris0 said:
I'd love to know how you reacted to each image

Comments and suggestions welcome,

Morris

All in all, not bad set. You just need to figure out what do you exactly want to say with each image.

You need to put more focus on your main subject because otherwise composition seems to be all over the place.

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Morris0 · Sep 24, 2018

ThrillaMozilla said:
One thing is for sure. When people demand that you focus on the eyes, you couldn't miss with these. Nice pictures.

Thank you,

Morris

Morris0 · Sep 24, 2018

Angel3010 said:
Morris0 said:

You may have noticed that I like to stare your eyes in my compositions and that I also love patterns. In this set of sanderling sandpiper images I'll be exploiting both in hope of using your eyes to stimulate your mind.

-1

Click to expand...

I like this one. It's satisfying. Perhaps crop the bottom a bit.

Angel3010 said:

-2

Click to expand...

Good idea, but it'd try to focus a bird closer to the cluster. This way, it feels sketchy.

Angel3010 said:

-3

Click to expand...

I'd zoom a bit. Not bad overall.

Angel3010 said:

-4

Click to expand...

The one I like the least. Wider apperture wouldn't hurt, to get everything in focous.

Angel3010 said:

-5

Click to expand...

Also good one, but colours seem a little off. Was this late afternoon? Perhaps taking shot from the other side of birds would look better.

Angel3010 said:

-6

Click to expand...

One of my favourites, for sure, just crop a little to the clear bird in the middle, to put focus in it.

Angel3010 said:

I'd love to know how you reacted to each image

Comments and suggestions welcome,

Morris

Click to expand...

All in all, not bad set. You just need to figure out what do you exactly want to say with each image.

You need to put more focus on your main subject because otherwise composition seems to be all over the place.

Thank you Angel,

Main subject is flock and the patterns they create sometimes including the effects of the lens.

Morris

wolfbane · Sep 24, 2018

Thanks Morris,

From now on I will look at swarms of birds with more educated eyes, Alistair.

HRC2016 · Sep 24, 2018

I'm viewing on a smartphone and I think the image size will affect our interpretation.

I really like 6. Another poster mentioned the colors are off. For me, that's what makes the image unique.

On 3, it has an optical illusion quality. When I first viewed it the OOF birds in the back appeared to be in front. It reminded me of a dream sequence like you see on tv, when the "dream" is above the subject and slightly soft.

Hope this helps and thanks for sharing, Morris. It's always a treat to see your efforts.

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Morris0 · Sep 24, 2018

wolfbane said:
Thanks Morris,

From now on I will look at swarms of birds with more educated eyes, Alistair.

Thank you Alistair,

If this type of work interests you, take a look at Art Wolf's Migrations:

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artwolfe.com

I've had the pleasure of chatting with Art, an absolutely fascinating and brilliant man.

Morris

Morris0 · Sep 24, 2018

HRC2016 said:
I'm viewing on a smartphone and I think the image size will affect our interpretation.

I really like 6. Another poster mentioned the colors are off. For me, that's what makes the image unique.

On 3, it has an optical illusion quality. When I first viewed it the OOF birds in the back appeared to be in front. It reminded me of a dream sequence like you see on tv, when the "dream" is above the subject and slightly soft.

Hope this helps and thanks for sharing, Morris. It's always a treat to see your efforts.

Thank you HRC,

You are correct the viewing size will have a large impact. The color of 6 is correct for post sunset back light. It's a great example of the value of shooting during the magic hour.

I can see what you are seeing in 3. It is funny how our minds will invert positions when there are no clues. For me I see a transition form close and sharp to a ghostly infinity.

Morris

TheBlackGrouse · Sep 25, 2018

Really like your idea but you know you can do better

The light of the first two is great and the composition and DOF of the first are perfect. Unfortunately the birds are running away from the photographer, giving some sort of unpleasant feeling (disturbance, stress). Number five shows them in the right posture but the light was difficult.

Sanderlings are not easy, always running in backlight. They are approachable sometimes, I've been at 2 meters but had to crawl like a seal for an hour. Admittedly, this seldom happens.

The good thing, you always have a second chance with these birds. They stay at the shoreline for weeks/months, at least over here were they are winter guests.

Morris0 · Sep 25, 2018

TheBlackGrouse said:
Really like your idea but you know you can do better

The light of the first two is great and the composition and DOF of the first are perfect. Unfortunately the birds are running away from the photographer, giving some sort of unpleasant feeling (disturbance, stress). Number five shows them in the right posture but the light was difficult.

Sanderlings are not easy, always running in backlight. They are approachable sometimes, I've been at 2 meters but had to crawl like a seal for an hour. Admittedly, this seldom happens.

The good thing, you always have a second chance with these birds. They stay at the shoreline for weeks/months, at least over here were they are winter guests.

Thank you,

I had one walk right up to me. I posted this image in the last two weeks.

Morris

CMCM · Sep 26, 2018

Morris0 said:
You may have noticed that I like to stare your eyes in my compositions and that I also love patterns. In this set of sanderling sandpiper images I'll be exploiting both in hope of using your eyes to stimulate your mind.

-1

-2

-3

-4

-5

-6

I'd love to know how you reacted to each image

Comments and suggestions welcome,

Morris

No fancy stuff here with me because I'm no expert, but here are some quick reactions as I looked at these:

1. Love this one. The entire frame is filled with birds, but only the center ones are sharp, drawing my attention right to them, and you get a nice feeling of mass movement.

2. I like this one too. My attention went right to that little fellow in the middle, who seems to be striding firmly forward.

3 Less interesting, not quite sure why. I liked #1 much better.

4. I don't much like this one, the birds are too small to be interesting, nothing compelling in the frame.

5. I like this one! Rush hour for birds, and I like the dark tone of it and the wet sand. They're all going the same direction, too!

6. Not so much, I don't like the dark area that cuts across diagonally.

Overall, what I took away from this was that I generally seemed to prefer the selective focus areas that were in the center, with out of focus birds in the distance as well as close, creating a kind of framing. That really brought my attention in.

Damnerd · Sep 27, 2018

They all look like 5th avenue during rush hour, to this country boy, to busy and lack a single subject I feel is 'safe' enough to look at. Only singleness of purpose I see is safety in numbers.

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Don M
"If your position does not withstand scrutiny of logic, resort to political correctness to deny others their first amendment rights to argue logic."

TheBlackGrouse · Sep 27, 2018

Damnerd said:
They all look like 5th avenue during rush hour, to this country boy, to busy and lack a single subject I feel is 'safe' enough to look at. Only singleness of purpose I see is safety in numbers.

Probably Morris wanted to give an impression of the typical behavior of this species: running around in groups at the shoreline, following the waves. Watch them for an hour and you start running too.

Morris0 · Sep 28, 2018

CMCM said:
Morris0 said:

You may have noticed that I like to stare your eyes in my compositions and that I also love patterns. In this set of sanderling sandpiper images I'll be exploiting both in hope of using your eyes to stimulate your mind.

-1

-2

-3

-4

-5

-6

I'd love to know how you reacted to each image

Comments and suggestions welcome,

Morris

Click to expand...

No fancy stuff here with me because I'm no expert, but here are some quick reactions as I looked at these:

1. Love this one. The entire frame is filled with birds, but only the center ones are sharp, drawing my attention right to them, and you get a nice feeling of mass movement.

2. I like this one too. My attention went right to that little fellow in the middle, who seems to be striding firmly forward.

3 Less interesting, not quite sure why. I liked #1 much better.

4. I don't much like this one, the birds are too small to be interesting, nothing compelling in the frame.

5. I like this one! Rush hour for birds, and I like the dark tone of it and the wet sand. They're all going the same direction, too!

6. Not so much, I don't like the dark area that cuts across diagonally.

Overall, what I took away from this was that I generally seemed to prefer the selective focus areas that were in the center, with out of focus birds in the distance as well as close, creating a kind of framing. That really brought my attention in.

Thank you,

Center subject is usually not recommended as our eyes spend the least time on this area. As you demonstrate in your helpful reactions it can be made to work.

Morris

Morris0 · Sep 28, 2018

Damnerd said:
They all look like 5th avenue during rush hour, to this country boy, to busy and lack a single subject I feel is 'safe' enough to look at. Only singleness of purpose I see is safety in numbers.

Thank you Don,

5th avenue about twice as dense during rush hour

Morris

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