Poll Question: Do you care about video or not when buying camera?

Poll Question: Do you care about video or not when buying camera?


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Given that Fuji has historically been poor at video, it is unlikely to have been a priority for most existing users, or they would have bought a different brand of camera. Now that the X-T3 is very good at video, Fuji will attract a different group of users. In a year or two a poll will yield different results.
 
Very good point John. I also would be curious to know what the percentage of this same group shoot jpg or raw. Video does take more effort for sure. Those of us in the "yes" to video group would say it's worth it. Friends and family give a glance to a photo, some a longer glance than others. The time it takes me to put together a thoughtful two minute video is about relative to the amount of time of consumption, as compared to the time to consumption ratio of a photo. I take a ton of photos as well. Usually I find that when I'm just observing someone or something in a moment I snap a photo. When I'm part of experiencing the moment I take a video. Perhaps the split in content creation comes from a difference in lifestyle?
 
Yes. I have recently done research into new cameras and am thinking about getting a Fuji XT2 over other camera brands, one main reason is because it can have a flat color profile in video, which is something that I think video's been missing for some time, and I think that 4k is great enough quality to obtain decent photos from, while HD isn't really great for that. I've been comparing the XT2 w/Full Frame cams but overall the XT2, despite having a smaller sensor, seems to rival the full frames, and full frame with 4k is just prohibitively expensive at the time of this writing. In my opinion, full frame isn't all that much better than APS-C, taking everything into consideration.
 
If the XT2 is capable of shooting eterna in camera, that's a winner. I use the H1 and from all my tests the internal eterna looks much better than flog to eterna conversion. With DR set to 400 it puts the camera in the same 800 ISO and gets you so close to the DR of flog without the hassle of a full log grade. Internal eterna is worth the price of admission itself.
 
Interesting. I don't know if I I'd rather upgrade my camera at the moment or wait until I can get an X-H1. My budget is relatively small at the moment, but I should probably consider the XH1. I haven't thought much about video in the past and I don't know all that much about it. I'm willing to learn though.
 
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I'm getting an X-T3 for video use. As you have said, there will be many more Fuji video users soon. There will also be even less Canon video users soon.

I purchased Canon gear back when they cared about video (550D & 5DII era). Now I'm looking at Fuji because Canon abandoned that market and Fuji is aiming for it.
 
With the introduction of new video capabilities in Fujifilm cameras, are video features or video capability a part of your buying decision.
I bought my X-T20s for their video capabilities. I was completely happy with the image quality of my X-A1s before that, even though I wished they had better AF.

I find myself now, not only shooting longer projets, but also more and more memories. There's no denying that watching a short video brings back memory in a much more immersive way than a set of photos.

Like it or not, video is now where the battle is between manufacturers. As for static images, they have reached a level of "much more than good enough" quality from most manufacturers and for most people. That being said, I also think that Fuji has the most pleasant colours straight out of camera :)
That's not what the result of the vote shows.

I used to get shouted down when I said didn't want to pay for video and its research when I don't use it. I've had 6 Fuji cameras - still have 4 and still don't want video. All those who said it doesn't cost anymore seem to forget all the R&D. I started with low quality X-Pro1 video I didn't need and now I have 2 x 4k video capable bodies in my collection which I don't need but R&D which I paid for. Why can we not have a non-video camera and charge only those who want the video? There are B&W only cameras so it's not a strange request.

Vic
 
Why can we not have a non-video camera and charge only those who want the video?
Because then users like myself won’t invest in Fuji and will result in less money for Fuji to spend on stills R&D.
There are B&W only cameras so it's not a strange request.
Those B&W cameras tend to be very niche, massively overpriced and a novelty for those with plenty of expendable cash.

If your argument is oi don’t want to pay for more, why are you advocating paying more for less?
 
Why can we not have a non-video camera and charge only those who want the video?
Because then users like myself won’t invest in Fuji and will result in less money for Fuji to spend on stills R&D.
There are B&W only cameras so it's not a strange request.
Those B&W cameras tend to be very niche, massively overpriced and a novelty for those with plenty of expendable cash.

If your argument is oi don’t want to pay for more, why are you advocating paying more for less?
On the other hand if a significant amount of R&D is directed toward R&D then "users like yourself" going other places would not impact Fuji - now would it.

No one is saying Fuji should not have a camera or two that supports video - but maybe not all the line up needs to.
 
They offer less video capable cameras and even the ones with fantastic video features have equally good if not better stills features. If there’s a feature you don’t want, don’t use it.

The days of stills only cameras will soon be gone. None of my fellow wedding/events photographers I know can get away with just offering stills nowadays. Fuji know this like almost every other brand. Video features sell.
 
Why can we not have a non-video camera and charge only those who want the video?
Because then users like myself won’t invest in Fuji and will result in less money for Fuji to spend on stills R&D.
There are B&W only cameras so it's not a strange request.
Those B&W cameras tend to be very niche, massively overpriced and a novelty for those with plenty of expendable cash.

If your argument is oi don’t want to pay for more, why are you advocating paying more for less?
With none of the income being spent on video we can manage without you.

I have not advocated BW only - I pointed out that to have a non video would in no way be strange. There are plenty of video capable cameras.

No one came to Fuji for video 8 years ago or even 4 years ago and there was no great upsurge in ownership for the better video. As some else has pointed out - why if the video is so good, are there no good videos on youtube etc. Technically good yes but not not good videos so it's all been a waste.

As the poll results show - 75% of us are paying for video used by 25% so for all the advances made in video spec nothing has changed, it is still being used no greater a percentage of Fujistas than it was 8 years ago. The same old pretty average video would still do what most want.

Vic
 
Interesting. I don't know if I I'd rather upgrade my camera at the moment or wait until I can get an X-H1. My budget is relatively small at the moment, but I should probably consider the XH1. I haven't thought much about video in the past and I don't know all that much about it. I'm willing to learn though.
 
I'd like to care more about video, but the workflow for producing good stuff is too much effort.

I know this might be sacrilege, but what would tempt me to take more video is better AI auto-creation from a footage library.
Me too.
 
This is an interesting question to me, because if you had asked me in 2016 when I purchased my X-T2, I would have definitely voted “no”, but since having my first child, my answer is now firmly a “yes”. Having beautiful videos of my little one with my Fujifilm lense selection is such a pleasure to watch compared to the quick and dirty videos taken on my iPhone (also a place and time for such videos, but man do my X-T2 videos shine!)

But yeah, when it was just me and the husband... we probably never even shot a single video on our cameras back then. My childless friends with pets agree, so I wonder if the demand for video is more prevalent among those with children/pets?
 
I care about video, I take videos with my XT2 because I like using the fast primes. But I don’t care about 4K per se, which means I don’t care if the camera crops in 4K, has 120fps, or has eye AF specifically for video. Most cameras take decent HD video so it doesn’t factor in buying a stills camera.
 
As the poll results show - 75% of us are paying for video used by 25% so for all the advances made in video spec nothing has changed, it is still being used no greater a percentage of Fujistas than it was 8 years ago. The same old pretty average video would still do what most want.
One should take into consideration, that creating a poll within such specific place as DPR is, results won't represent true actual distribution between stills and video shooters. DPR is mostly photo oriented.

I'm not saying, that Fuji cameras are used more for video than stills, however video users are comming more and more into Fuji camp. That should made Fuji sell more cameras, thus enabling even better grounds for their R&D department.

Let's face it, video capabilities enhancements are nowdays driving still capabilities improvements.
 
With the introduction of new video capabilities in Fujifilm cameras, are video features or video capability a part of your buying decision.
Making good real videos is so time consuming, that i'm taking photographs only. In theory those fantastic things are really fantastic and tempting. I can imagine how great videos it is possible to create, 4K, great sound , IQ and all

BUT

where are all those technically perfect videos ? I have found some 4K videos from Youtube when i wanted to see 4K ... those videos were extremely boring, only technically rather good looking image quality.

What is the point in making great gear, but obviously very very few can shoot videos ?
What’s the point in making great still cameras when so many people can’t shoot great photos?

Sal
Nice to know , that my camera can take videos - i know that nobody wants to see my great videos if i start one day.

There is of course the remote possibility, that i have a camera with me and i can use it when something exceptional happens - like aliens visiting or something.

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Kari
I started SLR photography in 1968, first DSLR was Canon 40D in 2007. Now Fujifilm X-E3 and the new 80D are my favourites - also 6D for landscapes and some portraits.
 
Video capabilities of the X-T1 were pretty marginal.

I’m NOT buying the X-T3 for its Video features, but since it should be CONSIDERABLY better in this regard, I DO expect to use them occasionally.

But if I was SERIOUS about shooting Video, I would buy a dedicated Video Camera.
 
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With the introduction of new video capabilities in Fujifilm cameras, are video features or video capability a part of your buying decision.
I bought my X-T20s for their video capabilities. I was completely happy with the image quality of my X-A1s before that, even though I wished they had better AF.

I find myself now, not only shooting longer projets, but also more and more memories. There's no denying that watching a short video brings back memory in a much more immersive way than a set of photos.

Like it or not, video is now where the battle is between manufacturers. As for static images, they have reached a level of "much more than good enough" quality from most manufacturers and for most people. That being said, I also think that Fuji has the most pleasant colours straight out of camera :)
That's not what the result of the vote shows.

I used to get shouted down when I said didn't want to pay for video and its research when I don't use it. I've had 6 Fuji cameras - still have 4 and still don't want video. All those who said it doesn't cost anymore seem to forget all the R&D. I started with low quality X-Pro1 video I didn't need and now I have 2 x 4k video capable bodies in my collection which I don't need but R&D which I paid for. Why can we not have a non-video camera and charge only those who want the video? There are B&W only cameras so it's not a strange request.

Vic
 
With the introduction of new video capabilities in Fujifilm cameras, are video features or video capability a part of your buying decision.
I bought my X-T20s for their video capabilities. I was completely happy with the image quality of my X-A1s before that, even though I wished they had better AF.

I find myself now, not only shooting longer projets, but also more and more memories. There's no denying that watching a short video brings back memory in a much more immersive way than a set of photos.

Like it or not, video is now where the battle is between manufacturers. As for static images, they have reached a level of "much more than good enough" quality from most manufacturers and for most people. That being said, I also think that Fuji has the most pleasant colours straight out of camera :)
That's not what the result of the vote shows.

I used to get shouted down when I said didn't want to pay for video and its research when I don't use it. I've had 6 Fuji cameras - still have 4 and still don't want video. All those who said it doesn't cost anymore seem to forget all the R&D. I started with low quality X-Pro1 video I didn't need and now I have 2 x 4k video capable bodies in my collection which I don't need but R&D which I paid for. Why can we not have a non-video camera and charge only those who want the video? There are B&W only cameras so it's not a strange request.

Vic
I totally agree. I also got shouted down when asked for non video camera very lately. Very happy to see the vote of this post. It clearly show that most votes do not want/care about video. If Fuji can remove video and sell a cheaper and simpler model, it will sale. At least more than one that I will buy.

Great post, op.
If you guys intend you buy a couple of thousand non video cameras each maybe it will be worthwhile to make but even then I doubt if there would be any profit in to to sell 135 cameras at last count ..... dream on Fuji is not your personal camera maker

The R&D is about all cameras not just one model
 

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