G3 exposure latitude: solutions and examples

Chuck Martin

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Hello all,

Some recent posts prompted me to wrap up my exposure latitude project with the G3, and I am presenting the results here. The first steps were to define the built-in exposure response of the G3, and a desired modified response providing enhanced exposure latitude. These are portrayed at the link below as curves created by plotting the Photoshop RGB value as a function of exposure. The response curves were then used to create Photoshop Curves that could be used to convert a deliberately underexposed image into a properly exposed one having enhanced exposure latitude. The Photoshop Curves definitions for various levels of underexposure are shown in a table at the same link.

Use of the Photoshop Curves definitions is shown in the first five photos. Photo #1 is of a contrasty scene properly exposed for the shaded portions, but having badly blown highlights and a washed out sky. Photos #2 and #3 are of the same scene, but with one and two stops less exposure respectively. Photo #4 is Photo #2 with the appropriate Photoshop Curves definition applied. Midtones have the same intensity as in Photo #1, but the highlights now show significant detail. Increased noise and loss of detail in the shadows is minimal. Photo #5 is Photo #3 with the Photoshop Curves definition for two stops underexposure applied. Again, midtones have the same intensity as in Photo #1, but now highlights show even more improvement than in Photo #4. Unfortunately, noise and loss of detail in the shadows are becoming quite noticeable.

Wouldn't it be nice if detail could be added to the highlights without adverse effects in the shadows? Well for static subjects it can. Photos #6 and #7 show the results of merging light and dark photos using the following procedure in Photoshop:

For dark photo (#2 or #3)
1. Correct with appropriate Curves definition

2. Lighten midtones and shadows in Levels by shifting middle slider left to give a reading of 1.15 to 1.30
3. Select All
4. Copy

For light photo (#1)
1. Paste
2. Change layer blending from Normal to Darken
3. Flatten layers

That's it. The merged photo now shows shadow and midtone detail from the noise-free light photo, and highlight detail from the dark photo. The trick is in using the Darken blending mode, and in making certain that the shadows and midtones in the corrected dark photo are lighter than in the light photo.

I know this explanation is sketchy, but I don't want to waste my time unless interest is shown.

Enjoy,

Chuck

http://www.pbase.com/chuck_martin/latitude
 
Chuck,

Wow! I wasn't even aware anyone was working on a project of this scope and magnitude! I don't have time right now to check out your results but kudos for taking the time to investigate. It seems there a whole lot of G3 advocates out there who are not sounding their approval of this camera and it is refreshing to see someone working to examine the finer points of the G3.

It seems there are a whole lot of people who own the camera and want more information about its capabilities but this test of yours starts to nail down some brass tacks.

I would be interested in hearing some of your comments about workflow and RAW conversion as this has been a particular point of interest for me.
I will be posting more as I get a chance to examine your results further.

Regards,

Mike
Hello all,

Some recent posts prompted me to wrap up my exposure latitude
project with the G3, and I am presenting the results here. The
first steps were to define the built-in exposure response of the
G3, and a desired modified response providing enhanced exposure
latitude. These are portrayed at the link below as curves created
by plotting the Photoshop RGB value as a function of exposure. The
response curves were then used to create Photoshop Curves that
could be used to convert a deliberately underexposed image into a
properly exposed one having enhanced exposure latitude. The
Photoshop Curves definitions for various levels of underexposure
are shown in a table at the same link.

Use of the Photoshop Curves definitions is shown in the first five
photos. Photo #1 is of a contrasty scene properly exposed for the
shaded portions, but having badly blown highlights and a washed out
sky. Photos #2 and #3 are of the same scene, but with one and two
stops less exposure respectively. Photo #4 is Photo #2 with the
appropriate Photoshop Curves definition applied. Midtones have the
same intensity as in Photo #1, but the highlights now show
significant detail. Increased noise and loss of detail in the
shadows is minimal. Photo #5 is Photo #3 with the Photoshop Curves
definition for two stops underexposure applied. Again, midtones
have the same intensity as in Photo #1, but now highlights show
even more improvement than in Photo #4. Unfortunately, noise and
loss of detail in the shadows are becoming quite noticeable.

Wouldn't it be nice if detail could be added to the highlights
without adverse effects in the shadows? Well for static subjects
it can. Photos #6 and #7 show the results of merging light and
dark photos using the following procedure in Photoshop:

For dark photo (#2 or #3)
1. Correct with appropriate Curves definition
2. Lighten midtones and shadows in Levels by shifting middle
slider left to give a reading of 1.15 to 1.30
3. Select All
4. Copy

For light photo (#1)
1. Paste
2. Change layer blending from Normal to Darken
3. Flatten layers

That's it. The merged photo now shows shadow and midtone detail
from the noise-free light photo, and highlight detail from the dark
photo. The trick is in using the Darken blending mode, and in
making certain that the shadows and midtones in the corrected dark
photo are lighter than in the light photo.

I know this explanation is sketchy, but I don't want to waste my
time unless interest is shown.

Enjoy,

Chuck

http://www.pbase.com/chuck_martin/latitude
 
Chuck,

Had a chance to examine your test further. Sorry, thought you were attempting to show the true exposure latitude (dynamic range) of the G3 without the layer blending effect. I know this is a cool effect but its useful application is limited to specific photo applications. Nevertheless a nice test and helpful to those interested in the blend feature.

Regards,

G
Hello all,

Some recent posts prompted me to wrap up my exposure latitude
project with the G3, and I am presenting the results here. The
first steps were to define the built-in exposure response of the
G3, and a desired modified response providing enhanced exposure
latitude. These are portrayed at the link below as curves created
by plotting the Photoshop RGB value as a function of exposure. The
response curves were then used to create Photoshop Curves that
could be used to convert a deliberately underexposed image into a
properly exposed one having enhanced exposure latitude. The
Photoshop Curves definitions for various levels of underexposure
are shown in a table at the same link.

Use of the Photoshop Curves definitions is shown in the first five
photos. Photo #1 is of a contrasty scene properly exposed for the
shaded portions, but having badly blown highlights and a washed out
sky. Photos #2 and #3 are of the same scene, but with one and two
stops less exposure respectively. Photo #4 is Photo #2 with the
appropriate Photoshop Curves definition applied. Midtones have the
same intensity as in Photo #1, but the highlights now show
significant detail. Increased noise and loss of detail in the
shadows is minimal. Photo #5 is Photo #3 with the Photoshop Curves
definition for two stops underexposure applied. Again, midtones
have the same intensity as in Photo #1, but now highlights show
even more improvement than in Photo #4. Unfortunately, noise and
loss of detail in the shadows are becoming quite noticeable.

Wouldn't it be nice if detail could be added to the highlights
without adverse effects in the shadows? Well for static subjects
it can. Photos #6 and #7 show the results of merging light and
dark photos using the following procedure in Photoshop:

For dark photo (#2 or #3)
1. Correct with appropriate Curves definition
2. Lighten midtones and shadows in Levels by shifting middle
slider left to give a reading of 1.15 to 1.30
3. Select All
4. Copy

For light photo (#1)
1. Paste
2. Change layer blending from Normal to Darken
3. Flatten layers

That's it. The merged photo now shows shadow and midtone detail
from the noise-free light photo, and highlight detail from the dark
photo. The trick is in using the Darken blending mode, and in
making certain that the shadows and midtones in the corrected dark
photo are lighter than in the light photo.

I know this explanation is sketchy, but I don't want to waste my
time unless interest is shown.

Enjoy,

Chuck

http://www.pbase.com/chuck_martin/latitude
 
Interesting test. It raises a few questions in my mind:
  • Would your conclusion be that by using blending we can extend the dynamic range of the G3 (and probably most CCD-based cameras) by 1 stop without too much effort and by 2 stops with a bit more work?
  • Do you think attempting to go beyond 2 stops is worthwhile?
  • Do you think that by stacking two under-exposed photos with the normally exposed one we would also get rid of much of the random noise?
Hello all,

Some recent posts prompted me to wrap up my exposure latitude
project with the G3, and I am presenting the results here. The
first steps were to define the built-in exposure response of the
G3, and a desired modified response providing enhanced exposure
latitude. These are portrayed at the link below as curves created
by plotting the Photoshop RGB value as a function of exposure. The
response curves were then used to create Photoshop Curves that
could be used to convert a deliberately underexposed image into a
properly exposed one having enhanced exposure latitude. The
Photoshop Curves definitions for various levels of underexposure
are shown in a table at the same link.

Use of the Photoshop Curves definitions is shown in the first five
photos. Photo #1 is of a contrasty scene properly exposed for the
shaded portions, but having badly blown highlights and a washed out
sky. Photos #2 and #3 are of the same scene, but with one and two
stops less exposure respectively. Photo #4 is Photo #2 with the
appropriate Photoshop Curves definition applied. Midtones have the
same intensity as in Photo #1, but the highlights now show
significant detail. Increased noise and loss of detail in the
shadows is minimal. Photo #5 is Photo #3 with the Photoshop Curves
definition for two stops underexposure applied. Again, midtones
have the same intensity as in Photo #1, but now highlights show
even more improvement than in Photo #4. Unfortunately, noise and
loss of detail in the shadows are becoming quite noticeable.

Wouldn't it be nice if detail could be added to the highlights
without adverse effects in the shadows? Well for static subjects
it can. Photos #6 and #7 show the results of merging light and
dark photos using the following procedure in Photoshop:

For dark photo (#2 or #3)
1. Correct with appropriate Curves definition
2. Lighten midtones and shadows in Levels by shifting middle
slider left to give a reading of 1.15 to 1.30
3. Select All
4. Copy

For light photo (#1)
1. Paste
2. Change layer blending from Normal to Darken
3. Flatten layers

That's it. The merged photo now shows shadow and midtone detail
from the noise-free light photo, and highlight detail from the dark
photo. The trick is in using the Darken blending mode, and in
making certain that the shadows and midtones in the corrected dark
photo are lighter than in the light photo.

I know this explanation is sketchy, but I don't want to waste my
time unless interest is shown.

Enjoy,

Chuck

http://www.pbase.com/chuck_martin/latitude
 
Wish there was a way I can take advantage of this w/out upgrading to a full version of Photoshop. I've only been using 5.0 LE for minor retouching all this time.

Man
Hello all,

Some recent posts prompted me to wrap up my exposure latitude
project with the G3, and I am presenting the results here. The
first steps were to define the built-in exposure response of the
G3, and a desired modified response providing enhanced exposure
latitude. These are portrayed at the link below as curves created
by plotting the Photoshop RGB value as a function of exposure. The
response curves were then used to create Photoshop Curves that
could be used to convert a deliberately underexposed image into a
properly exposed one having enhanced exposure latitude. The
Photoshop Curves definitions for various levels of underexposure
are shown in a table at the same link.

Use of the Photoshop Curves definitions is shown in the first five
photos. Photo #1 is of a contrasty scene properly exposed for the
shaded portions, but having badly blown highlights and a washed out
sky. Photos #2 and #3 are of the same scene, but with one and two
stops less exposure respectively. Photo #4 is Photo #2 with the
appropriate Photoshop Curves definition applied. Midtones have the
same intensity as in Photo #1, but the highlights now show
significant detail. Increased noise and loss of detail in the
shadows is minimal. Photo #5 is Photo #3 with the Photoshop Curves
definition for two stops underexposure applied. Again, midtones
have the same intensity as in Photo #1, but now highlights show
even more improvement than in Photo #4. Unfortunately, noise and
loss of detail in the shadows are becoming quite noticeable.

Wouldn't it be nice if detail could be added to the highlights
without adverse effects in the shadows? Well for static subjects
it can. Photos #6 and #7 show the results of merging light and
dark photos using the following procedure in Photoshop:

For dark photo (#2 or #3)
1. Correct with appropriate Curves definition
2. Lighten midtones and shadows in Levels by shifting middle
slider left to give a reading of 1.15 to 1.30
3. Select All
4. Copy

For light photo (#1)
1. Paste
2. Change layer blending from Normal to Darken
3. Flatten layers

That's it. The merged photo now shows shadow and midtone detail
from the noise-free light photo, and highlight detail from the dark
photo. The trick is in using the Darken blending mode, and in
making certain that the shadows and midtones in the corrected dark
photo are lighter than in the light photo.

I know this explanation is sketchy, but I don't want to waste my
time unless interest is shown.

Enjoy,

Chuck

http://www.pbase.com/chuck_martin/latitude
 
The actual measured exposure response of the G3 is shown in blue on the graph. The green curve is an extended response that can be produced by underexposing and then correcting using Photoshop Curves as shown in Photos #4 and #5. The blending technique shown in Photos #6 and #7 is a refinement used to reduce noise.

Chuck
Chuck,
Had a chance to examine your test further. Sorry, thought you were
attempting to show the true exposure latitude (dynamic range) of
the G3 without the layer blending effect. I know this is a cool
effect but its useful application is limited to specific photo
applications. Nevertheless a nice test and helpful to those
interested in the blend feature.
 
Q1: I personally feel that the dynamic range of the G3 can be extended one stop just by underexposing one stop then correcting in Curves, no blending required. I didn't find the slight additional noise and loss of detail in the shadows at all objectionable. Underexposing two stops then correcting in Curves produces more noise and loss of detail in the shadows than I would like to see. Adding the blending technique can eliminate the the noise and restore shadow detail.

Q2: Before I stumbled across the blending technique, I would have said no. Now, I think it is worth a try to go to 3 stops. The blending technique I describe is extremely simple and straightforward, it takes more time to describe than to execute. The real problem is getting paired images that are exactly the same. I used the auto bracket feature and the remote release. Even then I picked up some changes in position of the leaves of the tree in the foreground.

Q3: I'm sorry, I just don't understand what you are suggesting.

Chuck
Interesting test. It raises a few questions in my mind:
  • Would your conclusion be that by using blending we can extend the
dynamic range of the G3 (and probably most CCD-based cameras) by 1
stop without too much effort and by 2 stops with a bit more work?
  • Do you think attempting to go beyond 2 stops is worthwhile?
  • Do you think that by stacking two under-exposed photos with the
normally exposed one we would also get rid of much of the random
noise?
 
I couldn't reproduce the result using "darken" blending mode. Simply the top layer(in darken mode) dominates and turning the bottom layer on or off doesn't change anything.

There are other ways to blend multiple expsures
http://www.luminous-landscape.com/tutorials/blended_exposures.shtml

Or if you want to enhance shadows in a single dark exposure
http:///www.shadowilluminator.org

Vlad
Hello all,

Some recent posts prompted me to wrap up my exposure latitude
project with the G3, and I am presenting the results here. The
first steps were to define the built-in exposure response of the
G3, and a desired modified response providing enhanced exposure
latitude. These are portrayed at the link below as curves created
by plotting the Photoshop RGB value as a function of exposure. The
response curves were then used to create Photoshop Curves that
could be used to convert a deliberately underexposed image into a
properly exposed one having enhanced exposure latitude. The
Photoshop Curves definitions for various levels of underexposure
are shown in a table at the same link.

Use of the Photoshop Curves definitions is shown in the first five
photos. Photo #1 is of a contrasty scene properly exposed for the
shaded portions, but having badly blown highlights and a washed out
sky. Photos #2 and #3 are of the same scene, but with one and two
stops less exposure respectively. Photo #4 is Photo #2 with the
appropriate Photoshop Curves definition applied. Midtones have the
same intensity as in Photo #1, but the highlights now show
significant detail. Increased noise and loss of detail in the
shadows is minimal. Photo #5 is Photo #3 with the Photoshop Curves
definition for two stops underexposure applied. Again, midtones
have the same intensity as in Photo #1, but now highlights show
even more improvement than in Photo #4. Unfortunately, noise and
loss of detail in the shadows are becoming quite noticeable.

Wouldn't it be nice if detail could be added to the highlights
without adverse effects in the shadows? Well for static subjects
it can. Photos #6 and #7 show the results of merging light and
dark photos using the following procedure in Photoshop:

For dark photo (#2 or #3)
1. Correct with appropriate Curves definition
2. Lighten midtones and shadows in Levels by shifting middle
slider left to give a reading of 1.15 to 1.30
3. Select All
4. Copy

For light photo (#1)
1. Paste
2. Change layer blending from Normal to Darken
3. Flatten layers

That's it. The merged photo now shows shadow and midtone detail
from the noise-free light photo, and highlight detail from the dark
photo. The trick is in using the Darken blending mode, and in
making certain that the shadows and midtones in the corrected dark
photo are lighter than in the light photo.

I know this explanation is sketchy, but I don't want to waste my
time unless interest is shown.

Enjoy,

Chuck

http://www.pbase.com/chuck_martin/latitude
--
Vladimir Brajovic
Remove shadows from your photographs at http://www.shadowilluminator.org
 
Thanks Chuck,

Forget about question 3, I was mixing too many things together there.

For the main problem, that is the tiny camera shake, even on a tripod, and the movement of leaves, etc.. I came up to a particular piece of blending software FDRExposer that seems to offer some kind of solution with the concept of an "anchor image". I have not tried it, so i cannot say whether it is worth anything. That blending software also seems to handle 48bit tiff, so this could fix the major Photoshop limitation of layers working in 8bits per channel only.

There are other issues with blending, including the "transfer response curve" that makes high quality results difficult to achieve. It seems that FDRExposer attempts to tackle these issues.

I wonder if anyone has tried that software? You'll find a description at

http://www.andreas-schoemann.de/fdrtools/fdrexposer/fdrexposer_e.php
Q2: Before I stumbled across the blending technique, I would have
said no. Now, I think it is worth a try to go to 3 stops. The
blending technique I describe is extremely simple and
straightforward, it takes more time to describe than to execute.
The real problem is getting paired images that are exactly the
same. I used the auto bracket feature and the remote release.
Even then I picked up some changes in position of the leaves of the
tree in the foreground.

Q3: I'm sorry, I just don't understand what you are suggesting.

Chuck
Interesting test. It raises a few questions in my mind:
  • Would your conclusion be that by using blending we can extend the
dynamic range of the G3 (and probably most CCD-based cameras) by 1
stop without too much effort and by 2 stops with a bit more work?
  • Do you think attempting to go beyond 2 stops is worthwhile?
  • Do you think that by stacking two under-exposed photos with the
normally exposed one we would also get rid of much of the random
noise?
 
Hi Chuck,

Thank you for such a quick and simple fix for this problem. I always shoot with autoexposure bracketing and have never quite gotten the hang of blending tutorials that I've read. Not good with Photoshop Elements yet.

Yours is so simple and easy and quite effective. I really appreciate your sharing it. I just used to toss the other 2 exposures, all the while wishing I could use something from them, without having to make selections and spend lots of time on the process.

Limited dynamic range of these cameras, and noise problems when changing exposure settings in Photoshop has been my biggest headache thus far, with frequent application of Neat Image for the noise.

I just wonder how many boats I'll have to lash together down at the harbor to keep them still, confoundit! :-)

Jeff
 
Hmmm... Looks very interesting, especially since I can't do blending w/ PS 5.0 LE. There's a trial version for use w/

Man
I came up to a particular
piece of blending software FDRExposer that seems to offer some kind
of solution with the concept of an "anchor image". I have not tried
it, so i cannot say whether it is worth anything. That blending
software also seems to handle 48bit tiff, so this could fix the
major Photoshop limitation of layers working in 8bits per channel
only.

There are other issues with blending, including the "transfer
response curve" that makes high quality results difficult to
achieve. It seems that FDRExposer attempts to tackle these issues.

I wonder if anyone has tried that software? You'll find a
description at

http://www.andreas-schoemann.de/fdrtools/fdrexposer/fdrexposer_e.php
 
Man-Fai, please tell us what you find when you have tried it.
is not bad at all if it really works well for high quality results
and is easy to use.

Man
I came up to a particular
piece of blending software FDRExposer that seems to offer some kind
of solution with the concept of an "anchor image". I have not tried
it, so i cannot say whether it is worth anything. That blending
software also seems to handle 48bit tiff, so this could fix the
major Photoshop limitation of layers working in 8bits per channel
only.

There are other issues with blending, including the "transfer
response curve" that makes high quality results difficult to
achieve. It seems that FDRExposer attempts to tackle these issues.

I wonder if anyone has tried that software? You'll find a
description at

http://www.andreas-schoemann.de/fdrtools/fdrexposer/fdrexposer_e.php
 
Vlad,

You must have skipped a step. For the technique to work, the dark image must first be corrected using the Curves definition appropriate for the amount of "underexposure". This produces the same midtone intensities in both the light image and the corrected dark image. However, because of the type of correction applied to the dark image it now shows greater highlight density than was present in the light image. The result of the Curves correction alone is shown in Photos #4 and #5.

The next step is to further lighten the dark image using Levels. This raises the shadow and midtone values of the corrected dark image to values higher (lighter) than in the light image, yet leaves the highlights at values which are still lower (darker) than in the light image. This is the "trick" I mentioned in my original post.

When the modified dark image is blended with the light image using "Darken" mode, only the highlight information is added from the modified dark image, shadows and midtones of the background light image remain unchanged.

Hope this helps clear things up.

Chuck
I couldn't reproduce the result using "darken" blending mode.
Simply the top layer(in darken mode) dominates and turning the
bottom layer on or off doesn't change anything.

There are other ways to blend multiple expsures
http://www.luminous-landscape.com/tutorials/blended_exposures.shtml

Or if you want to enhance shadows in a single dark exposure
http:///www.shadowilluminator.org
 
By Jove! I have just discovered this list of exposure blenders... It's too much! There must be much more interest in this than I thought.

Image Stacker : http://www.tawbaware.com/imgstack.htm
Optipix Blend Exposure :
http://www.reindeergraphics.com/optipix/guide/blend.shtml
HDR Shop :
http://athens.ict.usc.edu/HDRShop/
Reinhard HDR Tonemapping Plugin for HDR Shop:
http://www.gregdowning.com/HDRI/tonemap/Reinhard/
Photomatix: http://www.multimediaphoto.com/photomatix/index.html
Full Dynamic Range Exposer:
http://www.andreas-schoemann.de/fdrtools/fdrexposer/fdrexposer_e.php
Contrast Blending (with Photoshop): http://www.erik-krause.de/blending/
DRI: http://www.fredmiranda.com/DRI/index.html
Gradient Domain HDR Compression:
http://www.cs.huji.ac.il/~danix/hdr/
HDR Reduction via Maximization of Image Information:
http://www.cs.wright.edu/people/faculty/agoshtas/hdr.html
Anabuilder: http://anabuilder.free.fr
 
Where does one begin??

Are there actual reviews, preferably comparative ones, for any of these??

Man
By Jove! I have just discovered this list of exposure blenders...
It's too much! There must be much more interest in this than I
thought.

Image Stacker : http://www.tawbaware.com/imgstack.htm
Optipix Blend Exposure :
http://www.reindeergraphics.com/optipix/guide/blend.shtml
HDR Shop :
http://athens.ict.usc.edu/HDRShop/
Reinhard HDR Tonemapping Plugin for HDR Shop:
http://www.gregdowning.com/HDRI/tonemap/Reinhard/
Photomatix: http://www.multimediaphoto.com/photomatix/index.html
Full Dynamic Range Exposer:
http://www.andreas-schoemann.de/fdrtools/fdrexposer/fdrexposer_e.php
Contrast Blending (with Photoshop):
http://www.erik-krause.de/blending/
DRI: http://www.fredmiranda.com/DRI/index.html
Gradient Domain HDR Compression:
http://www.cs.huji.ac.il/~danix/hdr/
HDR Reduction via Maximization of Image Information:
http://www.cs.wright.edu/people/faculty/agoshtas/hdr.html
Anabuilder: http://anabuilder.free.fr
 

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