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Hi all,

I am about to pull the trigger on a 6D MKII. Prices have dropped like bricks since the EOS R was announced. I can get a 6D MKII for 989 sterling and as I pay in EUR it makes it very very cheap option to enter into FF.

Reading the specs of the EOS R particularly the camera's weight it's only 160gr lighter v the 6D MKII. The EF/RF lenses are bulky anyway so in terms of weight/size there is very little difference.

I cannot justify the price difference v spec/weight/size, over 1,000 Pounds. Would you?

I am sure the EOS R will evolve and perhaps in 3-4 years it will be a better option at least for me.
 
I jumped from M system to 6d2 6 weeks or so ago. Wish I would have waited to buy - i didn’t expect prices to drop so much.

I’d still have made same decision (or a 5dIV) - but will wait until mk 2 or 3 of the R.

Miss my M6 but couldn’t afford to keep it when buying the new setup.
 
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bmike said:
I jumped from M system to 6d2 6 weeks or so ago. Wish I would have waited to buy - i didn’t expect prices to drop so much.

I’d still have made same decision (or a 5dIV) - but will wait until mk 2 or 3 of the R.

Miss my M6 but couldn’t afford to keep it when buying the new setup.
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I ordered it , just now.. Hope I won't regret it :-)
 
Hi shooter,

I’m in the same ‘lucky’ position as you : need to decide 6d or R (or M).

I’m an interested amateur, mostly travel and familiy pics.

For me the R is out: 6dii is basically the same performance at half the cost (body only). Adding the R lenses brings the package to performance and price levels that go beyond my needs .. at no reduction in weight. I can clearly see the current R and R series are for the ‘pro’s’ and prosumers ... and it will take 1-2-3 years before a good ‘budget set’ would be available as part of R series. ( Budget set full frame 6dii + 24-105 F4 L is available for less than 2k Euro and with 3.5-5.6 version of this lens even 200-400 Euro less )

All this is not a problem for me at all : from what i read about the 6dii : that is a super camera which will be a very fine and solid step for me (back into) the world of FF. ( those pixel peepers that survived after discovering 6d has only 1 card slot will have a different view ..;-)

In 6 years my 6dii will be ( probably) out of date .. and I will check again if i go for R or M. ( as by that time dslr are probably no longer the goto camera )

my camera history:

10-12 years Canon EOS 10QD ( with 35-105 and later 35-135 lens ) .. EOS 33 ( 6-8 years or so ..;-)) .. after that went to dslr in 2011: Canon 1100d .. and moved to a 28-105 lens a few years later. A year ago I added the 24-105 L lens and the 10-18 mm. Now time to move to FF DSLR again !
 
Lost99999 said:
Hi shooter,

I’m in the same ‘lucky’ position as you : need to decide 6d or R (or M).

I’m an interested amateur, mostly travel and familiy pics.

For me the R is out: 6dii is basically the same performance at half the cost (body only). Adding the R lenses brings the package to performance and price levels that go beyond my needs .. at no reduction in weight. I can clearly see the current R and R series are for the ‘pro’s’ and prosumers ... and it will take 1-2-3 years before a good ‘budget set’ would be available as part of R series. ( Budget set full frame 6dii + 24-105 F4 L is available for less than 2k Euro and with 3.5-5.6 version of this lens even 200-400 Euro less )

All this is not a problem for me at all : from what i read about the 6dii : that is a super camera which will be a very fine and solid step for me (back into) the world of FF. ( those pixel peepers that survived after discovering 6d has only 1 card slot will have a different view ..;-)

In 6 years my 6dii will be ( probably) out of date .. and I will check again if i go for R or M. ( as by that time dslr are probably no longer the goto camera )

my camera history:

10-12 years Canon EOS 10QD ( with 35-105 and later 35-135 lens ) .. EOS 33 ( 6-8 years or so ..;-)) .. after that went to dslr in 2011: Canon 1100d .. and moved to a 28-105 lens a few years later. A year ago I added the 24-105 L lens and the 10-18 mm. Now time to move to FF DSLR again !
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You are perfectly right in your reasons. I could not justify paying EUR 2500 for the R when I got the 6D MKII for EUR 1130 ( Pounds 1009 incl shipping to Ireland).

I am sure the price of the R will come down in 12 months and Canon will launch improved models in 2-3 years time. The 6D MKII comes from a mature line of EOS bodies and despite the initial bashing it seems to be a nice camera for travel, landscapes, portraits. I will actual test it for sports and see how it performs.

Next purchase the 1Dx MKII but I will have to go to the US
 
Hi Sports Shooter,

I just bought the 6D II a couple months ago with a few L lenses and I am very happy with it. I read all the reviews, watched all the youtube reviews, and compared specs etc. etc. etc.

You are right, there are a lot of people bashing the 6D II, because Canon handicapped it. But the only thing that mattered most to me was FF, and the sensor. If you are just getting in to FF, this is your first Canon, I think the 6D II makes sense.

With that being said, I saw the sample images from the EOS R, with the new 50mm R lens, and it looks amazing. I already love my 50 1.2L but it looks like the new 50 R is better. The new R mount system is just better.

I do like optical viewfindersthough overelectronic viewfinders though, so although I love the R mount system, I want to be able to retain an optical viewfinder.
Sports Shooter said:
Hi all,

I am about to pull the trigger on a 6D MKII. Prices have dropped like bricks since the EOS R was announced. I can get a 6D MKII for 989 sterling and as I pay in EUR it makes it very very cheap option to enter into FF.

Reading the specs of the EOS R particularly the camera's weight it's only 160gr lighter v the 6D MKII. The EF/RF lenses are bulky anyway so in terms of weight/size there is very little difference.

I cannot justify the price difference v spec/weight/size, over 1,000 Pounds. Would you?

I am sure the EOS R will evolve and perhaps in 3-4 years it will be a better option at least for me.
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5div shooter here. In your position it's a matter of what the 6D format does for you over the shiny new R camera. I'm hoping to go semi-pro with city landscapes (mostly night-time) and can see that the new R might be quite good at that but I also shoot indoor sports for the missus and our sports clubs so my 5D earns its keep for both. A lot of the hype of the new body is around weight (plus some functionality to be fair) but I carry a tripod brick and some white lenses when I travel so, for me, the new camera is not a massive advantage. As a 2nd body though … hmm, might need to think about that.

What's excellent though about the new body is the backwards compatibility. Well done Canon!
 
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EOS R is only 3fps. Really not a sports photographer’s camera. The 6D II isn’t a lot better, but it’s better.

The 7D2... now THATS a sport photographer camera!
 
Watch the recent Youtube reviews of the EOS R and think about your photography. In short:

If you shoot scenes with a wide array of highlights and shadows and want to bring out the details in some areas, go with the EOS R since it uses a similar sensor to the 5D4 with decent Dynamic Range.

If you want to do sports shooting in good lighting, or low light shooting with image stabilization, then the EOS R really doesnt add much value to the mixture.

If you want to use an external mic, well, you should be able to figure that one out yourself.
 
I too lost any interest I may have had when I saw the low FPS rate. And with the new Digic 8 processor too.
 
GriffinClubMerv said:
I too lost any interest I may have had when I saw the low FPS rate. And with the new Digic 8 processor too.
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FPS is a huge shortfall with the EOS R. But the problem isnt the processor per se, it is that only one processor was put in the system. The next future step-up "R" camera will likely have dual Digic 8 processors.

Improving the sensor, the back LCD, and adding an EVF, isnt going to help your FPS with a mildly improved single processor.

So yeah, if FPS is more important to your shooting style than IQ, the 6D2 is the clear winner. You cant have your cake and eat it too.

But then, if IQ is not important, you should think about why you are even shooting FF cameras. APS-C cameras should have better FPS and AF coverage than a 6D2.

The only advantage I see is more light landing on the frame allowing faster shutter speeds and a little better AF speed.
 
Lawn Lends said:
GriffinClubMerv said:
I too lost any interest I may have had when I saw the low FPS rate. And with the new Digic 8 processor too.
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FPS is a huge shortfall with the EOS R.
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Its not a “huge shortfall.” Many photographers only shoot single shots. Doing high fps well adds a lot of cost to the camera, and Canon has long segmented on this basis.

It may not be any good for you, but it doesn’t make it a bad camera.
 
MarshallG said:
EOS R is only 3fps. Really not a sports photographer’s camera. The 6D II isn’t a lot better, but it’s better.

The 7D2... now THATS a sport photographer camera!
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I have the 1D MKIV and MKIII for sports and I bought the 6D MKII for travel, portraits, landscapes etc. But I'll have a go at a rugby/soccer match and see how it performs. Not an important one though..
 
Lawn Lends said:
GriffinClubMerv said:
I too lost any interest I may have had when I saw the low FPS rate. And with the new Digic 8 processor too.
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FPS is a huge shortfall with the EOS R. But the problem isnt the processor per se, it is that only one processor was put in the system. The next future step-up "R" camera will likely have dual Digic 8 processors.

Improving the sensor, the back LCD, and adding an EVF, isnt going to help your FPS with a mildly improved single processor.

So yeah, if FPS is more important to your shooting style than IQ, the 6D2 is the clear winner. You cant have your cake and eat it too.

But then, if IQ is not important, you should think about why you are even shooting FF cameras. APS-C cameras should have better FPS and AF coverage than a 6D2.

The only advantage I see is more light landing on the frame allowing faster shutter speeds and a little better AF speed.
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I have both the 7DMkII and the 6DMkII (Wife's) having gone through several models since the 40D and Olympus prior to that. The old 6D Vs My 7's wasn't in the hunt. But the 6DMkII has really earnt respect from me. Not only is it's AF much closer to the 7DMkII's, if we are both shooting things (Eg. whale watching from a moving boat) I might nail a few more frames, but inevitably the IQ of the 6DMkII's shots is a clear winner over my 7DMkII. I'm not giving up my 7DMkII just yet, but on my last trip I commented to my wife if one was stolen on us, her's would hurt me more. I really have grown to love and respect it.
 
The Aussie Viking said:
Lawn Lends said:
GriffinClubMerv said:
I too lost any interest I may have had when I saw the low FPS rate. And with the new Digic 8 processor too.
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FPS is a huge shortfall with the EOS R. But the problem isnt the processor per se, it is that only one processor was put in the system. The next future step-up "R" camera will likely have dual Digic 8 processors.

Improving the sensor, the back LCD, and adding an EVF, isnt going to help your FPS with a mildly improved single processor.

So yeah, if FPS is more important to your shooting style than IQ, the 6D2 is the clear winner. You cant have your cake and eat it too.

But then, if IQ is not important, you should think about why you are even shooting FF cameras. APS-C cameras should have better FPS and AF coverage than a 6D2.

The only advantage I see is more light landing on the frame allowing faster shutter speeds and a little better AF speed.
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I have both the 7DMkII and the 6DMkII (Wife's) having gone through several models since the 40D and Olympus prior to that. The old 6D Vs My 7's wasn't in the hunt. But the 6DMkII has really earnt respect from me. Not only is it's AF much closer to the 7DMkII's, if we are both shooting things (Eg. whale watching from a moving boat) I might nail a few more frames, but inevitably the IQ of the 6DMkII's shots is a clear winner over my 7DMkII. I'm not giving up my 7DMkII just yet, but on my last trip I commented to my wife if one was stolen on us, her's would hurt me more. I really have grown to love and respect it.
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I can't wait to get my hands on the camera.. Problem is that the user manual is 600+ pages :-( ... lot's to read.

I am now the proud owner of all Canon sensors APS-C/APS-H/FF :-)
 
Sports Shooter said:
I can't wait to get my hands on the camera.. Problem is that the user manual is 600+ pages :-( ... lot's to read.
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Download the manual to your phone in pdf format, so that you can always refer to it.
 
Sports Shooter said:
Hi all,

I am about to pull the trigger on a 6D MKII. Prices have dropped like bricks since the EOS R was announced. I can get a 6D MKII for 989 sterling and as I pay in EUR it makes it very very cheap option to enter into FF.

Reading the specs of the EOS R particularly the camera's weight it's only 160gr lighter v the 6D MKII. The EF/RF lenses are bulky anyway so in terms of weight/size there is very little difference.

I cannot justify the price difference v spec/weight/size, over 1,000 Pounds. Would you?

I am sure the EOS R will evolve and perhaps in 3-4 years it will be a better option at least for me.
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If you are considering it I'd be inclined to wait until you can play with both in a shop (next month) and see if one feels particularly better than the other to you.
 
Sports Shooter said:
MarshallG said:
EOS R is only 3fps. Really not a sports photographer’s camera. The 6D II isn’t a lot better, but it’s better.

The 7D2... now THATS a sport photographer camera!
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I have the 1D MKIV and MKIII for sports and I bought the 6D MKII for travel, portraits, landscapes etc. But I'll have a go at a rugby/soccer match and see how it performs. Not an important one though..
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Same as me. 1dIV for wildlife and recently bought a 6DII to complement it for better use of wide angle lenses, low light, landscapes etc.

I have been very pleasantly surprised by how well it can keep up in every aspect. While I knew the FF mirrorless was coming, in hindsight the extra bit of DR is certainly not worth the price difference and I have no regrets about not waiting.
 
Dr_Jon said:
Sports Shooter said:
Hi all,

I am about to pull the trigger on a 6D MKII. Prices have dropped like bricks since the EOS R was announced. I can get a 6D MKII for 989 sterling and as I pay in EUR it makes it very very cheap option to enter into FF.

Reading the specs of the EOS R particularly the camera's weight it's only 160gr lighter v the 6D MKII. The EF/RF lenses are bulky anyway so in terms of weight/size there is very little difference.

I cannot justify the price difference v spec/weight/size, over 1,000 Pounds. Would you?

I am sure the EOS R will evolve and perhaps in 3-4 years it will be a better option at least for me.
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If you are considering it I'd be inclined to wait until you can play with both in a shop (next month) and see if one feels particularly better than the other to you.
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You know , for the price difference and the IQ when printing up to A3+ the handling wouldn’t bother me too much . Add a 70-200/2.8 MKII and size / weight /handling becomes irrelevant

i am used to carry a 400/2.8 and 1d bodies around the pitch. I think that the 6d mkii is excellent value for money now if like me u have lots of Canon lenses .

I am keen to take the 85/1.8 and 40/2.8 out and take a few portraits

i ordered the camera yesterday
 
Sports Shooter said:
Hi all,

I am about to pull the trigger on a 6D MKII. Prices have dropped like bricks since the EOS R was announced. I can get a 6D MKII for 989 sterling and as I pay in EUR it makes it very very cheap option to enter into FF.

Reading the specs of the EOS R particularly the camera's weight it's only 160gr lighter v the 6D MKII. The EF/RF lenses are bulky anyway so in terms of weight/size there is very little difference.

I cannot justify the price difference v spec/weight/size, over 1,000 Pounds. Would you?

I am sure the EOS R will evolve and perhaps in 3-4 years it will be a better option at least for me.
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