Honestly you seem to swing one way and then the other with different cameras/brands. So much so that I can't take anything you say seriously about any of them. And really if Nikon is causing you such grief just get over it, walk away, use another brand. Then likely you'll be happier and Nikon won't fail without you. You can be critical of the best camera in the world (D850) all you like but its not going to change anything.
Not swinging one way than the other and I have a D4 with XH1 and shooting happily with it so far. I need two more bodies and that's why I went to take a look at the D850 so I said what I think about it so I'm not asking you to take any of this "seriously" this is just my personal opinion and that's all it is.
I'm not walking away from anything I just don't feel the D850 is worth over $3K and no I don't like the way Nikon sees their customers. I have felt that way for many years and they still don't change.
You still haven't told us what you think Fuji's design philosophy is or what Nikon's design philosophy is?
Personally - I have both Fuji and Nikon and I don't like how Fuji is trying to move their prices up - I personally feel that the X-H1 is not worth $1899 USD.
Okay you sure got me there partner when it comes to Fuji's pricing on APS-C
Originally I was mainly talking about the physical camera designs between these two particular camera manufacturers, more specifically certain aspects of the D850 and XH1.
Huh? You can get a brand new X-H1 for $1649 USD on Amazon, Adorama, and B&H Photo.
Maybe Canadianguy is rounding it up, the price for the XH1 with a SD card plus tax is about $1899
Having said that, I personally try not to ever pay for full price and I look for sales, like no sales tax and free shipping. That makes a difference. But yeah the X-H1 for being APS-C ain't cheap these days. FF is coming out in full force from more camera manufacturers and if Fuji doesn't lower their prices a bit then something is definitely wrong. Just my opinion
Sorry – I haven’t been keeping up with the sales on the X-H1 – I was just looking at the launch price. 6 months after release and a $250 price drop – pretty hard for any APS-C camera to sustain a $1899 price point in today’s market.
I own a D850 and tried the X-H1 for a few minutes so cannot really say much about the Fuji X-H1 specifically but do own the X-T2 so I will speak generically about the Nikon Vs Fuji design philosophies.
Nikon DSLRs has 3 main body designs: 1) Consumer with the PASM dial; 2) Semi-pro with the 3-4 king dial ; 3) Pro with the fully gripped design – cameras within the 3 main types are pretty much the same in terms of button layouts – there are minor changes but not a big deal.
Nikon has about 3-4 sensor designs in their current lineup – 20 MP (speed) / 24 MP (Generalists) / 46 MP (Hi-res) in 36x24 sensors and 24 MP and 20 MP in the APS-C line.
Fujifilm has 5/6 body designs – I cannot keep count, every model has a different body design – they have the rangefinder like designs with the offset viewfinder, the DSLR like designs with the viewfinder in the middle, the vlogger design with the selfie screen, body designs for everything under the sun.
Fujifilm uses only 2 sensor for all their designs – 24 MP in ASP-C and a 50MP in the 44x33mm size – they seem to like the cropped sensors
Of course by reusing the same sensors – they get to keep their sensor purchase volumes up and can invest in developing firmware for the sensor and processor line.
But they really have to release their products from highest priced to lowest price in that order when they move to a new sensor / processor line. I am surprised they aren’t releasing a X-H2 before they push out the X-T3 with the next generation sensor.