70-300mm AF-P focusing speed

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I currently have the 70-200mm f2.8 II, but I am not using it at f2.8 much at all. To save some weight and get a little more reach, I am contemplating replacing it with the new 70-300 af-p FX for use on my D810. My quesion us how does the focusing speed compare? I have read that the new 70-300mm has top notch optics but have not read much regarding its AF performance.
 
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I currently have the 70-200mm f2.8 II, but I am not using it at f2.8 much at all. To save some weight and get a little more reach, I am contemplating replacing it with the new 70-300 af-p FX for use on my D810. My quesion us how does the focusing speed compare? I have read that the new 70-300mm has top notch optics but have not read much regarding its AF performance.
Based upon personal experience with both lenses, please stay with the pro 70-200 f2.8 VR II. It is a far superior lens than is the consumer grade 70-300 af-p fx. No contest. It is like comparing a pro to an amateur. And you may have need for the faster lens in the future.
 
I currently have the 70-200mm f2.8 II, but I am not using it at f2.8 much at all. To save some weight and get a little more reach, I am contemplating replacing it with the new 70-300 af-p FX for use on my D810. My quesion us how does the focusing speed compare? I have read that the new 70-300mm has top notch optics but have not read much regarding its AF performance.
Based upon personal experience with both lenses, please stay with the pro 70-200 f2.8 VR II. It is a far superior lens than is the consumer grade 70-300 af-p fx. No contest. It is like comparing a pro to an amateur. And you may have need for the faster lens in the future.
Are you speaking only to focus speed which is what the OP asked about?

Cali92rs What do you foresee as being the most challenging AF speed wise subject that you will be photographing?
 
Based upon personal experience with both lenses, please stay with the pro 70-200 f2.8 VR II. It is a far superior lens than is the consumer grade 70-300 af-p fx. No contest. It is like comparing a pro to an amateur. And you may have need for the faster lens in the future.
How is it 'far' superior? Weight? Reach?
 
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Based upon personal experience with both lenses, please stay with the pro 70-200 f2.8 VR II. It is a far superior lens than is the consumer grade 70-300 af-p fx. No contest. It is like comparing a pro to an amateur. And you may have need for the faster lens in the future.
How is it 'far' superior? Weight? Reach?
Quality. The 70-200 is very well made. It feels solid. It is durable. It focuses fast and accurately. Its resolution, contrast and color is excellent. If you are most interested in weight and reach, purchase a wrestler.
 
Based upon personal experience with both lenses, please stay with the pro 70-200 f2.8 VR II. It is a far superior lens than is the consumer grade 70-300 af-p fx. No contest. It is like comparing a pro to an amateur. And you may have need for the faster lens in the future.
Sorry, but you're clearly trying to substitute wallet size with photo knowledge. It isn't working.
How is it 'far' superior? Weight? Reach?
Quality. The 70-200 is very well made. It feels solid. It is durable. It focuses fast and accurately. Its resolution, contrast and color is excellent. If you are most interested in weight and reach, purchase a wrestler.
"It feels solid." Just stop with this kind of garbage. It is completely subjective and more to it, entirely misses the point and is an inhibitor to the actual conversation.

Of course the 70-200 is better, both physically and optically. That's why it is the size and price that it is. But that misses the entire point! He isn't asking "how do I get the best possible IQ?" He's asking, "How does this lens' focus compared to the other lens? Because I wouldn't mind if I could get away using something smaller, lighter, and with a little more focal length flexibility."

And this is how I know you don't have any experience with the AF-P, because it focuses so fast it is outright bewildering.

To the OP: It actually focuses so fast that it is a problem, because sometimes it will skip right over something you want it to hit on and instead lock onto something else (in front or behind), where as with the AF-S system you can get it to pause/catch.

There's the additional issue of that it is focus-by-wire. Very well done, but, it doesn't engage instantly, so touching up focus by hand is trickier--you have to turn it enough to engage it, but then slow down your rate of turning as it will rapidly turn right past your target point. (The throw on it is rather short.)

But as far as speed, it is incredibly quick. If you're thinking "consumer zoom = 2nd tier AF-S (or even back to the screwdriver)," this lens is most certainly not that. Optically it is incredible for it's size, weight, and cost. One of nikon's better consumer zooms. But it is also a slightly different experience to use. Don't be afraid to rent one first.
 
Based upon personal experience with both lenses, please stay with the pro 70-200 f2.8 VR II. It is a far superior lens than is the consumer grade 70-300 af-p fx. No contest. It is like comparing a pro to an amateur. And you may have need for the faster lens in the future.
Sorry, but you're clearly trying to substitute wallet size with photo knowledge. It isn't working.
How is it 'far' superior? Weight? Reach?
Quality. The 70-200 is very well made. It feels solid. It is durable. It focuses fast and accurately. Its resolution, contrast and color is excellent. If you are most interested in weight and reach, purchase a wrestler.
"It feels solid." Just stop with this kind of garbage. It is completely subjective and more to it, entirely misses the point and is an inhibitor to the actual conversation.

Of course the 70-200 is better, both physically and optically. That's why it is the size and price that it is. But that misses the entire point! He isn't asking "how do I get the best possible IQ?" He's asking, "How does this lens' focus compared to the other lens? Because I wouldn't mind if I could get away using something smaller, lighter, and with a little more focal length flexibility."

And this is how I know you don't have any experience with the AF-P, because it focuses so fast it is outright bewildering.

To the OP: It actually focuses so fast that it is a problem, because sometimes it will skip right over something you want it to hit on and instead lock onto something else (in front or behind), where as with the AF-S system you can get it to pause/catch.

There's the additional issue of that it is focus-by-wire. Very well done, but, it doesn't engage instantly, so touching up focus by hand is trickier--you have to turn it enough to engage it, but then slow down your rate of turning as it will rapidly turn right past your target point. (The throw on it is rather short.)

But as far as speed, it is incredibly quick. If you're thinking "consumer zoom = 2nd tier AF-S (or even back to the screwdriver)," this lens is most certainly not that. Optically it is incredible for it's size, weight, and cost. One of nikon's better consumer zooms. But it is also a slightly different experience to use. Don't be afraid to rent one first.
Thanks for the thorough response :)

I am interested in a jack of all trades zoom which is more "travel friendly " than the 70-200mm. Sometimes I shoot airshows, sometimes birds in flight, sometimes my son playing t-ball.

I used to shoot weddings and engagement shots...so the 70-200mm is more appropriate for that, for sure. But i just wanted something that could keep up with some flying birds....both natural and mechanical ;)
 
Practically instantaneous, which is the hallmark of the AF-P series. I have the DX model, so the FX model should be the same.
 
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Practically instantaneous, which is the hallmark of the AF-P series. I have the DX model, so the FX model should be the same.
I tried AF-P FX lens and it's very fast and silent. I didn't like the fact the lens doesn't have the little window that shows the focusing distance. This means you have no way to see where it's focused at the moment unless you look through viewfinder. Otherwise it's very sharp too. I do have 70-200/2.8E. This lens is definitely faster. Actually one of the fastest lens I have ever used.
 
Based upon personal experience with both lenses, please stay with the pro 70-200 f2.8 VR II. It is a far superior lens than is the consumer grade 70-300 af-p fx. No contest. It is like comparing a pro to an amateur. And you may have need for the faster lens in the future.
Sorry, but you're clearly trying to substitute wallet size with photo knowledge. It isn't working.
How is it 'far' superior? Weight? Reach?
Quality. The 70-200 is very well made. It feels solid. It is durable. It focuses fast and accurately. Its resolution, contrast and color is excellent. If you are most interested in weight and reach, purchase a wrestler.
"It feels solid." Just stop with this kind of garbage. It is completely subjective and more to it, entirely misses the point and is an inhibitor to the actual conversation.

Of course the 70-200 is better, both physically and optically. That's why it is the size and price that it is. But that misses the entire point! He isn't asking "how do I get the best possible IQ?" He's asking, "How does this lens' focus compared to the other lens? Because I wouldn't mind if I could get away using something smaller, lighter, and with a little more focal length flexibility."

And this is how I know you don't have any experience with the AF-P, because it focuses so fast it is outright bewildering.

To the OP: It actually focuses so fast that it is a problem, because sometimes it will skip right over something you want it to hit on and instead lock onto something else (in front or behind), where as with the AF-S system you can get it to pause/catch.

There's the additional issue of that it is focus-by-wire. Very well done, but, it doesn't engage instantly, so touching up focus by hand is trickier--you have to turn it enough to engage it, but then slow down your rate of turning as it will rapidly turn right past your target point. (The throw on it is rather short.)

But as far as speed, it is incredibly quick. If you're thinking "consumer zoom = 2nd tier AF-S (or even back to the screwdriver)," this lens is most certainly not that. Optically it is incredible for it's size, weight, and cost. One of nikon's better consumer zooms. But it is also a slightly different experience to use. Don't be afraid to rent one first.
I am actually not going to respond to your points. However, I will say that I did purchase and return the 70-300 af-p fx lens. Out of all of the lenses I have purchased, this one was one of the most disappointing and poorest performing out of the box. It was used promptly and extensively on my Nikon D810. Quickly, it was determined that it was not as sharp as my previous 70-300 version. Quick focusing is one thing, accurate focus is another. Now I may have just received a bad copy -- which tends to occur more often with these consumer level lenses (and it is, indeed, a consumer level lens). Nor did I attempt AF fine tuning as I felt that the sharpness issue was so poor that AF fine tuning would probably not fully resolve the problem. So as a general response to you, I would simply say that based upon my personal experience with this lens I would give it a "not recommended." You and anyone else are certainly entitled to your own opinions and to purchase whatever you want. I am just telling you what I experienced. Do want you want with this information -- or do nothing at all.
 
I am actually not going to respond to your points. However, I will say that I did purchase and return the 70-300 af-p fx lens. Out of all of the lenses I have purchased, this one was one of the most disappointing and poorest performing out of the box. It was used promptly and extensively on my Nikon D810. Quickly, it was determined that it was not as sharp as my previous 70-300 version. Quick focusing is one thing, accurate focus is another. Now I may have just received a bad copy -- which tends to occur more often with these consumer level lenses (and it is, indeed, a consumer level lens). Nor did I attempt AF fine tuning as I felt that the sharpness issue was so poor that AF fine tuning would probably not fully resolve the problem. So as a general response to you, I would simply say that based upon my personal experience with this lens I would give it a "not recommended." You and anyone else are certainly entitled to your own opinions and to purchase whatever you want. I am just telling you what I experienced. Do want you want with this information -- or do nothing at all.
Perhaps you got a bad copy? I would have to say then that my copy performs extremely well on my lowly consumer grade D5600 without any fine tuning. This picture is cropped, and taken wide open at f6.3 at 300mm





This one was taken while swinging in a lift chair and I couldn't keep the camera steady. I didn't think this one would come out, but it did.





Not too bad for a lowly consumer level lens and lowly consumer level camera. It suits my purposes just fine.
 
I currently have the 70-200mm f2.8 II, but I am not using it at f2.8 much at all. To save some weight and get a little more reach, I am contemplating replacing it with the new 70-300 af-p FX for use on my D810. My quesion us how does the focusing speed compare? I have read that the new 70-300mm has top notch optics but have not read much regarding its AF performance.
I'm not sure how it compares to the the f/2.8, but I can say the AF-P focuses very fast and quietly. I used the lens a little on a D7200, and it was pretty good. Now I've trying it on the D850, and I gotta say, it's very impressive. For $600, this thing rocks. It's a fairly lightweight combo, and although it's only 300mm, I can crop deep with the D850. Really nice lens, IMO. Probably not as good as "pro" lenses, but considering the price, it's phenomenal...and I can be very picky.

Here is a recent example from this afternoon at the zoo.



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I have the DX AF-P 70-300mm and it is the quickest focusing FX or DX lens I have used and is noticeably sharper at 300mm than the old FX 70-300G lens. The FX AF-P 70-300mm has a larger aperture and is reportedly even sharper than the DX version.

I have done a sharpness torture test of the DX AF-P 70-300mm by mounting it on the mirrorless Nikon V2 camera using the FT-1 adapter and shooting at the longest FL of 300mm hand held. Keep in mind that the V2 has a 1” 14MP sensor so equivalent FF FL would be 810mm and the pixel density would equate to over 100MP on a FF sensor. Needless to say these parameters are very demanding of the resolving power of any lens!

Below are the same shot of a Jay with the first slightly cropped and the second is a further crop of the same image so you can see the feathe detail. I suggest you go to my gallery and inspect the “original” image so you can judge for yourself the resoving power of this lens is at 300mm on a 1” 14MP sensor. IMO, it’s pretty darn good considering everything. BTW, I tried this with the old FX 70-300 G and the result at 300mm was mushy with virtually no feather detail.


AFP DX 70-300mm shot hand held at 300mm ((810mm FF equivalency FOV) with Nikon V2

Note, focusing was fast and accurate!


Further crop of same image above

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Best regards,
Jon
 
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