Nikon's Menus Suck!

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Lifelong Canon user. Switched to the Nikon D750 for the high dynamic range sensor. Why are the menus in this camera so arcane? Things I can't figure out:
  1. How to get a histogram displayed during image playback?
  2. Where the hell is the flash compensation adjustment buried?
  3. I figured focus point selection out - but it takes like three buttons and standing on your head. Any way to make this easy like on Canons?
So far Google and the 500+ page manual haven't helped.

Almost wished I would have just went with the new Canon 6D. Sensor not as good, but at least I could operate the camera.
 
Lifelong Canon user. Switched to the Nikon D750 for the high dynamic range sensor. Why are the menus in this camera so arcane? Things I can't figure out:
  1. How to get a histogram displayed during image playback?
  2. Where the hell is the flash compensation adjustment buried?
  3. I figured focus point selection out - but it takes like three buttons and standing on your head. Any way to make this easy like on Canons?
So far Google and the 500+ page manual haven't helped.

Almost wished I would have just went with the new Canon 6D. Sensor not as good, but at least I could operate the camera.
 
Lifelong Canon user. Switched to the Nikon D750 for the high dynamic range sensor. Why are the menus in this camera so arcane? Things I can't figure out:
Well, I find Canon's menu's unusable.
  1. How to get a histogram displayed during image playback?
Simple. Go to "Playback Menu", then to "Playback Options" then "additional photo info" and tick "RGB Histogram"
2. Where the hell is the flash compensation adjustment buried?
There are a number of ways to set it all up. Go to the "Pencil icon menu" and then down to "Bracketing/flash" there are options there to look at. As for flash compensation, it is on the flash itself for an external flash or on the flash compensation button which is near the on camera pop up flash itself.
I figured focus point selection out - but it takes like three buttons and standing on your head. Any way to make this easy like on Canons?
What? You just use the big thumb wheel on the back.
So far Google and the 500+ page manual haven't helped.

Almost wished I would have just went with the new Canon 6D. Sensor not as good, but at least I could operate the camera.
 
Lifelong Canon user. Switched to the Nikon D750 for the high dynamic range sensor. Why are the menus in this camera so arcane? Things I can't figure out:
  1. How to get a histogram displayed during image playback?
  2. Where the hell is the flash compensation adjustment buried?
  3. I figured focus point selection out - but it takes like three buttons and standing on your head. Any way to make this easy like on Canons?
So far Google and the 500+ page manual haven't helped.

Almost wished I would have just went with the new Canon 6D. Sensor not as good, but at least I could operate the camera.
It's really not that hard. You're just not used to it.

#1. For a histogram during playback, just press the up / down button a few times on the D-Pad until you see a histogram. Up for overall, down a few times for the RGB.

#2. Flash compensation would be the button with the "flash" symbol, which is found to the left of the flash. :) Rotate the front command dial while holding that flash button to change the compensation.

#3. Huh? To select AF area or mode, hold the AF button while rotating the front or rear command dial, depending on what you want to do.

To select an AF point, just push the appropriate arrows on the DPad--you don't have to hold a button or anything. By default, the rear DPad changes AF point.

(Front dial): Nikon AF-C = Canon Servo.

(Rear dial): AF areas. Just read up on these. There's area modes, 3d tracking, etc.

These are just plain different than Canons.

In general, this is Nikon's style. Hold the button for what you want to do, and rotate the front/rear dials while holding. You can make it more Canon-like where you don't hold them but rather toggle them--should be somewhere in the "Controls" menu--but thats about it.

Everything else like AF modes are just different & you'll just need to get used to it. It's really not that difficult. :)
 
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Lance and beatboxa your replies were helpful. I stumbled on to the D-pad toggling to get to the histogram. On my Canon 5D classic you simply press "info" during playback.

No way in a million years would I have thought that the flash exposure compensation adjustment be associated with a the simple button that flips up the on-board flash - but hey, mystery solved.

Regarding autofocus, Canon makes it so much easier. Only have to spin one dial, not hold a button and spin a dial simultaneously.

Next question: in program mode, why does auto iso get canceled when the flash is turned on? On the Canon, you simply set the iso. On Nikon, it's like playing the lottery. Never know what ISO number you're going to get.
 
Lance and beatboxa your replies were helpful. I stumbled on to the D-pad toggling to get to the histogram. On my Canon 5D classic you simply press "info" during playback.

No way in a million years would I have thought that the flash exposure compensation adjustment be associated with a the simple button that flips up the on-board flash - but hey, mystery solved.

Regarding autofocus, Canon makes it so much easier. Only have to spin one dial, not hold a button and spin a dial simultaneously.

Next question: in program mode, why does auto iso get canceled when the flash is turned on? On the Canon, you simply set the iso. On Nikon, it's like playing the lottery. Never know what ISO number you're going to get.
I've used a 5DIII quite a bit--and they're just different. I personally prefer Nikon's method, but to each their own.

In program mode, Auto ISO doesn't get cancelled--Nikon does live ISO and selects ISO when you actually take the picture. You're using "Program Auto" in "P" mode, so a relatively unpredictable number is kind of what you're asking for. :)

Here's the general default interface for Nikon. These can largely be customized, but here's a cheatsheet for you:

No button pushed:
  • Front Dial: Aperture
  • Rear Dial: Shutter speed
  • DPad: AF point selection
  • (no thumb rotatey-thingy)
Autofocus button:
  • Front Dial: AF Area (single point, group, 3d tracking, etc.)
  • Rear Dial: AF mode (Auto, AF-S (single-shot), AF-C (continuous/"servo"))
Flash button:
  • Front Dial: Compensation amount
  • Rear Dial: Flash mode (front, rear, etc.)
BKT button:
  • Front Dial: Exposure between shots
  • Rear Dial: Number of shots
  • (Also, you can do time-lapses from the menu)
ISO button (or movie record button if you re-assign it):
  • Front Dial: Toggle Auto ISO on/off
  • Rear Dial: Select ISO
White balance:
  • Front Dial: Fine tune
  • Rear Dial: WB Preset
QUAL: changes raw / jpeg / quality. But just don't use this. In fact, I reassigned my movie record button to ISO just to avoid accidentally pushing this stupid, pointless button.

Metering button:
  • Rear Dial: Metering Area
EC button:
  • Rear Dial: EC amount
You can reassign your AE-L / AF-L button to "AF-On" for back-button focusing.

I believe you should be able to see all of the above on the rear screen when you start holding the button. It should clearly guide you through which dial does what.

Make sure your controls aren't "locked" by being in the "L" position.

That should be the major ones. There are also a few additional buttons you can reassign, like the front Pv & Fn buttons. But hopefully that helps.

Read the manual.
 
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Lance and beatboxa your replies were helpful. I stumbled on to the D-pad toggling to get to the histogram. On my Canon 5D classic you simply press "info" during playback.

No way in a million years would I have thought that the flash exposure compensation adjustment be associated with a the simple button that flips up the on-board flash - but hey, mystery solved.

Regarding autofocus, Canon makes it so much easier. Only have to spin one dial, not hold a button and spin a dial simultaneously.

Next question: in program mode, why does auto iso get canceled when the flash is turned on? On the Canon, you simply set the iso. On Nikon, it's like playing the lottery. Never know what ISO number you're going to get.
I've used a 5DIII quite a bit--and they're just different. I personally prefer Nikon's method, but to each their own.

In program mode, Auto ISO doesn't get cancelled--Nikon does live ISO and selects ISO when you actually take the picture. You're using "Program Auto" in "P" mode, so a relatively unpredictable number is kind of what you're asking for. :)

Here's the general default interface for Nikon. These can largely be customized, but here's a cheatsheet for you:

No button pushed:
  • Front Dial: Aperture
  • Rear Dial: Shutter speed
  • DPad: AF point selection
  • (no thumb rotatey-thingy)
Autofocus button:
  • Front Dial: AF Area (single point, group, 3d tracking, etc.)
  • Rear Dial: AF mode (Auto, AF-S (single-shot), AF-C (continuous/"servo"))
Flash button:
  • Front Dial: Compensation amount
  • Rear Dial: Flash mode (front, rear, etc.)
BKT button:
  • Front Dial: Exposure between shots
  • Rear Dial: Number of shots
  • (Also, you can do time-lapses from the menu)
ISO button (or movie record button if you re-assign it):
  • Front Dial: Toggle Auto ISO on/off
  • Rear Dial: Select ISO
White balance:
  • Front Dial: Fine tune
  • Rear Dial: WB Preset
QUAL: changes raw / jpeg / quality. But just don't use this. In fact, I reassigned my movie record button to ISO just to avoid accidentally pushing this stupid, pointless button.

Metering button:
  • Rear Dial: Metering Area
EC button:
  • Rear Dial: EC amount
You can reassign your AE-L / AF-L button to "AF-On" for back-button focusing.

I believe you should be able to see all of the above on the rear screen when you start holding the button. It should clearly guide you through which dial does what.

Make sure your controls aren't "locked" by being in the "L" position.

That should be the major ones. There are also a few additional buttons you can reassign, like the front Pv & Fn buttons. But hopefully that helps.

Read the manual.
Very helpful. Thanks for taking the time on this.
 
Lifelong Canon user. Switched to the Nikon D750 for the high dynamic range sensor. Why are the menus in this camera so arcane? Things I can't figure out:
  1. How to get a histogram displayed during image playback?
  2. Where the hell is the flash compensation adjustment buried?
  3. I figured focus point selection out - but it takes like three buttons and standing on your head. Any way to make this easy like on Canons?
So far Google and the 500+ page manual haven't helped.

Almost wished I would have just went with the new Canon 6D. Sensor not as good, but at least I could operate the camera.
LOL.

Well. I actually like how Nikon does things.

I had a Canon 10D, Nikon D70s and Pentax K100d all at the same time a long time ago.

At the time, I liked the output of my Pentax, but liked the UI of the Nikon.

As with most cameras now-a-days . . . they can do so much and have so many settings that, yes, its going to take time to figure out where everything is. LOL.

But one of the nice things about the Nikon is the "My Menu" feature.

When you determine the short(er) list of features you want to have constant / quick access to, put them on your "My Menu". If you can't get to that feature with a click or a twist of an external control, at least it will only be a few clicks away in your "My Menu!"

Take care & Happy Shooting!
:)
 
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The manual is quite large. An easier way to use it if you haven't already done so is to download it and use it on your computer. Much easier to use and you can just click on the index entries to go to them. You can also take it round with you on your phone/tablet.

--
Always try google before you start a thread. Most likely you'll find your answer straight away.
 
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Lifelong Canon user. Switched to the Nikon D750 for the high dynamic range sensor. Why are the menus in this camera so arcane? Things I can't figure out:
  1. How to get a histogram displayed during image playback?
  2. Where the hell is the flash compensation adjustment buried?
  3. I figured focus point selection out - but it takes like three buttons and standing on your head. Any way to make this easy like on Canons?
So far Google and the 500+ page manual haven't helped.

Almost wished I would have just went with the new Canon 6D. Sensor not as good, but at least I could operate the camera.
 
Lifelong Canon user. Switched to the Nikon D750 for the high dynamic range sensor. Why are the menus in this camera so arcane? Things I can't figure out:
  1. How to get a histogram displayed during image playback?
  2. Where the hell is the flash compensation adjustment buried?
  3. I figured focus point selection out - but it takes like three buttons and standing on your head. Any way to make this easy like on Canons?
So far Google and the 500+ page manual haven't helped.

Almost wished I would have just went with the new Canon 6D. Sensor not as good, but at least I could operate the camera.
 
The menus frustrate all of us from time to time. It gets better with use and familiarity. Believe me.
 
Lance and beatboxa your replies were helpful. I stumbled on to the D-pad toggling to get to the histogram. On my Canon 5D classic you simply press "info" during playback.

No way in a million years would I have thought that the flash exposure compensation adjustment be associated with a the simple button that flips up the on-board flash - but hey, mystery solved.

Regarding autofocus, Canon makes it so much easier. Only have to spin one dial, not hold a button and spin a dial simultaneously.

Next question: in program mode, why does auto iso get canceled when the flash is turned on? On the Canon, you simply set the iso. On Nikon, it's like playing the lottery. Never know what ISO number you're going to get.
I've used a 5DIII quite a bit--and they're just different. I personally prefer Nikon's method, but to each their own.

In program mode, Auto ISO doesn't get cancelled--Nikon does live ISO and selects ISO when you actually take the picture. You're using "Program Auto" in "P" mode, so a relatively unpredictable number is kind of what you're asking for. :)

Here's the general default interface for Nikon. These can largely be customized, but here's a cheatsheet for you:

No button pushed:
  • Front Dial: Aperture
  • Rear Dial: Shutter speed
  • DPad: AF point selection
  • (no thumb rotatey-thingy)
Autofocus button:
  • Front Dial: AF Area (single point, group, 3d tracking, etc.)
  • Rear Dial: AF mode (Auto, AF-S (single-shot), AF-C (continuous/"servo"))
Flash button:
  • Front Dial: Compensation amount
  • Rear Dial: Flash mode (front, rear, etc.)
BKT button:
  • Front Dial: Exposure between shots
  • Rear Dial: Number of shots
  • (Also, you can do time-lapses from the menu)
ISO button (or movie record button if you re-assign it):
  • Front Dial: Toggle Auto ISO on/off
  • Rear Dial: Select ISO
White balance:
  • Front Dial: Fine tune
  • Rear Dial: WB Preset
QUAL: changes raw / jpeg / quality. But just don't use this. In fact, I reassigned my movie record button to ISO just to avoid accidentally pushing this stupid, pointless button.

Metering button:
  • Rear Dial: Metering Area
EC button:
  • Rear Dial: EC amount
You can reassign your AE-L / AF-L button to "AF-On" for back-button focusing.

I believe you should be able to see all of the above on the rear screen when you start holding the button. It should clearly guide you through which dial does what.

Make sure your controls aren't "locked" by being in the "L" position.

That should be the major ones. There are also a few additional buttons you can reassign, like the front Pv & Fn buttons. But hopefully that helps.

Read the manual.
Excellent, informative post Well done!
 
I'll have to look into 'My Menu.' Thanks.
+1

The "My Menu" feature really streamlines the camera IMHO.

A lot of the menu items either I don't use, or don't use often.

Sticking only what I use on the "My Menu" means for most of the time there is only one place to look for something I want to change.
I wonder if I can flash compensation there.
For the built-in flash, you don't need to even go into the menu.

Press and hold the flash pop-up button (even if the flash is already popped up) and then turn the sub-command dial (front dial) and that will change the flash exposure compensation.

This is on page 188 of the Nikon D750 manual.

Oh, yeah . . . I've downloaded the Nikon ManualViewer App for my phone and downloaded the manuals for the Nikon equipment I have. So if I am out somewhere and I need to look something up, I'm ready! And no paper manuals to drag along with me. :)

Take care & Happy Shooting!
:)
 
Lifelong Canon user. Switched to the Nikon D750 for the high dynamic range sensor. Why are the menus in this camera so arcane? Things I can't figure out:
  1. How to get a histogram displayed during image playback?
  2. Where the hell is the flash compensation adjustment buried?
  3. I figured focus point selection out - but it takes like three buttons and standing on your head. Any way to make this easy like on Canons?
So far Google and the 500+ page manual haven't helped.

Almost wished I would have just went with the new Canon 6D. Sensor not as good, but at least I could operate the camera.
 
Lifelong Canon user. Switched to the Nikon D750 for the high dynamic range sensor. Why are the menus in this camera so arcane? Things I can't figure out:
  1. How to get a histogram displayed during image playback?
  2. Where the hell is the flash compensation adjustment buried?
  3. I figured focus point selection out - but it takes like three buttons and standing on your head. Any way to make this easy like on Canons?
So far Google and the 500+ page manual haven't helped.

Almost wished I would have just went with the new Canon 6D. Sensor not as good, but at least I could operate the camera.
 
I figured focus point selection out - but it takes like three buttons and standing on your head. Any way to make this easy like on Canons?
What? You just use the big thumb wheel on the back.
Make sure it isn't locked. The lock position on the circular dial around mine gets bumped into the locked position all the time.
 

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