Lightroom CC...wha?

Headlands · Aug 17, 2018

Why would Adobe dumb down Lightroom CC so that you can't export different compression levels of JPEGs? Am I missing something? Even the incredibly simple Apple Preview exports with different JPEG compression levels. I know, I know: Use Lightroom Classic. Well, I just want to know why a major software company like Adobe makes a decision like this for one of their flagship products. I don't get it.

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Bobo Hodls · Aug 18, 2018

Headlands said:
Why would Adobe dumb down Lightroom CC so that you can't export different compression levels of JPEGs? Am I missing something? Even the incredibly simple Apple Preview exports with different JPEG compression levels. I know, I know: Use Lightroom Classic. Well, I just want to know why a major software company like Adobe makes a decision like this for one of their flagship products. I don't get it.

Adobe explained it, not hard to get at all.

Headlands · Aug 18, 2018

Bob Tullis said:
Headlands said:

Why would Adobe dumb down Lightroom CC so that you can't export different compression levels of JPEGs? Am I missing something? Even the incredibly simple Apple Preview exports with different JPEG compression levels. I know, I know: Use Lightroom Classic. Well, I just want to know why a major software company like Adobe makes a decision like this for one of their flagship products. I don't get it.

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Adobe explained it, not hard to get at all.

That doesn't help, but thanks! ;-)

Bobo Hodls · Aug 18, 2018

Headlands said:
Bob Tullis said:

Headlands said:

Why would Adobe dumb down Lightroom CC so that you can't export different compression levels of JPEGs? Am I missing something? Even the incredibly simple Apple Preview exports with different JPEG compression levels. I know, I know: Use Lightroom Classic. Well, I just want to know why a major software company like Adobe makes a decision like this for one of their flagship products. I don't get it.

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Adobe explained it, not hard to get at all.

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That doesn't help, but thanks! ;-)

Drink up , or not.

Gerry Winterbourne · Aug 18, 2018

Headlands said:
Why would Adobe dumb down Lightroom CC so that you can't export different compression levels of JPEGs? Am I missing something?

Compression is set in the Export dialogue on a sliding Quality scale from 0 to 100.

Headlands said:
Even the incredibly simple Apple Preview exports with different JPEG compression levels. I know, I know: Use Lightroom Classic. Well, I just want to know why a major software company like Adobe makes a decision like this for one of their flagship products.

They didn't - you missed it.

Headlands said:
I don't get it.

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Headlands · Aug 18, 2018

Gerry Winterbourne said:
Headlands said:

Why would Adobe dumb down Lightroom CC so that you can't export different compression levels of JPEGs? Am I missing something?

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Compression is set in the Export dialogue on a sliding Quality scale from 0 to 100.

Gerry Winterbourne said:

Even the incredibly simple Apple Preview exports with different JPEG compression levels. I know, I know: Use Lightroom Classic. Well, I just want to know why a major software company like Adobe makes a decision like this for one of their flagship products.

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They didn't - you missed it.

Gerry Winterbourne said:

I don't get it.

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There is no export dialog on the new Lightroom CC, is the issue. That's why I was saying the obvious option was to use Lightroom Classic CC, but I wanted to know why it's not offered on the newer cloud-based Lightroom CC. I probably should have been more specific.

Headlands · Aug 18, 2018

Bob Tullis said:
Drink up , or not.

Touché. I was being lazy, I fully admit.

robgendreau · Aug 18, 2018

I expect that given its origins there wasn't much demand for that functionality. Haven't seen too many complaints, but maybe there are requests for that feature over on Adobe's forums. It's missing a lot more, and hard to tell what their priorities will be for it going forward.

Gerry Winterbourne · Aug 19, 2018

Headlands said:
Gerry Winterbourne said:

Headlands said:

Why would Adobe dumb down Lightroom CC so that you can't export different compression levels of JPEGs? Am I missing something?

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Compression is set in the Export dialogue on a sliding Quality scale from 0 to 100.

Headlands said:

Even the incredibly simple Apple Preview exports with different JPEG compression levels. I know, I know: Use Lightroom Classic. Well, I just want to know why a major software company like Adobe makes a decision like this for one of their flagship products.

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They didn't - you missed it.

Headlands said:

I don't get it.

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There is no export dialog on the new Lightroom CC, is the issue. That's why I was saying the obvious option was to use Lightroom Classic CC, but I wanted to know why it's not offered on the newer cloud-based Lightroom CC. I probably should have been more specific.

That is a screenshot from my up-to-date Lightroom CC, so it is definitely "offered"! Under the File menu there are several Export … options.

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Headlands · Aug 19, 2018

Gerry Winterbourne said:
That is a screenshot from my up-to-date Lightroom CC, so it is definitely "offered"! Under the File menu there are several Export … options.

It's not on the newest Lightroom CC at all -- there's only "Save To" on when you want to export to JPEG. There are a good amount of people complaining about it on the web, I looked into it today. Apparently Adobe put it there because they felt it was better for people "on the go" with phones and pads, etc. I'll just stick with Lightroom Classic CC (which is what your screenshot is of) instead of the newer simplified one, until it doesn't work anymore on newer OS's, suppose.

Headlands · Aug 19, 2018

robgendreau said:
I expect that given its origins there wasn't much demand for that functionality. Haven't seen too many complaints, but maybe there are requests for that feature over on Adobe's forums. It's missing a lot more, and hard to tell what their priorities will be for it going forward.

It's missing a lot more indeed. I understand why they made it that way, for faster operation on the go with phones and iPads, etc. I think it's a mistake for them to not continue to have a fully up-to-date "pro" version that has the advanced features for people who want them. But I don't know anything about that side of business.

It's just weird that even the super simple Apple Preview has the ability to export JPEGs at different compression levels, but the newest Lightroom doesn't...but that's just how it is, c'est la vie.

Bobo Hodls · Aug 19, 2018

Gerry Winterbourne said:
Headlands said:

Gerry Winterbourne said:

Headlands said:

Why would Adobe dumb down Lightroom CC so that you can't export different compression levels of JPEGs? Am I missing something?

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Compression is set in the Export dialogue on a sliding Quality scale from 0 to 100.

Click to expand...

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That is a screenshot from my up-to-date Lightroom CC, so it is definitely "offered"! Under the File menu there are several Export … options.

That's Lightroom Classic CC, not Lightroom CC being shown above. Easy to get mixed up with that.

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CharlesB58 · Aug 19, 2018

Headlands said:
robgendreau said:

I expect that given its origins there wasn't much demand for that functionality. Haven't seen too many complaints, but maybe there are requests for that feature over on Adobe's forums. It's missing a lot more, and hard to tell what their priorities will be for it going forward.

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It's missing a lot more indeed. I understand why they made it that way, for faster operation on the go with phones and iPads, etc. I think it's a mistake for them to not continue to have a fully up-to-date "pro" version that has the advanced features for people who want them. But I don't know anything about that side of business.

When other companies offer mobile versions of virtually any software it has limited features. Even mobile websites are scaled down. This is due to several factors and is kind of a no brainer.

Headlands said:
It's just weird that even the super simple Apple Preview has the ability to export JPEGs at different compression levels, but the newest Lightroom doesn't...but that's just how it is, c'est la vie.

Gerry Winterbourne · Aug 19, 2018

Bob Tullis said:
Gerry Winterbourne said:

Headlands said:

Gerry Winterbourne said:

Headlands said:

Why would Adobe dumb down Lightroom CC so that you can't export different compression levels of JPEGs? Am I missing something?

Click to expand...

Compression is set in the Export dialogue on a sliding Quality scale from 0 to 100.

Click to expand...

Click to expand...

That is a screenshot from my up-to-date Lightroom CC, so it is definitely "offered"! Under the File menu there are several Export … options.

Click to expand...

That's Lightroom Classic CC, not Lightroom CC being shown above. Easy to get mixed up with that.

When I open LR it describes itself as Lightroom CC with no mention of Classic.

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CharlesB58 · Aug 19, 2018

IT says it on the icon. Also, that is not the splash screen from the very latest LR Classic. And, the UI on the right is very different on CC than Classic.

LR CC is NOT a desktop app adapted for mobile platforms. It's a mobile app adapted for use on desktops and laptops. As such, it's actually pretty robust an application, but not intended as an across the board replacement for LR Classic.

Comparing it to Apple Preview is anomalous anyway, since that app isn't intended to do what LR does.

sybersitizen · Aug 19, 2018

Gerry Winterbourne said:
That is a screenshot from my up-to-date Lightroom CC, so it is definitely "offered"! Under the File menu there are several Export … options.

When I open LR it describes itself as Lightroom CC with no mention of Classic.

You have The Program Formerly Known as Lightroom CC. It is now known as Lightroom Classic CC. LIghtroom CC is now the name for something else.

Read this and watch the video.

Strange that Adobe would do something that's lame and confusing for users, isn't it? <sarcasm emoji goes here>

Headlands · Aug 19, 2018

CharlesB58 said:
IT says it on the icon. Also, that is not the splash screen from the very latest LR Classic. And, the UI on the right is very different on CC than Classic.

LR CC is NOT a desktop app adapted for mobile platforms. It's a mobile app adapted for use on desktops and laptops. As such, it's actually pretty robust an application, but not intended as an across the board replacement for LR Classic.

Ah, I didn't realize that. So then my question is: Why aren't they continuing with LR Classic past the current version, for the people who do use it, which seems like a very big amount?

CharlesB58 said:
Comparing it to Apple Preview is anomalous anyway, since that app isn't intended to do what LR does.

If course it's very different, but my point was that it feels like a basic feature to me since it's built in to all of the photo apps, even simpler ones, that I've used or seen. But I've never used a mobile-based app like that, so there's that.

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CharlesB58 · Aug 19, 2018

Headlands said:
CharlesB58 said:

IT says it on the icon. Also, that is not the splash screen from the very latest LR Classic. And, the UI on the right is very different on CC than Classic.

LR CC is NOT a desktop app adapted for mobile platforms. It's a mobile app adapted for use on desktops and laptops. As such, it's actually pretty robust an application, but not intended as an across the board replacement for LR Classic.

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Ah, I didn't realize that. So then my question is: Why aren't they continuing with LR Classic past the current version, for the people who do use it, which seems like a very big amount?

They are continuing it. It's only the non-subscription version that is being discontinued.

Headlands said:
Headlands said:

Comparing it to Apple Preview is anomalous anyway, since that app isn't intended to do what LR does.

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If course it's very different, but my point was that it feels like a basic feature to me since it's built in to all of the photo apps, even simpler ones, that I've used or seen. But I've never used a mobile-based app like that, so there's that.

It allows a single downsize option when saving. Perhaps they left out a more robust compression option because you can do that in Photoshop Express mobile version, and it's easy to export the image from LR to that app. That's what I do if I'm using LR CC on my phone to work on an image and I want to save it at a smaller size. Takes only a few seconds.

Headlands said:
Headlands said:

Photography is not about the thing photographed. It is about how that thing looks photographed. Quote by Garry Winogrand
http://eyeguessphotography.com

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Headlands · Aug 19, 2018

CharlesB58 said:
They are continuing it. It's only the non-subscription version that is being discontinued.

Oh! I didn't realize that, somehow didn't see it when I was poking around. So all is good then -- this thread should never have happened, hahaha. My bad.

I need to make sure I look around before I have knee-jerk reactions about this kind of thing on the internets.

CharlesB58 said:
It allows a single downsize option when saving. Perhaps they left out a more robust compression option because you can do that in Photoshop Express mobile version, and it's easy to export the image from LR to that app. That's what I do if I'm using LR CC on my phone to work on an image and I want to save it at a smaller size. Takes only a few seconds.

Got it. It all makes sense now, thanks for all the clarifications.

CharlesB58 · Aug 19, 2018

Headlands said:
CharlesB58 said:

They are continuing it. It's only the non-subscription version that is being discontinued.

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Oh! I didn't realize that, somehow didn't see it when I was poking around. So all is good then -- this thread should never have happened, hahaha. My bad. I need to make sure I look around before I have knee-jerk reactions about this kind of thing on the internets.

Headlands said:

It allows a single downsize option when saving. Perhaps they left out a more robust compression option because you can do that in Photoshop Express mobile version, and it's easy to export the image from LR to that app. That's what I do if I'm using LR CC on my phone to work on an image and I want to save it at a smaller size. Takes only a few seconds.

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Got it. It all makes sense now, thanks for all the clarifications.

It can be hard to navigate all the misinformation and misunderstanding people post. Especially when 3 very similar names are used for what are actually different products.

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