Nikon P1000 vs Nikon D850 - Macro test

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P1000:


P1000

Nikon D850 + Nikkor 200mm micro D :


Nikon D850 + Nikkor 200mm micro D


Nikon Coolpix P1000 - 50%

Nikon D850 + Nikkor 200mm micro D - 50% :


Nikon D850 + Nikkor 200mm micro D - 50%

Nikon Coolpix P1000 - 100% :


Nikon Coolpix P1000 - 100%

Nikon D850 + Nikkor 200mm micro D - 100% :


Nikon D850 + Nikkor 200mm micro D - 100%

Nikon Coolpix P1000 - 200% :


Nikon Coolpix P1000 - 200%

Nikon D850 + Nikkor 200mm micro D - 200% :


Nikon D850 + Nikkor 200mm micro D - 200%

translated comments:

"Nikon P1000 vs Nikon D850 - Macro test

This morning between the warm lights of dawn a nice sharpness test of two machines at the top of technology.

Same subject, same settings, same time, angles with slightly different angles.
Very different distances.
Shot Data: 1/125 s, Iso100, F / 6.3, easel

With the and nikkor 200 mm micro d had to be at a distance of about 1 M from the mantis.
With the P1000 I was about 6 meters from the mantis.

Audience Raw as out of machines and converted to jpg with Nikon capture nx-D. No post production.

The sequence of images leaves with the entire frame, then with a detail at 50 %, then 100 % and finally one to 200 %.
(the details of the P1000 have been ricampionati to reach the size of those)

To note the greater depth of field field despite the greater distance from the subject.

Personal Opinion: making macro, in optimal condition, with the is much easier. I can stay a lot further from the subject and it's much easier to keep it on fire even with a single shot.
On the other hand, I have to be a lot closer with the d850 and it's much easier to rile up Even wrong slightly the fire is much easier with the d850 than with the P1000.

In Case of a quiet subject a plus of D850 is the automatic focus focus in addition to the other countless settings and customizations that the does not have. The strength of the file file even in the single shot is definitely higher, engraved and devoid of artifacts especially if enlarged to 100 %. The resolution of 45 mpx united to a full frame bsi sensor in detail makes a huge difference In favour of d850.

Looking though the first 2 Images At Full screen and without larger ones are not so different.

Do I recommend to a neophyte or an enthusiast of small subjects? Definitely yes.

For the most experts instead, it will be more rewarding and returns exciting images of details and nuances. Has many more tools to improve the quality and customization of images. But the costs are certainly greater.
"

..Excellent, thanks for sharing this!

..first thing is, omg, I would never have/had imagined to compare the P1000 with such cameras as the D850..

..but this is an intriguing test.. thanks Alberto!

..in the write-up review, Alberto mentioned that the Raw files were processed through Capture NX-D..

..of course the D850 files are supported, but did not think the P1000 Raw files would be supported too..

..as I have not tried opening the P1000 Raw files (NRW) using Capture NX-D yet (as I'm in the process of reinstalling softwares on my computer)..

..maybe someone can test this out and let us know the results..

..there is a possibility that Alberto was given an update of the Capture NX-D that's not officially released yet..

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..okay, below are screen captures for closer look of the first picture from Alberto..

..in my opinion, the picture from the P1000, shows too much sharpenings, and too much noise reductions.. (also, maybe the color settings can be adjusted/tweaked to produce better results)..

..as this is similar to the P900, if left in the cameras default settings (in my opinion)..

..on my P900, the Sharpening is set to '0' (zero) (the 'default' is +3), and the Noise Reduction is set to 'Low' (NR-) (the default is 'Normal')..

1. P1000..


..P1000..

2. D850..


..D850..

[edit] ..however, with everything said.. I am truly impressed with the P1000!

***********

..Cheers..

--
Regards, John..
..down with naysayers!
[YI M1 camera, Olympus 17mm f/1.8 lens, firmware 3.0]

"first thing is, omg, I would never have/had imagined to compare the P1000 with such cameras as the D850..

I agree, the D850 w/200mm macro is over $5K ! If the lighting conditions were brighter the P1000 would have looked better. The P1000 has the advantage of shooting macro from a much further distance.

"With the and nikkor 200 mm micro d had to be at a distance of about 1 M from the mantis.
With the P1000 I was about 6 meters from the mantis.

To note the greater depth of field field despite the greater distance from the subject.

Personal Opinion: making macro, in optimal condition, with the is much easier. I can stay a lot further from the subject and it's much easier to keep it on fire even with a single shot.
On the other hand, I have to be a lot closer with the d850 and it's much easier to rile up "

P10004K said:

"first thing is, omg, I would never have/had imagined to compare the P1000 with such cameras as the D850..

I agree, the D850 w/200mm macro is over $5K ! If the lighting conditions were brighter the P1000 would have looked better. The P1000 has the advantage of shooting macro from a much further distance.

"With the and nikkor 200 mm micro d had to be at a distance of about 1 M from the mantis.
With the P1000 I was about 6 meters from the mantis.

To note the greater depth of field field despite the greater distance from the subject.

Personal Opinion: making macro, in optimal condition, with the is much easier. I can stay a lot further from the subject and it's much easier to keep it on fire even with a single shot.
On the other hand, I have to be a lot closer with the d850 and it's much easier to rile up "

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Nice test...so your conclusion is....dump the D850 and get a P1000

bocajrs said:

P10004K said:

"first thing is, omg, I would never have/had imagined to compare the P1000 with such cameras as the D850..

I agree, the D850 w/200mm macro is over $5K ! If the lighting conditions were brighter the P1000 would have looked better. The P1000 has the advantage of shooting macro from a much further distance.

"With the and nikkor 200 mm micro d had to be at a distance of about 1 M from the mantis.
With the P1000 I was about 6 meters from the mantis.

To note the greater depth of field field despite the greater distance from the subject.

Personal Opinion: making macro, in optimal condition, with the is much easier. I can stay a lot further from the subject and it's much easier to keep it on fire even with a single shot.
On the other hand, I have to be a lot closer with the d850 and it's much easier to rile up "

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Nice test...so your conclusion is....dump the D850 and get a P1000

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There is no way the $1K P1000 16mp 1/2.3" sensor 125x superzoom will compare with a $5K 46mp full frame with 200mm macro for macro shots but for shooting a bird in the distance it will.

P1000 @3000mm :





The D850 with 28-300mm @300mm the bird will look 10x further away in the image.

That's the best comparison I've ever seen since the one between P900 and D810 (Nikkor 800mm) for zoom, made by John "Verm" Sherman in his review!

Thank you very much,

Augustin

P.S. And it's a final answer to the choice between superzooms and DSLRs

Very nice looking images from the P1000, just not as nice as the D850. I would like to see images with a 35 or 50mm prime on the D850 if you have one. These cameras together would make a great combo to own..one for long reach, the other for everything else like sports, portrait, landscape, and low light.

Sactojim said:

Very nice looking images from the P1000, just not as nice as the D850. I would like to see images with a 35 or 50mm prime on the D850 if you have one. These cameras together would make a great combo to own..one for long reach, the other for everything else like sports, portrait, landscape, and low light.

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The images here are from Alberto Ghizzi Panizza who is testing cameras for Nikon in Italy.

https://www.facebook.com/profile.ph...wSMiirXEAyOeo05c_8E&fref=nf&hc_location=group

P10004K said:

Sactojim said:

Very nice looking images from the P1000, just not as nice as the D850. I would like to see images with a 35 or 50mm prime on the D850 if you have one. These cameras together would make a great combo to own..one for long reach, the other for everything else like sports, portrait, landscape, and low light.

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The images here are from Alberto Ghizzi Panizza who is testing cameras for Nikon in Italy.

https://www.facebook.com/profile.ph...wSMiirXEAyOeo05c_8E&fref=nf&hc_location=group

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As a fyi, FB heavily compresses images but not sure if you downloaded them from this guy's FB page. Too bad he did not post them on DropBox, Flickr, Mega, etc. where the quality is more true to original.

Ah ha. Nice try, but the colors are different

P10004K said:

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P1000:


P1000

Nikon D850 + Nikkor 200mm micro D :


Nikon D850 + Nikkor 200mm micro D


Nikon Coolpix P1000 - 50%

Nikon D850 + Nikkor 200mm micro D - 50% :


Nikon D850 + Nikkor 200mm micro D - 50%

Nikon Coolpix P1000 - 100% :


Nikon Coolpix P1000 - 100%

Nikon D850 + Nikkor 200mm micro D - 100% :


Nikon D850 + Nikkor 200mm micro D - 100%

Nikon Coolpix P1000 - 200% :


Nikon Coolpix P1000 - 200%

Nikon D850 + Nikkor 200mm micro D - 200% :


Nikon D850 + Nikkor 200mm micro D - 200%

translated comments:

"Nikon P1000 vs Nikon D850 - Macro test

This morning between the warm lights of dawn a nice sharpness test of two machines at the top of technology.

Same subject, same settings, same time, angles with slightly different angles.
Very different distances.
Shot Data: 1/125 s, Iso100, F / 6.3, easel

With the and nikkor 200 mm micro d had to be at a distance of about 1 M from the mantis.
With the P1000 I was about 6 meters from the mantis.

Audience Raw as out of machines and converted to jpg with Nikon capture nx-D. No post production.

The sequence of images leaves with the entire frame, then with a detail at 50 %, then 100 % and finally one to 200 %.
(the details of the P1000 have been ricampionati to reach the size of those)

To note the greater depth of field field despite the greater distance from the subject.

Personal Opinion: making macro, in optimal condition, with the is much easier. I can stay a lot further from the subject and it's much easier to keep it on fire even with a single shot.
On the other hand, I have to be a lot closer with the d850 and it's much easier to rile up Even wrong slightly the fire is much easier with the d850 than with the P1000.

In Case of a quiet subject a plus of D850 is the automatic focus focus in addition to the other countless settings and customizations that the does not have. The strength of the file file even in the single shot is definitely higher, engraved and devoid of artifacts especially if enlarged to 100 %. The resolution of 45 mpx united to a full frame bsi sensor in detail makes a huge difference In favour of d850.

Looking though the first 2 Images At Full screen and without larger ones are not so different.

Do I recommend to a neophyte or an enthusiast of small subjects? Definitely yes.

For the most experts instead, it will be more rewarding and returns exciting images of details and nuances. Has many more tools to improve the quality and customization of images. But the costs are certainly greater.
"

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Quite an interesting comparison. Of course the D850 with 200mm macro is going to win when you look at the extreme blow ups.

But that said, the average person using this camera is not going to be blowing up the pictures to large sizes. Instead of cropping, they will just use more zoom.

I have macro lenses and a full frame camera. And I have the P1000 on order. But I expect to have more fun using the P1000 with the extreme zoom. And knowing the limitations, I will still be happy with results like these.

P10004K said:

https://www.facebook.com/profile.ph...b2IzAXQkZzPJeXbw3yQ&fref=nf&hc_location=group

P1000:

Nikon D850 + Nikkor 200mm micro D :

Nikon D850 + Nikkor 200mm micro D - 50% :

Nikon Coolpix P1000 - 100% :

Nikon D850 + Nikkor 200mm micro D - 100% :

Nikon Coolpix P1000 - 200% :

Nikon D850 + Nikkor 200mm micro D - 200% :

translated comments:

"Nikon P1000 vs Nikon D850 - Macro test

This morning between the warm lights of dawn a nice sharpness test of two machines at the top of technology.

Same subject, same settings, same time, angles with slightly different angles.
Very different distances.
Shot Data: 1/125 s, Iso100, F / 6.3, easel

With the and nikkor 200 mm micro d had to be at a distance of about 1 M from the mantis.
With the P1000 I was about 6 meters from the mantis.

Audience Raw as out of machines and converted to jpg with Nikon capture nx-D. No post production.

The sequence of images leaves with the entire frame, then with a detail at 50 %, then 100 % and finally one to 200 %.
(the details of the P1000 have been ricampionati to reach the size of those)

To note the greater depth of field field despite the greater distance from the subject.

Personal Opinion: making macro, in optimal condition, with the is much easier. I can stay a lot further from the subject and it's much easier to keep it on fire even with a single shot.
On the other hand, I have to be a lot closer with the d850 and it's much easier to rile up Even wrong slightly the fire is much easier with the d850 than with the P1000.

In Case of a quiet subject a plus of D850 is the automatic focus focus in addition to the other countless settings and customizations that the does not have. The strength of the file file even in the single shot is definitely higher, engraved and devoid of artifacts especially if enlarged to 100 %. The resolution of 45 mpx united to a full frame bsi sensor in detail makes a huge difference In favour of d850.

Looking though the first 2 Images At Full screen and without larger ones are not so different.

Do I recommend to a neophyte or an enthusiast of small subjects? Definitely yes.

For the most experts instead, it will be more rewarding and returns exciting images of details and nuances. Has many more tools to improve the quality and customization of images. But the costs are certainly greater.
"

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Obviously the D850 is better, but not by as much as I would have experted.

In all fairness when great DoF or long range (crop) is needed smaller sensors tens to pull away in the positive direction.

Larger sensors are however, outmatching the P1000's IQ in all normal ranges and in substantially in low light.

Milo_the_photographer said:

P10004K said:

https://www.facebook.com/profile.ph...b2IzAXQkZzPJeXbw3yQ&fref=nf&hc_location=group

P1000:

Nikon D850 + Nikkor 200mm micro D :

Nikon D850 + Nikkor 200mm micro D - 50% :

Nikon Coolpix P1000 - 100% :

Nikon D850 + Nikkor 200mm micro D - 100% :

Nikon Coolpix P1000 - 200% :

Nikon D850 + Nikkor 200mm micro D - 200% :

translated comments:

"Nikon P1000 vs Nikon D850 - Macro test

This morning between the warm lights of dawn a nice sharpness test of two machines at the top of technology.

Same subject, same settings, same time, angles with slightly different angles.
Very different distances.
Shot Data: 1/125 s, Iso100, F / 6.3, easel

With the and nikkor 200 mm micro d had to be at a distance of about 1 M from the mantis.
With the P1000 I was about 6 meters from the mantis.

Audience Raw as out of machines and converted to jpg with Nikon capture nx-D. No post production.

The sequence of images leaves with the entire frame, then with a detail at 50 %, then 100 % and finally one to 200 %.
(the details of the P1000 have been ricampionati to reach the size of those)

To note the greater depth of field field despite the greater distance from the subject.

Personal Opinion: making macro, in optimal condition, with the is much easier. I can stay a lot further from the subject and it's much easier to keep it on fire even with a single shot.
On the other hand, I have to be a lot closer with the d850 and it's much easier to rile up Even wrong slightly the fire is much easier with the d850 than with the P1000.

In Case of a quiet subject a plus of D850 is the automatic focus focus in addition to the other countless settings and customizations that the does not have. The strength of the file file even in the single shot is definitely higher, engraved and devoid of artifacts especially if enlarged to 100 %. The resolution of 45 mpx united to a full frame bsi sensor in detail makes a huge difference In favour of d850.

Looking though the first 2 Images At Full screen and without larger ones are not so different.

Do I recommend to a neophyte or an enthusiast of small subjects? Definitely yes.

For the most experts instead, it will be more rewarding and returns exciting images of details and nuances. Has many more tools to improve the quality and customization of images. But the costs are certainly greater.
"

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Obviously the D850 is better, but not by as much as I would have experted.

In all fairness when great DoF or long range (crop) is needed smaller sensors tens to pull away in the positive direction.

Larger sensors are however, outmatching the P1000's IQ in all normal ranges and in substantially in low light.

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Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. The D850 renditions are more pleasing to the eye. The P1000 shows more detail and would be a better use for forensics analysis.

Of course I am just being sarcastic But I am glad someone has put this into perspective. With all this hype over the Mirrorless inclusion I would seriously recommend posting this in the Nikon FX Forum!

Milo_the_photographer said:

Obviously the D850 is better, but not by as much as I would have experted.

In all fairness when great DoF or long range (crop) is needed smaller sensors tens to pull away in the positive direction.

Larger sensors are however, outmatching the P1000's IQ in all normal ranges and in substantially in low light.

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... and action (BIF, sport photo, etc.)

All the best,

Augustin

Augustin Man said:

Milo_the_photographer said:

Obviously the D850 is better, but not by as much as I would have experted.

In all fairness when great DoF or long range (crop) is needed smaller sensors tens to pull away in the positive direction.

Larger sensors are however, outmatching the P1000's IQ in all normal ranges and in substantially in low light.

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... and action (BIF, sport photo, etc.)

All the best,

Augustin

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..however, I'm eager to see how the P1000 can do in shorter focal lengths & bursts modes..

..below are couple of pictures from my P900 camera, sooc jpeg..


..P900, sooc jpeg..


..P900, sooc jpeg..


..first picture, screen capture for closer look..

..Cheers..

Wonderful images, congratulations! I'm not talking about skilled photographers like you and many others on this forum, I'm just saying in low light or action (and even more for action in low light ), the bigger the sensor, the easier to get a good image.

Happy shooting,

Augustin

Augustin Man said:

Wonderful images, congratulations! I'm not talking about skilled photographers like you and many others on this forum, I'm just saying in low light or action (and even more for action in low light ), the bigger the sensor, the easier to get a good image.

Happy shooting,

Augustin

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..Thanks, Augustin..

..but, I'm also an amateur & hoppyist.. ;-)

..and I think your skills are the tops.. :-D

..Cheers..