Anyone else ditched the 24-120VR ?

Vincent · Sep 17, 2003

I haven't done any test with a brickwall yet. Ill try it later today.

LeeD said:
Regards.

Vincent said:

http://www.pbase.com/image/21422345/original

I haven't noticed anything wrong with the right-side focus issue
thing, perhaps you could take a look at this shot. It's at 24mm
F3.5. It's not the sharpest lens, but what am I complaining about,
I got 6 MP and the range/VR are useful.

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Nikon D100, 24-120 VR
Nikon Coolpix 4500

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Nikon D100, 24-120 VR
Nikon Coolpix 4500

MelissaM169251 · Sep 17, 2003

I am not condemning anyone. I apologize if I sounded negative. I shouldn't have chosen better words than "chewed me out". It doesn't matter now. I sent the lens to Nikon for repair and no more complaining...Melissa

hmac said:
MelissaM said:

I posted a simlar post about this lens a few weeks ago and I got
chewed out by several in this forum. I think they were offended and
protective of this lens. So I am not saying much about it except I
sent it back to Nikon and they are checking it out for me...Melissa

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Geez, I read those posts and I don't recall anything like a
"chewing out". I remember a lot of people giving you the benefits
of their extensive photographic experience relative to your own and
trying to gently correct your impressions of equipment malfunction
vs. your skill and knowledge. I thought it was a remarkable display
of generosity by people like Jono Slack and Pete Biro. You may have
felt better if they had confirmed your suspicion that you had a bad
lens, but, you wanted them to be honest didn't you?

Didn't you?

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hmac · Sep 17, 2003

Melissa, I sincerely hope they can make it work to your satisfaction.

I haven't mastered that lens by any means either. Gad, from a humility standpoint, photography is worse than golf...
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LeeD · Sep 17, 2003

Your lens seems to be free from the dreaded right-side blur issue, but to be really sure, post at FULL resolution.

Regards.

Wei-Hui said:
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1030&message=6120954

LeeD said:

Regards.

Vincent said:

http://www.pbase.com/image/21422345/original

I haven't noticed anything wrong with the right-side focus issue
thing, perhaps you could take a look at this shot. It's at 24mm
F3.5. It's not the sharpest lens, but what am I complaining about,
I got 6 MP and the range/VR are useful.

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Vincent S.
http://www.pbase.com/vincent8

Nikon D100, 24-120 VR
Nikon Coolpix 4500

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LorenDJones · Sep 17, 2003

I just picked up the 50 1.8 and wasn't not overly impressed with the first round of images from it. Tell me your experience with the 1.4 while I still have a day or so to exchange! Thanks.

--Loren

Jack Kennealy · Sep 17, 2003

My 24-120/VR has been performing magnificently. I find the focal length range (eff. 36-180) to be ideal for portraiture of all kinds. I've done fine art landscapes, printed as large as 12x18, all tack sharp - including one that was hand-held at 1/60 sec.

Obviously, it's not as good as the f/2.8 lenses I use with my F5, but I find that it's an extraordinarily good lens and has exceeded my expectations - by miles!

Don't forget - if you're on a tripod. turn the VR off!

Abe · Sep 17, 2003

Last month I replaced my 24-120 with the new VR version after many years of excellent service. There is nothing wrong with this lens.

I think what is wrong is that some people have spectacular and unrealistic expectations from a 5X zoom lens. You get what you pay for.

The 24-120 is a well designed general purpose lens with a great range and VR capability at a reasonable price. I would rather do a little sharpening in Photoshop here and there than carry around a bunch of massive lenses (and I have a lot of them!).

--Abe

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LeeD said:
I did the unthinkable today. After going through several samples of
the 24-120VR with no success of a sharp one, I said enough is
enough and finally ditched the 24-120VR for the AFS24-85. Out goes
blurry right-sides, soft edges, and wobbly front lenses. It just
seems to me Nikon has done itself a disservice this time by
releasing products way before they're matured, probably in the hope
of keeping up with Canon. AFS coupled with VR is probably too much
to handle.

Just one man's unfortunate experience ...

Wei-Hui · Sep 18, 2003

Can you do a brick wall test on your 24-85 G at 24mm F3.5? I sold away mine so I can't do any more test. It would be nice to see a side by side comparison. Thanks.

BGR104 said:
Roger104 said:

Do you consider this soft?

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1030&message=6120954

LeeD said:

Regards.

Vincent said:

http://www.pbase.com/image/21422345/original

I haven't noticed anything wrong with the right-side focus issue
thing, perhaps you could take a look at this shot. It's at 24mm
F3.5. It's not the sharpest lens, but what am I complaining about,
I got 6 MP and the range/VR are useful.

--
Vincent S.
http://www.pbase.com/vincent8

Nikon D100, 24-120 VR
Nikon Coolpix 4500

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WH
http://weihui.instantlogic.com
http://www.pbase.com/whl

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Wei-Hui · Sep 18, 2003

Full resolution:

http://weihui.instantlogic.com/images//Photos/ {3F7ABAF8-F0B8-47A5-B1E3-DDF1EB640633} {94DD89CD-7EC9-4BEB-8C12-AEE65ED09450}.jpg

LeeD said:
Regards.

Wei-Hui said:

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1030&message=6120954

LeeD said:

Regards.

Vincent said:

http://www.pbase.com/image/21422345/original

I haven't noticed anything wrong with the right-side focus issue
thing, perhaps you could take a look at this shot. It's at 24mm
F3.5. It's not the sharpest lens, but what am I complaining about,
I got 6 MP and the range/VR are useful.

--
Vincent S.
http://www.pbase.com/vincent8

Nikon D100, 24-120 VR
Nikon Coolpix 4500

Click to expand...

Click to expand...

--
WH
http://weihui.instantlogic.com
http://www.pbase.com/whl

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http://weihui.instantlogic.com
http://www.pbase.com/whl

ResIpsaLoquitur · Sep 18, 2003

Abe wrote:
. You get what you pay

I didn't pay for uneaven right-side softness and generally naff performance, but that's what I got with my sample.

RIL

ResIpsaLoquitur · Sep 18, 2003

Mine is great. Very sharp images. Plasticky construction is my main compaint, but the glass is good.

It is bettered optically by the amazing 85mm F1.4. Finest Nikon glass made, in my view - sharper at F1.4 than most lenses are stopped down. But the 50mm f1.4 is a great companion, and togethrer I know I have more and better options than with some mediocre "OK" mid-range zoom.

RIL

LorenDJones said:
I just picked up the 50 1.8 and wasn't not overly impressed with
the first round of images from it. Tell me your experience with
the 1.4 while I still have a day or so to exchange! Thanks.

--Loren

LeeD · Sep 18, 2003

Good news, Wei-Hui. Your lens seems fine to me. In fact it looked sharp all round. Lucky devil =).

Regards.

Wei-Hui said:
http://weihui.instantlogic.com/images//Photos/ {3F7ABAF8-F0B8-47A5-B1E3-DDF1EB640633} {94DD89CD-7EC9-4BEB-8C12-AEE65ED09450}.jpg

LeeD said:

Regards.

Wei-Hui said:

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1030&message=6120954

LeeD said:

Regards.

Vincent said:

http://www.pbase.com/image/21422345/original

I haven't noticed anything wrong with the right-side focus issue
thing, perhaps you could take a look at this shot. It's at 24mm
F3.5. It's not the sharpest lens, but what am I complaining about,
I got 6 MP and the range/VR are useful.

--
Vincent S.
http://www.pbase.com/vincent8

Nikon D100, 24-120 VR
Nikon Coolpix 4500

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WH
http://weihui.instantlogic.com
http://www.pbase.com/whl

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http://www.pbase.com/whl

Wei-Hui · Sep 18, 2003

I tested 2 lenses in the shop. Both gave me some degree of softness at the corner. i chose one that I 'feel' less distorted even though both are really closed.

LeeD said:
Good news, Wei-Hui. Your lens seems fine to me. In fact it looked
sharp all round. Lucky devil =).

Regards.

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Jim Kaye · Sep 18, 2003

Jack Kennealy said:
Don't forget - if you're on a tripod. turn the VR off!

I've assumed this is what Nikon instructs only because VR is unnecessary if the tripod is stable, and why waste the battery. Does anyone know of any theoretical or practical reason that results might be inferior with VR turned on (compared to off) when using a tripod?

Jim Kaye

Abe · Sep 18, 2003

OK -- fair enough.

But answer this -- where else can you can find a 5X zoom range with VR capability (or even without) that performs better than the 24-120 for $560? If you can find such a lens, than that's what you should buy. If you can't, then the 24-120VR is the current state-of-the-art for that range/price.

--Abe

http://www.abekleinfeld.com

ResIpsaLoquitur said:
Abe wrote:
. You get what you pay

I didn't pay for uneaven right-side softness and generally naff
performance, but that's what I got with my sample.

RIL

Roger104 · Sep 18, 2003

Sorry for the delay but I just noticed your request.

AF-S 24-85 G lens. we dont have too many brick walls in Florida I just took this shot from my outside wall of my house at 24mm f3.5 (centerweight) I shoot 95% of the time in aperture preferred.
Regards

Roger

Abe said:
But answer this -- where else can you can find a 5X zoom range with
VR capability (or even without) that performs better than the
24-120 for $560? If you can find such a lens, than that's what you
should buy. If you can't, then the 24-120VR is the current
state-of-the-art for that range/price.

--Abe

http://www.abekleinfeld.com

ResIpsaLoquitur said:

Abe wrote:
. You get what you pay

I didn't pay for uneaven right-side softness and generally naff
performance, but that's what I got with my sample.

RIL

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BGR104

Wei-Hui · Sep 18, 2003

Any full resolution picture? Thanks.

BGR104 said:
Roger

Abe said:

But answer this -- where else can you can find a 5X zoom range with
VR capability (or even without) that performs better than the
24-120 for $560? If you can find such a lens, than that's what you
should buy. If you can't, then the 24-120VR is the current
state-of-the-art for that range/price.

--Abe

http://www.abekleinfeld.com

ResIpsaLoquitur said:

Abe wrote:
. You get what you pay

I didn't pay for uneaven right-side softness and generally naff
performance, but that's what I got with my sample.

RIL

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Hubert Tse · Sep 18, 2003

I cannot say that the s4-120VR is an excellent lense but I have found that it is convenient to use (the zoom range and VR) with reasonable results.

Best regards,

K. Tse

LeeD said:
I did the unthinkable today. After going through several samples of
the 24-120VR with no success of a sharp one, I said enough is
enough and finally ditched the 24-120VR for the AFS24-85. Out goes
blurry right-sides, soft edges, and wobbly front lenses. It just
seems to me Nikon has done itself a disservice this time by
releasing products way before they're matured, probably in the hope
of keeping up with Canon. AFS coupled with VR is probably too much
to handle.

Just one man's unfortunate experience ...

Hubert Tse · Sep 18, 2003

Two more photo from my Russian trip. The last one is taken handheld.

Regards,

K. Tse

Kelvin Tse said:
I cannot say that the s4-120VR is an excellent lense but I have
found that it is convenient to use (the zoom range and VR) with
reasonable results.

Roger104 · Sep 19, 2003

Original all I have time for now. Large/fine Jpeg
Regards

Roger

Wei-Hui said:
BGR104 said:

Roger

Abe said:

But answer this -- where else can you can find a 5X zoom range with
VR capability (or even without) that performs better than the
24-120 for $560? If you can find such a lens, than that's what you
should buy. If you can't, then the 24-120VR is the current
state-of-the-art for that range/price.

--Abe

http://www.abekleinfeld.com

ResIpsaLoquitur said:

Abe wrote:
. You get what you pay

I didn't pay for uneaven right-side softness and generally naff
performance, but that's what I got with my sample.

RIL

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