Sony a7III, a9, a7RIII SmallRig camera plate

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I just received a couple of the SmallRig Arca-Swiss plates for the latest generation of Sony alpha 7 and 9 cameras. They are quite a bit cheaper than the RRS plates and have some interesting features, so I decided to do a short report.

With the RRS plate, you can order a version that has a removable vertical Arca-Swiss foot, or one that doesn't. The SmallRig just comes one way, with the removable foot. There are two ways to remove the foot from the rest of the SmallRig plate. The one that removes the most weight is unscrewing the Allen screw from the bottom, sliding the foot out, and putting the screw back in the foot so you don't lose it. If you do that, you'll have two pieces that look like this:

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You could also unscrew the two smaller bolts in the bracket -- you can see the relief for them on the very left of the shot above -- but that leaves the slider in place.

I don't use the vertical foot much because it limits access to the left side of the camera, even though it slides out half an inch or so. But there's a feature of the SmallRig foot that may interest you:

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Note the 5 1/4-20-threaded holes in the foot. Those could be useful if you want to attach stuff -- maybe a 7-inch display, maybe a recorder, maybe a flash -- to the side of the camera.

Here are both the RRS and the SmallRig plates as viewed from the bottom rear:

RRS
RRS

SmallRig
SmallRig

Both RRS and SmalRig provide a place to stow the Allen wrench. Both provide loops on the bottom for a strap, although the RRS one looks a little stronger (and certainly more expensive to make). The SmallRig plate provided another strap attachment point on the side of the plate near the battery door.

The biggest difference is the way the battery door is handled. In the RRS case, the battery door must be removed from the camera and attached to the plate. The SmallRig plate allows battery access by leaving the door on the camera and providing more finger relief. Both of these approaches mitigate to some extent the poor weather sealing of the Sony a9, a7III, and a7RIII battery doors.

Another important difference is that the SmallRig plate is thicker:

SmallRig in the back, RRS in front
SmallRig in the back, RRS in front

SmallRig on top, RRS on the bottom
SmallRig on top, RRS on the bottom

The thick SmallRig plate provides enough grip surface that I can use my pinkie finger to hold the camera. With the RRS plate, my little finger ends up on the bottom of the plate. So the thickness of the SmallRig plate is a win for me. Your fingers may feel differently, though.

Here are the two plates viewed from the top:

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See the that surrounds the battery opening on the RRS plate? That's a good thing, but water can still get through the door when it's mounted to the bottom of the RRS plate.

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There are two threaded holes on the front of the SmallRig plate that could be used to attach stuff, although they are smaller than 1/4-20. The battery access relief on the SmalRig makes the metal thinner; I suppose that it could be bent if the plate is bashed against something hard. That could be considered a good thing if it reduces the g-loading on the camera enough to prevent damage; the plate could be considered sacrificial.

Kirk and other Arca-Swiss plates are incompatible with the RRS cam clamps; it feels like they are locking in place, but the fit is too loose and the grip is iffy. These plates work with the RRS quick-release clamps. The fit is tighter than real RRS plates, but they can be clamped into place. Of course, like the Kirk plates, they work just fine with the thumbscrew clamps.

All in all, I like the SmallRig plates.

Jim

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Thanks Jim
 
Been a fan for some time now of the Smallrig. Started a thread a few weeks back on it.

 
Mine arrived early this morning. Have not had a chance to try it with the Techart Pro. First impressions are that it is well made, it adds a very noticible amount of weight so will probably use just the bottom plate. Shame about the two different sizes of Allen screws. It does provide double the "pinky" space over the Lim's half case.
 
Great review Jim, had the Smallrig on order for a while pre release, but unfortunately its not compatible with my Manfrotto mhxpro-bhq6.

Time to find a milling machine or get busy with a file as its around 2mm too wide on the bottom of the bracket.

Gary
 
...some GT-5000 griptape...

https://www.amazon.com/GT-5000-stri...=1530221213&sr=1-1&keywords=gt-5000+grip+tape

(I bought a 6-sheet pack but I can't now find that.)

It works VERY well at providing some stiction to the finger rest. I added some also to the front of my 7R3's grip to make a little longer front-to-back. Here are a couple pics.

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My ugly flash fotografy emphasizes the difference in color, texture, and gloss. The front of the body's grip has three or four layers on it. The GT-500's instructions indicate that it doesn't stick to itself very well. I cleaned all surfaces with isopropyl alcohol and find that it sticks very well to ALL surfaces to which I applied it.

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Great review Jim, had the Smallrig on order for a while pre release, but unfortunately its not compatible with my Manfrotto mhxpro-bhq6.

Time to find a milling machine or get busy with a file as its around 2mm too wide on the bottom of the bracket.

Gary
I asked the next versions of l-plates to be 38mm instead of 40mm to 'follow' the arca-specs better (even if the specs are not that stable).

Daniel.
 
Great review Jim, had the Smallrig on order for a while pre release, but unfortunately its not compatible with my Manfrotto mhxpro-bhq6.

Time to find a milling machine or get busy with a file as its around 2mm too wide on the bottom of the bracket.

Gary
I asked the next versions of l-plates to be 38mm instead of 40mm to 'follow' the arca-specs better (even if the specs are not that stable).

Daniel.
Just don't make it so thin that the RRS cam-clamps don't fully engage...

Jim
 
Hi,

Thanks for the review Jim, its not that i make any money by more sales (even if i co-designed it) but it started for me because i have big hands so asked smallrig if they would make one if others can be helped thats cool. If you have questions and/or ideas please share them here and ill try to make sure to answer them and/or take it into the next version that will be made at some point in the future.

How to correctly install it :


and 3 'DIY' things i added and hope to bring into the next design is the outside with some 'guntape' :

(sorry for the bad video it was hot)

and the weather improvements i added (that was then plan from the start why i didn't want to move the door)


My personal view (also owning the sony one, rss one) is that the smallrig is best for people with bigger hands (>19cm wrist to finger top). Mine are 20.5cm. For avg hands i could see the rss or one of its clones work best.

Smallrig as a brand makes many videorig parts and these l-brackets are new for them and they are still learning. When sales are well they mostly redesign based on user feedback 3 or 4 times in a product cycle so share ideas i am keeping a list.

I have been using pre-production and production versions for a few months now.

Daniel.
 
Great review Jim, had the Smallrig on order for a while pre release, but unfortunately its not compatible with my Manfrotto mhxpro-bhq6.

Time to find a milling machine or get busy with a file as its around 2mm too wide on the bottom of the bracket.

Gary
I asked the next versions of l-plates to be 38mm instead of 40mm to 'follow' the arca-specs better (even if the specs are not that stable).

Daniel.
Just don't make it so thin that the RRS cam-clamps don't fully engage...

Jim
 
Great review Jim, had the Smallrig on order for a while pre release, but unfortunately its not compatible with my Manfrotto mhxpro-bhq6.

Time to find a milling machine or get busy with a file as its around 2mm too wide on the bottom of the bracket.

Gary
I asked the next versions of l-plates to be 38mm instead of 40mm to 'follow' the arca-specs better (even if the specs are not that stable).

Daniel.
Just don't make it so thin that the RRS cam-clamps don't fully engage...
Well please advice then whole mess with arca differences aint easy with 2 kind or shapes (mostly usa vs rest of the world). The rss l-plate is 38mm the smallrig 40mm so i wanted to ask them to make the next 38mm will that be ok ?
I'll do some measurements, if you'd like. Are you talking about the outside dimension? I do know the Kirk plates are too narrow for the RRS clamps, and the SmallRig is very tight.

Jim
 
Great review Jim, had the Smallrig on order for a while pre release, but unfortunately its not compatible with my Manfrotto mhxpro-bhq6.

Time to find a milling machine or get busy with a file as its around 2mm too wide on the bottom of the bracket.

Gary
I asked the next versions of l-plates to be 38mm instead of 40mm to 'follow' the arca-specs better (even if the specs are not that stable).

Daniel.
Just don't make it so thin that the RRS cam-clamps don't fully engage...
Well please advice then whole mess with arca differences aint easy with 2 kind or shapes (mostly usa vs rest of the world). The rss l-plate is 38mm the smallrig 40mm so i wanted to ask them to make the next 38mm will that be ok ?
I'll do some measurements, if you'd like. Are you talking about the outside dimension? I do know the Kirk plates are too narrow for the RRS clamps, and the SmallRig is very tight.

Jim
Yeah i was talking about how wide the plate is, seems that kessler leaver system doesn't work plate is too wide to close. The shape is a whole other problem smallrig is following the 'arca' shape as they first made it many others now follow rrs shape thats not the same.. what is a company todo ? My idea now was to keep the shape 100% the same but just 2mm less wide so its the same width as the rrs one. Pity that arca is such a mess..

Daniel.
 
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Mine arrived early this morning. Have not had a chance to try it with the Techart Pro. First impressions are that it is well made, it adds a very noticible amount of weight so will probably use just the bottom plate. Shame about the two different sizes of Allen screws. It does provide double the "pinky" space over the Lim's half case.

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The 170grams makes many lenses balance much better, 1635gm,24105,90mm and most in the 500gram to 800grams. Even the 100400GM now feels much better but thats also because of the bigger area.

You only need the smaller tool if you want to take the L part apart that is normally not needed unless you want to reuse that part to for example attach a coldshoe.

Daniel.
 
Great review Jim, had the Smallrig on order for a while pre release, but unfortunately its not compatible with my Manfrotto mhxpro-bhq6.

Time to find a milling machine or get busy with a file as its around 2mm too wide on the bottom of the bracket.

Gary
I asked the next versions of l-plates to be 38mm instead of 40mm to 'follow' the arca-specs better (even if the specs are not that stable).

Daniel.
Just don't make it so thin that the RRS cam-clamps don't fully engage...
Well please advice then whole mess with arca differences aint easy with 2 kind or shapes (mostly usa vs rest of the world). The rss l-plate is 38mm the smallrig 40mm so i wanted to ask them to make the next 38mm will that be ok ?
I think so. Maybe a hair bigger than that.

Some measured values:



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I love having an excuse to use my Mitutoyo electronic micrometers.

Jim

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