Fuji x100f Raw or jpeg for casual photos?

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I am downsizing from slr and major photo editing. I am considering a Fuji X100F. Is there a significant difference between Raw and jpeg out of this camera? I will be using the camera for casual images and travel. The results will be used to create a dvd ( or Blu Ray ) slide show. Can someone send a image that is shot in RAW/jpeg where the RAW is edited to jpeg with no post processing and jpeg image as it come from the camera?

thks Joe S
 
I decided to downsize to an X100F as my only camera. So, I sold my X-T2, X-E2, and all of my lenses. This is not my first attempt at this. I used nothing but an X100T for almost seven months and actually enjoyed shooting more. But I made the mistake of selling the X100T and keeping mY X-E2 and lenses instead.

I would like to help you with your request but I've also gone back to shooting FINE only. About the only thing I really loose is the ability to take an image shot in B&W or Acros and make it into color.

As far as I remember, these were all shot in Classic Chrome.

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I am downsizing from slr and major photo editing. I am considering a Fuji X100F. Is there a significant difference between Raw and jpeg out of this camera? I will be using the camera for casual images and travel. The results will be used to create a dvd ( or Blu Ray ) slide show. Can someone send a image that is shot in RAW/jpeg where the RAW is edited to jpeg with no post processing and jpeg image as it come from the camera?

thks Joe S
 
I am downsizing from slr and major photo editing. I am considering a Fuji X100F. Is there a significant difference between Raw and jpeg out of this camera? I will be using the camera for casual images and travel. The results will be used to create a dvd ( or Blu Ray ) slide show. Can someone send a image that is shot in RAW/jpeg where the RAW is edited to jpeg with no post processing and jpeg image as it come from the camera?

thks Joe S

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I do RAW+JPEG-Fine. SD card space and hard disk space is cheap now. So it can't be a storage space issue that's driving you do even ponder the question, is it?

The only situation where it has a meaningful difference is if I shoot lots of burst mode. Then RAW+JPG on the 24MP sensor Fujis takes like 66MB and so I run out of buffer much sooner than had I shot just JPG.

Even if I like the look of Fuji's SOOC JPEG (and I DO), I like having the RAW to fall back on if I need to recover highlights or lift shadows.
 
Both are good no matter the camera. With RAW you can’t go wrong. I use Iridient developer to process them.

However shooting raw will turn off some features like film simulation bracketing for example
 
Anyone that has a camera from any maker that can shoot RAW images and does not set the camera to record in RAW format even if they also record JPGs, RAW + JPG, is, IMHO, a FOOL. Casual photos or not.

Even if you never use the RAW images not having them means you are not using the camera to its full potential. And in the event you do need them you have them
 
Anyone that has a camera from any maker that can shoot RAW images and does not set the camera to record in RAW format even if they also record JPGs, RAW + JPG, is, IMHO, a FOOL. Casual photos or not.
Calling those with a more casual relationship with photography fools. . . that doesn't sound very wise to me.
 
Fuji’s JPGs are usually much nicer than JPGs from other systems. That being said I would always shoot JPG + Raw so you have the option of editing further in high dynamic range situations. It’s easy an inexpensive to dump the Raws on an external drive until you need them.
 
A JPG from the camera is taken from a RAW exposure (whether you shoot RAW+JPG or not), and modified in camera. So making a RAW look like a JPG out of camera. . . I don't see the sense.

What you want to know is whether what you'll be photographing will need substantial editing to make it as you like it. If it does, RAW applies. If it only needs minor retouching (if any at all) depends on your subject, the camera settings, and your vision of what you will be capturing/displaying. For good light exposures you should find the JPGs more than sufficient. But you'll take RAW+JPG until you are sure, if you care about every single exposure you make and won't tolerate throw-aways.

I tend to ask a lot from exposures with high ISO, so RAW is key. But the JPGs out of camera are quite impressive (with the same sensor) and sufficient often enough. I'm starting to wonder how much I need to shoot RAW with this rig (but I'll continue with RAW, for I want to eke all that's possible from an exposure, whenever I feel that's necessary).

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. Here's a reason for RAW. It's impressive, shadows are fine. But some of the blown highlights on the spray and stairs I would like to better tame, and it's not possible with this JPG. Not everyone would be that focused on that nuance here, however - YMMV, that is.

. Here's a reason for RAW. It's impressive, shadows are fine. But some of the blown highlights on the spray and stairs I would like to better tame, and it's not possible with this JPG. Not everyone would be that focused on that nuance here, however - YMMV, that is.

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Anyone that has a camera from any maker that can shoot RAW images and does not set the camera to record in RAW format even if they also record JPGs, RAW + JPG, is, IMHO, a FOOL. Casual photos or not.
Calling those with a more casual relationship with photography fools. . . that doesn't sound very wise to me.
 
I was using a custom-made develop preset in Lightroom and shooting raw, but there are too many variables... I was actually missing shots due to not nailing the sharpness or contrast right in camera...
Now, I'm enjoying shooting mostly all on Fine with NR on -2, and evaluative metering.
I set B&W to the custom button and Ill go back and forth depending on the subject... Its very satisfying to have a good B&W shot that you "Intended" to make.

The tones, sharpness, and contrast are amazing the way they come out you can finalize them in about 30 seconds in Lightroom

Heres some stuff I've shot this way with almost no editing done to them besides NR



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Thanks for looking - Dave
 
I shoot my X100F in Fine JPEG mode almost always... it’s that good. I’m a big fan of Classic Chrome and ACROS, also Velvia for punchy landscapes. I will say if I shoot in very low light I’ll often shoot RAW+JPEG so I have the negative, so to speak... although with Fuji it’s so rarely needed anyways, the JPEGs come out and they’re so often good to go with minimal anything - instead of hours tinkering in Lightroom - I have so little patience for hobbyist photos. I also shoot the Sony A7iii, and RAW comes into play much more on that “side of town.”



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Anyone that has a camera from any maker that can shoot RAW images and does not set the camera to record in RAW format even if they also record JPGs, RAW + JPG, is, IMHO, a FOOL. Casual photos or not.
Calling those with a more casual relationship with photography fools. . . that doesn't sound very wise to me.

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That's where you and I differ.
I agree with Bob. Besides the OP has said he wants to downsize from major photo editing. It's a good thing to read the OP's needs before coming with condescending advices...

Personally, I haven't shot RAW anymore since I've been using Olympus OMD and Fuji cameras. Especially with Fuji I find the jpeg more than good enough. Actually I find them fantastic!

Besides I've learned to accept the fact that I have to accept a pic the way it is after it's been taken. It's b&w and it would have been better in colour? A pity, but it's not the end of the world, get over it! This way of photographing forces me to think more about what I'm doing and I've got the impression that I get a lot more keepers this way. YMMV.

I don't say that everyone should do so. It's of course perfectly valid to shoot RAW and to spend hours in front of your PC if that's the way you want to do it. I'm just saying that you're no fool if you adopt the other way. You have to know what you want. If there are fools, you can find them in both camps. Sure, someone who wants to edit every pics and refuse to shoot RAW is maybe doing something wrong. As is the one who overcook his pics to death, because he thinks it's the only way to pass as a serious photograph...

Cheers, Jerome
 
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Just because you record the RAW sensor data doesn't mean you have to use it or even save it to your computer if the JPG for that same shot is fine (if that is what you want to do). But to not record it and have it available just in case something goes wrong with the JPG is, IMHO, FOOLISH.
 
Anyone that has a camera from any maker that can shoot RAW images and does not set the camera to record in RAW format even if they also record JPGs, RAW + JPG, is, IMHO, a FOOL.
Whatever your opinion may be, it certainly isn't humble - IMHO of course.
IMHO for me would be In My Honest Opinion. Not Humble.
 
if it’s of any help you can do film sim bracketing which give oh 3 different rendered jpegs.

the color rendering is also semi customizable so jpegs differ to user preferences.

X100F delivers fantastic jpegs if that’s what you are looking for. Raw helps if you want to lift shadows in post.
 
Photography is about finding different angles, perspectives, challenges...I love to shoot in RAW but sometimes challenge myself to just shoot Jpegs. It`s about nailing the shot in the moment without having the safety net of a raw file that can be heavily manipulated. I don`t find that foolish at all but YMMV.

Another thing with the X100F: Shooting in jpeg mode allows you to use the digital zoom which I love to use for portraits. Sure, you can switch to Jpeg every time you want to use the "zoom" but the user experience is not as smooth.

I shot these yesterday with the X100f in jpeg mode set to Classic Chrome. Shadows and highlights set to -2, color +1. I also used the digital teleconverter, at least on the first shot. The ND filter was on as well.

Disclaimer: I still made a few small corrections in Lightroom CC...apparently, I just can`t help myself! ;-))



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Thanks guys for all the inputs. I think I'll start with jpegs and go from there. I have Photoshop/Curvemeister and Luminar 2018. Luminar makes it somewhat easier but quite often I don't like the results especially if I am editing a RAW image.
 

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