SD10 a joke !

As a S400 owner, and a happy one at that, I wouldn't be in the market for this one. For me the S400 is small enough, but.... still packs 90% of the featureset of a higher performance bulker camera.

But that said if you already have a bulker cam this may be a way to go.

For me the only downside is that it dosen't use CF cards wgich for me was also the dealmaker in the S400, a miniature work of art that uses THE storage standard. It's nice to have a half or a 1 gig card when traveling.

But again if this camera is for the ocassional shot then the even the stock 32MB card supplied is OK.

It's just that the S400 gives you a real camera for not much more sacrafice in size or cost and interchangable memory with your G3, DSLR etc...

My nickelsworth of bollix.

Ron Parr said:

Georg Zechner said:

Now it is a good ide to come up with a new ultra-ultra compact
model. But to give it a 4MP sensor and no zoom- what does that tell
us ? I think that the marketing guys had the last say. I'm curious
how bad the noise is going to be. My 3MP S230 is already quite
useless above ISO 100, now they made a 4MP with (maybe- don't know
that) an even smaller lens....

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Perhaps you don't understand the market. If people are willing to
pay $250 for Sony's 2MP U50, then why not $100 for a lighter camera
with 4MP? It has a similar sensor the Oly C750, which isn't a
fantastic performer, but seems to be more than adequate for
snapshots and a definite step up from 2MP.

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Ron Parr
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Greg

'The camera that is WITH you is the best camera of all!'

This is no joke to Canon's competitors. I'll bet this camera will be selling soon for $299. When I saw this I thought of lots of marketing possibilities, including teenagers/college kids.

This cam is just what I've been looking for. Already have a DSLR, this will replace my Oly Epic. Its small enough, I assume has that Canon photo quality, is fized focal (what I've been looking for), and most importantly has a decent resolution/fast operation combo. the photo quality is just a great perk for me. This will be my point and shoot for any occasion.

Christopher Marshburn said:

This is no joke to Canon's competitors. I'll bet this camera will
be selling soon for $299. When I saw this I thought of lots of
marketing possibilities, including teenagers/college kids.

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Hi,

I think that teenagers/college kids would be more interested in something like S400. Maybe its expensive now but look how fast the prices are going down which means that they would be willing to wait for and buy the S400 after it becomes cheaper rather than buying a smal camera with not so many options. I dont know how Canon position its camera based on smaller size while they already have small sized cameras.

I think that instead of making this camera they should focus on current models they offer like the S45/S50. The design of thhis camera is not changing and they are not willing to change the navigation dial which is so small to use from what i read which can be a case of hit and miss. I think that they wouldn't do that because it would cost them to change the production line. So the customer to them does not always come first.

Any thoughts?

Correct, the customer NEVER comes first in a publicly-held company (nor should they). The #1 priority of a publicly-held corporation is to give a return on their stockholder's investment. The shareholders are #1, the customer is #2. Remember, a block of large shareholders can fire the CEO of a corporation (or decline to renew their contract) if they think that CEO isn't pulling his weight, so you have to keep them happy.

To make those sharehlders happy, the money has to come in.

If the best way to do that was to change their entire product line to disposable 110 cams that sold for 5 dollars each, then that would be the right thing for them to do. Now, that isn't the case, but I hope you see the point.

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MegaPixel20000 said:

customer to them does not always come first.

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Indeed, this type of cam interests me not. I am a large man with large hands, so really tiny devices don't click with me; I have a cell phone that I can completely hide from view in my clenched fist, but my big sausage fingers are always hitting more than one button if I don't use my pinkie to dial. I bought a G3 because (among other reasons) it was just big enough to handle comfortably; many other digicams were just too small.

However, the usual weekly e-mail I got from my young niece today contained a paragraph that raved about this little thing. Specifically, the eyelet, which she claimed would be great for a neck cord, making the cam like a pendant, always handy for snapshots (I told her to get a cord with a thin steel cable inside to frustrate cut and run thieves), as well as the jazzy colors and case styling. She found out about it from a friend that sent her (and many other friends) a blurb and a pic of the cams. It's a fashion accessory, it seems, that takes good snaps, and that's what she and her peers want.

Christopher Marshburn said:

This is no joke to Canon's competitors. I'll bet this camera will
be selling soon for $299. When I saw this I thought of lots of
marketing possibilities, including teenagers/college kids.

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I think you are right about shareholders being number one in the company.
However long term results are more important than short term results.

If they have to change the entire line or make changes in design then I think they have to. Their S series have been running on the same design for a long time and most people need some improvements so instead of investing in a new product line they should invest in making current current and future customers happier. Sooner or later someone will catch up with Canon and they wont be so unresponsive.

They shouldn't hold off new models just to upgrade their current models. Just think about what Canon has done this year alone. With the 10D, 300D and now the SD10, they've got every market covered. The SD10 can be had by all those that want something small and simple, yet still want good quality! This is significantly distinguished from the S400 by size, price and style. If you think those features aren't important, then you're not in the target market. And you can't even compare the Sony sub-compacts which are half the resolution, lower quality and don't offer audio on video clips.

Fred

MegaPixel20000 said:

I think you are right about shareholders being number one in the
company.
However long term results are more important than short term results.
If they have to change the entire line or make changes in design
then I think they have to. Their S series have been running on
the same design for a long time and most people need some
improvements so instead of investing in a new product line they
should invest in making current current and future customers
happier. Sooner or later someone will catch up with Canon and they
wont be so unresponsive.

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