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Pay Facebook to opt out of data used for targeted ads?!?!

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kelpdiver said:
bent christian said:
EULAs are not law. They are an agreement between two private parties. You are going to have to post up the aspects of its EULA that you think Facebook violated. Class action suits are likely, though I don't think Facebook did anything illegal and lawsuits are not proof that they did. If you made the mistake of installing the Facebook app, you approved permissions to allow it access to phone contacts and other data.

In capitalism: Let the "buyer" beware. Use your heads, people.
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breech of contract is a legal matter. Fraud is another.

If you want to differentiate between criminal law and contract law, fine, but that's not the same as 'FB broke no laws.'

Whether or not the Feds will do anything would depend on if Trump believes FB wronged him in any way. If it were an AWS matter, he'd have already raided their building.

Investors, otoh, aren't happy, and not just FB ones. Their actions dragged down the entire tech sector this month. Lots of short term losses.
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I haven't seen any breach of the EULA. You are free to post up tracts from the areas in the agreement you think FB violated. You haven't done that, even on request, so I will chalk this up as another baseless attack.
 
bent christian said:
My comment is certainly relevant. A socialist economy would have strong privacy protections already in place regarding information shared on social media sites. See: Norway, Belguim, Netherlands, and other European nations.
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You make some excellent points.
bent christian said:
https://www.tnp.no/norway/panorama/consumer-council-of-norway-files-a-complaint-against-facebook
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Good for Norway. Most of my relatives (on my husband's side) live in Sweden and Finland. Have visited several times through the years.

Won't comment any further least we go way off-topic.
 
What I find somewhat surprising is so many companies pour millions (billions?) into social media for ads, targeted or not. I hope that they know the big bucks they are spending are really worth it. For me, it is a waste of money. I ignore the ads because I already know the product or have no interest. If it's a video ad that I can't kill in 5 seconds or less, I kill the link because I don't need to watch or see whatever I was search for. I would also never watch broadcast TV without a DVR. Some broadcasts suffer from ad overload.

Greg
 
tcg550 said:
dwalby said:
photosen said:
But the end result for users is the same: stop using FaceBook, today.
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but how will I know, and actually see, what people I know are having for lunch today ? Missing out on that kind of critical information just isn't acceptable.
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If that's all you're seeing on Facebook maybe you need different freinds.

With the exception of an occasional birthday cake I have no idea what my freinds or family are having for lunch.
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google sarcasm.
 
bent christian said:
I haven't seen any breach of the EULA. You are free to post up tracts from the areas in the agreement you think FB violated. You haven't done that, even on request, so I will chalk this up as another baseless attack.
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sorry, Brent. You insist no laws were broken, seems more on you to defend.

I'll just watch the lawsuits fly, and FB settle.
 
kelpdiver said:
bent christian said:
I haven't seen any breach of the EULA. You are free to post up tracts from the areas in the agreement you think FB violated. You haven't done that, even on request, so I will chalk this up as another baseless attack.
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sorry, Brent. You insist no laws were broken, seems more on you to defend.

I'll just watch the lawsuits fly, and FB settle.
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Which laws were broken?
 
bent christian said:
What FB has done in many other countries might be illegal, due to the social welfare laws of those countries. In the U.S., it's just commerce. Business as usual. No laws I am aware of have been broken on the part of FB here, only ((possibly)) third-party actors.
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Regarding socialist countries, the difference is that in the US there are state rights. The separate powers of the Fed and States are outlined in the Constitution. In the case of Facebook some state's laws have apparently been broken. Individuals privacy has been breeched, not to mention some of the mind manipulation that Facebook has admitted. States and individuals have rightfully initiated lawsuits.

When wrongs are so egregious and affect so many people, the Federal government may step in.

Some recent headlines about suits vs FB.

Do privacy laws exist in cyberspace? Illinois joins lawsuit against Facebook, Cambridge Analytica over alleged data breach

Facebook accused of massive fraud in new lawsuit filed by Cook County
 
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kelpdiver said:
bent christian said:
I haven't seen any breach of the EULA. You are free to post up tracts from the areas in the agreement you think FB violated. You haven't done that, even on request, so I will chalk this up as another baseless attack.
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sorry, Brent. You insist no laws were broken, seems more on you to defend.

I'll just watch the lawsuits fly, and FB settle.
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Ha, ha. You want me to prove a negative? No. It's on the person making the accusation to back that accusation up.
 
BigBen08 said:
Nope, I don't do FB.

When Zuckerberg goes to the senate hearing, will he dress up, or appear in his signature t-shirt?
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I'm hoping for a pirate costume. :-)
 
bent christian said:
kelpdiver said:
bent christian said:
I haven't seen any breach of the EULA. You are free to post up tracts from the areas in the agreement you think FB violated. You haven't done that, even on request, so I will chalk this up as another baseless attack.
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sorry, Brent. You insist no laws were broken, seems more on you to defend.

I'll just watch the lawsuits fly, and FB settle.
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Ha, ha. You want me to prove a negative? No. It's on the person making the accusation to back that accusation up.
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It was your assertion. The fact that your claim was no wrong was done doesn't excuse you from the responsibility.

But nonetheless, since it was delivered to me:

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www.sfgate.com

So eat crow. FB made a commitment to the FTC and the People after a prior privacy failure, and has failed them.
 
kelpdiver said:
bent christian said:
kelpdiver said:
bent christian said:
I haven't seen any breach of the EULA. You are free to post up tracts from the areas in the agreement you think FB violated. You haven't done that, even on request, so I will chalk this up as another baseless attack.
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sorry, Brent. You insist no laws were broken, seems more on you to defend.

I'll just watch the lawsuits fly, and FB settle.
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Ha, ha. You want me to prove a negative? No. It's on the person making the accusation to back that accusation up.
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It was your assertion. The fact that your claim was no wrong was done doesn't excuse you from the responsibility.

But nonetheless, since it was delivered to me:

https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Facebook-could-face-record-fines-say-former-FTC-12815939.php

So eat crow. FB made a commitment to the FTC and the People after a prior privacy failure, and has failed them.
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Consent decrees are not laws, either.

You wrote about "leakage of personal data contrary to their stated privacy policies". It's on you to post the "stated privacy policies" that Facebook broke.
 
CAcreeks said:
Just think of all the time we waste here, answering the same damn question about the "best" laptop for Lightroom. Yawn.
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Could we create a moderator bot that would move those posts to Facebook?

That would be a fun project :-)
 
Austinian said:
malch said:
photosen said:
stop using FaceBook, today.
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And then calculate the value of the time you save.
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Plus the aggravation avoided.
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Time you save? Aggravation?

Not sure how you guys are/were/ever using Facebook but I suspect you've never used it or have no will power.

It's really not that hard to only spend a couple minutes a day and I've never experienced any aggravation other than when Facebook changes the layout.
 
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