What does sensor size have to do with DPAF? Especially when the M50 only reads a crop equivalent of around 8.1mp. A Galaxy S8 has DPAF, does 4k at 30 fps and sells for $600.His post is only cherry quoting and misinterpretation, as I already said. There is nothing in this post that prove your point. If there is a thread with a proof instead of empty accusation, please link it.Go back and read the thread Marco was referring to. This was discussed ad nauseum.And which one has DPAF at this price point ?Not that complicated. 4k capable devices are showing up everywhere and at all price points.The image pipeline is a bit more complex than just a processor.If Digic 8 can't do 4k and DPAF then we won't be seeing these two features mated in any APS-C camera anytime soon. If Digic 8 can do this then it is all firmware related and any camera with Digic 8 can provide 4k and DPAF and the M50 is gimped purely for marketing reasons. If Digic 8 isn't up to the task then Canon has a big technical problem on their hands considering the 5D4 uses dual Digic 6 processors which is two generations back.No.CANON: "...With the EOS 5D Mark IV, we do offer 4K video and Dual Pixel CMOS autofocus, so technically it is feasible. But given the position of the M50 in the lineup, we can’t include all of the features available in a product like the 5D IV."butCanon: We have a new EOS mirrorless M50 with 4K video! 4K VIDEO!!!!
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Me: Hey look, Canon intentionally crippled their 4K camera.
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M-Forum: Why are you complaining? It's 4K
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Me: Not really, it's cropped and using it deactivates the DPAF.
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M-Forum: Why can't you accept it. They didn't cripple it & it was overheating with DPAF.
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Me: Because it's not 4K and it's intentionally crippled. They are known to do this.
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M-Forum: Stop complaining. Where's your evidence it was intentional?
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Canon: We could have released the M50 with full 4K with DPAF and it was feasible to do so... but we intentionally crippled the M50 for marketing reasons.
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M-Forum: Hey look, Canon really did cripple their own camera.
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Me: <facepalm>
So, I don't know how you translate "it was not possible" into "Canon intentionally crippled their camera".Canon said:
We’ve optimized the M50 as best we can, and within those parameters, the combination of 4K video and Dual Pixel CMOS autofocus was not possible.
Some people looks to think than cherry pick some part of what Canon said or blatantly misinterpret the message help them to make a point. But it just makes them look stupid or dishonest.
To reassure you, you are far from being alone doing such thing on this thread - forum - DPreview
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TRANSLATION: We crippled the M50 intentionally because it was positioned as an Entry Level Camera.
TRANSLATION: given the price point of the M50, we cannot reproduce the image pipeline of the 5D4.
Otherwise, it is you and Marco and others who repeat ad nauseum your accusation without anything solid to back it up.
oh, and you still do not answer the question : which camera below 1000$ with a sensor at least as large as 1” has DPAF when 4K ?
Where do you not see the beginnings of proof?Where do you see even the beginning of a proof here ? You try to contradict Canon with nothing more than assumptions...Canon gimped the M50 for marketing reasons. Either that or they are technically incompetent. I will go with the gimping. Too many others are providing 4k in lesser devices for Canon to have not done so in a camera sporting their latest and greatest technology. Basic DPAF has not changed since the 70D so I don't buy that it is some massive computational burden for the M50. Besides, why is DPAF a larger burden for video than it is for stills or doing 1080p/60fps video? Especially when codec chips offload most of the compression duties for encoding MP4 video and these chips are dirt cheap to buy in bulk.Plus, it is not the point. You said Canon intentionally crippled the camera. The fact that other manufacturer would have the tech would not prove that canon could have done it for this price but disabled the function.
It is as stupid as saying Sony intentionally crippled the A6000 because the A6300 gain 4K while both has a bionz X...
May be it is the moment to quote some other parts of the interview :
I read a lot of dancing around with words that wasn't definitive one way or the other. It seemed like they were throwing up an intentional smoke screen to me. Besides do you think Canon would tell use at this point that they gimped the M50 for purposes of only product differentiation?Again, they said they don't have the tech at the right price yet.Canon said:
The cost required to introduce [features like 4K] into cameras dictates the kind of features that we can introduce [in products of different classes]
... or they did not want to eat into sales of their cinema line of cameras. How much do you want to bet that the M5 replacement will use the same sensor and image processor as the M50 and do 4k with DPAF?And they also acknowledge that their development schedule is behind the curve because they misjudge 4K usage evolutionCanon said:
Another point is that consumption of 4K footage in terms of devices to view 4K video – the penetration of those devices in the market, and their adoption, was a little faster than we expected.
It is far from "Canon intentionally crippled their camera"