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Ok, I forgot what the non-rangefinders, like EM10, are called.

Anyway ... do you find one style has more advantages than the other?

I'm liking the rangefinder as it makes it easier for me to keep my left (non-dominant) eye on my surroundings. It also makes it easier to use the touchscreen with my eye to the EVF.

Of course it increase the likelyhood that your camera strap will hit you in the eye!
 
Ignoring any hipster cool thing; I personally like the rangefinder evf cameras. Yes it is NOT really a rangefinder; but it does let you keep both eyes open. I have an original Fuji X100 with the OVF/EVF which is more like a real rangefinder. To me, the biggest advantage is that you have situational awareness. You can see what will come into the frame. For street and sports (with long lenses) this is very helpful...
 
HRC2016 said:
Ok, I forgot what the non-rangefinders, like EM10, are called.
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Forgetful? :-D
HRC2016 said:
Anyway ... do you find one style has more advantages than the other?

I'm liking the rangefinder as it makes it easier for me to keep my left (non-dominant) eye on my surroundings. It also makes it easier to use the touchscreen with my eye to the EVF.

Of course it increase the likelyhood that your camera strap will hit you in the eye!
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From the film days, I always liked rangefinders. I had many - a Leica III ( 3 not 3a or b or c), Canon, Konica, Yashica, Minolta etc.

I wish my EP5 had a EVF as I don't consider the F to be a follow-on model.

There is just something about a rangefinder that is difficult to describe.

Allan
 
HRC2016 said:
Ok, I forgot what the non-rangefinders, like EM10, are called.

Anyway ... do you find one style has more advantages than the other?

I'm liking the rangefinder as it makes it easier for me to keep my left (non-dominant) eye on my surroundings. It also makes it easier to use the touchscreen with my eye to the EVF.

Of course it increase the likelyhood that your camera strap will hit you in the eye!
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WhiteBeard said:
First, we should find another way to describe mirrorless cameras as "rangefinders" have little in common with true rangefinders and "SLR-like" have no pentaprism, hence no reason for the hump other than a flash, and even then...

Given that, I'm left-eye dominant and still love the GX8 but I do have the screen shut...
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"Left Side viewfinder" (LSVF) vs. "Central Viewfinder" (CVF). Because we need more acronyms.

And the reason to prefer one to the other is just that: where do you prefer your VF to be? Some are comfortable with it on the left, some with it in the center. It could be handling and usage, or it could be style.

For me, the CVF wins for usability. Despite thinking that Leicas were the coolest looking cameras ever when I was younger.
 
HRC2016 said:
Ok, I forgot what the non-rangefinders, like EM10, are called.

Anyway ... do you find one style has more advantages than the other?

I'm liking the rangefinder as it makes it easier for me to keep my left (non-dominant) eye on my surroundings. It also makes it easier to use the touchscreen with my eye to the EVF.

Of course it increase the likelyhood that your camera strap will hit you in the eye!
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For me, RF is the best form especially when it's attached with small primes, like 17/1.8, 15/1.7 or 20/1.7.. For bigger zoom, DSLR style may be better, ergonomically..
 
Kent Ekasak said:
For me, RF is the best form especially when it's attached with small primes, like 17/1.8, 15/1.7 or 20/1.7.. For bigger zoom, DSLR style may be better, ergonomically..
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You are forgetting the "oh so large" GX8 which works perfectly with long zooms. In some cases, size is an advantage...
 
What's important to me is the overall camera package. Before buying my E-M10 I looked at both the Fuji X series (X-T1 was not yet available) and Sony A6000. The E-PL line was a non-starter because of the need for an external EVF. I might have gone Fuji except for price.

I agree that putting the finder on the left makes it easier to access rear controls. I can't count the number of times my nose has moved the focus point inadvertently.

The biggest advantage of a flat top body for me is the potential for a more compact camera.
 
Using my G80 is like having a third hand, I don't think much everything just seems intuitive. Using my GX7 is completely different it feels like an appendage and is nothing like as intuitive and just doesn't sit as comfortably.
 
HRC2016 said:
Ok, I forgot what the non-rangefinders, like EM10, are called.

Anyway ... do you find one style has more advantages than the other?

I'm liking the rangefinder as it makes it easier for me to keep my left (non-dominant) eye on my surroundings. It also makes it easier to use the touchscreen with my eye to the EVF.

Of course it increase the likelyhood that your camera strap will hit you in the eye!
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jwilliams said:
HRC2016 said:
Ok, I forgot what the non-rangefinders, like EM10, are called.

Anyway ... do you find one style has more advantages than the other?

I'm liking the rangefinder as it makes it easier for me to keep my left (non-dominant) eye on my surroundings. It also makes it easier to use the touchscreen with my eye to the EVF.

Of course it increase the likelyhood that your camera strap will hit you in the eye!

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I believe in science, evolution and light. All opinions are my own. I'm not compensated for any of my posts. Can you honestly say that?
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you at left eye dominant, rangefinders can be somewhat difficult to use.

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Jonathan
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True, but I find that only to be the case if I have the touch screen activated. Most times on my Pen F and even on my E-M1 II I keep the screen turned in. It took a bit of getting used to using the EVF to make SCP changes, but now is second nature.
 
gary0319 said:
jwilliams said:
HRC2016 said:
Ok, I forgot what the non-rangefinders, like EM10, are called.

Anyway ... do you find one style has more advantages than the other?

I'm liking the rangefinder as it makes it easier for me to keep my left (non-dominant) eye on my surroundings. It also makes it easier to use the touchscreen with my eye to the EVF.

Of course it increase the likelyhood that your camera strap will hit you in the eye!
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jwilliams said:
gary0319 said:
jwilliams said:
HRC2016 said:
Ok, I forgot what the non-rangefinders, like EM10, are called.

Anyway ... do you find one style has more advantages than the other?

I'm liking the rangefinder as it makes it easier for me to keep my left (non-dominant) eye on my surroundings. It also makes it easier to use the touchscreen with my eye to the EVF.

Of course it increase the likelyhood that your camera strap will hit you in the eye!

--
I believe in science, evolution and light. All opinions are my own. I'm not compensated for any of my posts. Can you honestly say that?
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you at left eye dominant, rangefinders can be somewhat difficult to use.

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Jonathan
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True, but I find that only to be the case if I have the touch screen activated. Most times on my Pen F and even on my E-M1 II I keep the screen turned in. It took a bit of getting used to using the EVF to make SCP changes, but now is second nature.
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actually tried a RF m43. I used to shoot film RF fairly often. They worked Ok. The Pen F and GX85/GX9 are the only m43 RF cameras I can think of so not a lot of choice really. I would be tempted to try either one if found at a really good price.

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Jonathan
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My first m43 was a GX7 and sold me on mirrorless shooting. The GX9 seems like a good upgrade to the GX7 and I would consider it more "mainstream" than the Pen F which is more of a niche camera......but a dandy, particularly if you shoot a lot of JPEGs, which I do.
 
HRC2016 said:
Ok, I forgot what the non-rangefinders, like EM10, are called.

Anyway ... do you find one style has more advantages than the other?

I'm liking the rangefinder as it makes it easier for me to keep my left (non-dominant) eye on my surroundings. It also makes it easier to use the touchscreen with my eye to the EVF.

Of course it increase the likelyhood that your camera strap will hit you in the eye!
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HRC2016 said:
Ok, I forgot what the non-rangefinders, like EM10, are called.
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I just call my EM10 a camera.
HRC2016 said:
Anyway ... do you find one style has more advantages than the other?

I'm liking the rangefinder as it makes it easier for me to keep my left (non-dominant) eye on my surroundings. It also makes it easier to use the touchscreen with my eye to the EVF.

Of course it increase the likelyhood that your camera strap will hit you in the eye!
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I'm left eye dominant so the centrally located viewfinder works better for me.
HRC2016 said:
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I believe in science, evolution and light. All opinions are my own. I'm not compensated for any of my posts. Can you honestly say that?
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Yes, I can.
 
HRC2016 said:
Ok, I forgot what the non-rangefinders, like EM10, are called.

Anyway ... do you find one style has more advantages than the other?
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With the rangefinder type, I can switch from landscape to portrait mode without having to take off my baseball cap. ;-)

Unfortunately, the ergonomics on Olympus SLR-style cameras are better than with the Pen-F.

Six of one, half dozen of the other...
 
jwilliams said:
HRC2016 said:
Ok, I forgot what the non-rangefinders, like EM10, are called.

Anyway ... do you find one style has more advantages than the other?

I'm liking the rangefinder as it makes it easier for me to keep my left (non-dominant) eye on my surroundings. It also makes it easier to use the touchscreen with my eye to the EVF.

Of course it increase the likelyhood that your camera strap will hit you in the eye!
Click to expand...
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HRC2016 said:
Ok, I forgot what the non-rangefinders, like EM10, are called.

Anyway ... do you find one style has more advantages than the other?

I'm liking the rangefinder as it makes it easier for me to keep my left (non-dominant) eye on my surroundings. It also makes it easier to use the touchscreen with my eye to the EVF.

Of course it increase the likelyhood that your camera strap will hit you in the eye!
Click to expand...
 
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