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I'm color blind (green) and lazy to learn about post processing. I always heard that Fuji cameras give off the best jpg pictures. Is that true? If so, which model you recommend. Going to Japan in April; therefore, will get a system there.
 
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The Fuji X series have their wonderful film simulations, and the X-T20 especially is (in my opinion) the best camera to access them quickly. The X-T20 has nine film simulations, and you can select three film sims for each of the two BKT setting on the top left dial. For each shot you take in BKT mode, the camera will generate three jpegs immediately. So, in practical use, you could set the dial to BKT1, take a shot, and get three jpegs of your first three film sims, then turn the dial to BKT2, take another shot, and get your next three film sims. If you want a RAW file of the scene, quickly turn the dial to "S" and you can get a RAW or RAW + JPEG, depending on your setting for the S setting.

The advantage to this feature is that you...
I've been very happy with the JPGs from the various Fuji cameras that I have. I only shoot in JPG, by the way.

That said, I also like the JPGs that I get from my Nikon D500, but I should mention that I do not generally use that to photograph people; pretty much only animals at the zoo.

If you like the ergonomics and feel of the Fuji, and if the system has the lenses you want, I think you should be happy with the output. I use my Fuji for everything, except when I'm using the Nikon and a long lens for specific purpose. The Fuji is great for general usage, travel, street, people, etc. I think that Fuji has done a nice job of setting up controls and the Q menu that work well for JPG shooters so that you can make adjustments to the camera quickly as you shoot, if you want.
 
Fuji X series
 
baobob said:
Fuji X series

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I think so too ( I have a X-T1, and also a X100 ) but some years ago I had also a Olympus E-M5, and found the jpg very nice too.....

But overall I shot RAW.......

Griddi.......
 
A lot of posts over the years prefer the older Fuji cameras when it comes to JPEGs, but of course that doesn't help you if you plan on buying a new one. However, the JPEG options in-camera are very extensive and are an "art" in their own right. There is even an e-book on the topic (Thomas Fitzgerald)! I don't know how other makes compare in this respect, but Fuji has to be up there with the "best", if not the best.
 
KwhyChang said:
The camera doesn't matter that much.
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Absolutely true. Pretty much EVERY camera today will produce excellent jpgs.
DP13Photo said:
That said, I always liked the jpegs of Olympus and Fuji....pick the model that suits you, not the one that is popular with others.
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For me it would be Panasonic, Nikon and Sony (not necessarily in that order). Fact is, I do not shoot jpg. I only shoot RAW.

For the OP, the bigger issue might be how well AutoWB works in the camera he chooses.
 
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I would not say that Fuji has the best JPEGs but they have maybe the best Auto-WB which is much more important. You don't have to deal with color cast like you would especially with Sony or Nikon.
 
chinolee said:
X-T2 or XT20
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I got the T20 and spend the difference on lenses, but the X-T2 is nice too, depends on your needs. If you get the T20 buy the Fuji grip or an aftermarket...
 
The Fuji X series have their wonderful film simulations, and the X-T20 especially is (in my opinion) the best camera to access them quickly. The X-T20 has nine film simulations, and you can select three film sims for each of the two BKT setting on the top left dial. For each shot you take in BKT mode, the camera will generate three jpegs immediately. So, in practical use, you could set the dial to BKT1, take a shot, and get three jpegs of your first three film sims, then turn the dial to BKT2, take another shot, and get your next three film sims. If you want a RAW file of the scene, quickly turn the dial to "S" and you can get a RAW or RAW + JPEG, depending on your setting for the S setting.

The advantage to this feature is that you can see immediate results of different colour variations with only two shots taken, and then decide if you want to do further post-processing or not. The X-T20 has two BKT settings on the dial, while the X-T2 has one (but still has two BKT settings accessible through the menu instead of immediately on the dial). It is my understanding that the X-T2 can generate a RAW + JPEG in film sim mode, but the X-T20 can't.

I frequently use the film sims; I will often take three film sims in BKT1, three DR brackets in BKT2, then one shot in S for a RAW (RAF) if I want to pp the scene later.

Anyway, hopefully that explains what I think might be an advantage in your situation: the X-T20 offers the fastest way to acquire up to 6 different colour jpegs of a scene with a minimum of time and shots taken. Now I've written too much for a Saturday morning and am going to shovel the snow out of my driveway. :-)
 
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chinolee said:
I'm color blind (green) and lazy to learn about post processing. I always heard that Fuji cameras give off the best jpg pictures. Is that true? If so, which model you recommend. Going to Japan in April; therefore, will get a system there.
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A double blind test conducted by The Camera Store a couple years back and judged by various imaging professionals concluded that Nikon had the best default JPEG output, closely followed by Canon. Fuji was middle of the pack, at best.
 
FingerPainter said:
chinolee said:
I'm color blind (green) and lazy to learn about post processing. I always heard that Fuji cameras give off the best jpg pictures. Is that true? If so, which model you recommend. Going to Japan in April; therefore, will get a system there.
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A double blind test conducted by The Camera Store a couple years back and judged by various imaging professionals concluded that Nikon had the best default JPEG output, closely followed by Canon. Fuji was middle of the pack, at best.
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However I didn't trust their methodology. Sample size (pictures compared) was small, and their audience was too few to be statistically significant. As I recall they compared only 5-6 images.
 
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FingerPainter said:
chinolee said:
I'm color blind (green) and lazy to learn about post processing. I always heard that Fuji cameras give off the best jpg pictures. Is that true? If so, which model you recommend. Going to Japan in April; therefore, will get a system there.
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A double blind test conducted by The Camera Store a couple years back and judged by various imaging professionals concluded that Nikon had the best default JPEG output, closely followed by Canon. Fuji was middle of the pack, at best.
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However I didn't trust their methodology. Sample size (pictures compared) was small, and their audience was too few to be statistically significant. As I recall they compared only 5-6 images.
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Sample size is an issue if the selection is being made randomly. That wasn't the case in their test, either with regard to the images being used or to the people doing the evaluation.

Have you got a counter-example of a test that you think is more reliable? (Don't bother o nominate anything where the different cameras didn't shoot the same scene under the same conditions or where the evaluation of images wasn't done blinded.)
 
FingerPainter said:
chinolee said:
I'm color blind (green) and lazy to learn about post processing. I always heard that Fuji cameras give off the best jpg pictures. Is that true? If so, which model you recommend. Going to Japan in April; therefore, will get a system there.
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A double blind test conducted by The Camera Store a couple years back and judged by various imaging professionals concluded that Nikon had the best default JPEG output, closely followed by Canon. Fuji was middle of the pack, at best.
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I think the clue here is "imaging professionals"...they would have been using Nikon and Canon cameras. So what's my point...it's that we get used to a certain look and that influences our preferences. Same with Fuji users. I'd be more convinced if it were random members of the public.
 
FingerPainter said:
FingerPainter said:
FingerPainter said:
A double blind test conducted by The Camera Store a couple years back and judged by various imaging professionals concluded that Nikon had the best default JPEG output, closely followed by Canon. Fuji was middle of the pack, at best.
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However I didn't trust their methodology. Sample size (pictures compared) was small, and their audience was too few to be statistically significant. As I recall they compared only 5-6 images.
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Sample size is an issue if the selection is being made randomly. That wasn't the case in their test, either with regard to the images being used or to the people doing the evaluation.

Have you got a counter-example of a test that you think is more reliable? (Don't bother o nominate anything where the different cameras didn't shoot the same scene under the same conditions or where the evaluation of images wasn't done blinded.)
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No, I don't have anything better to offer.

I do recall that the baby picture (?) with Nikon (?) had objectionable reddish cast, to my eyes, so I'm surprised it was the winner.

There are additional issues in JPEG quality besides subjective "I like it" responses. For example, is the JPEG in standard format so editors and viewers can read it without errors (Olympus sometimes fails here), are the colors easy to edit or do they fall apart from JPEG re-artifacting when changed (Panasonic is awful here) and are details missing, such as tree branches against a bright background (Canon is bad here).

Hmm... Nikon wins again!
 
X-Pro1 and X-E1 seem have to me the most pleasant jpg-colors OOC... AutoWB...
 
chinolee said:
I'm color blind (green) and lazy to learn about post processing. I always heard that Fuji cameras give off the best jpg pictures. Is that true? If so, which model you recommend. Going to Japan in April; therefore, will get a system there.
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easy question. The best jpegs on any Fuji X camera are on the original X-100 Classic

and close behind are the X-A1 and X-A2.
 
Davidgilmour said:
chinolee said:
I'm color blind (green) and lazy to learn about post processing. I always heard that Fuji cameras give off the best jpg pictures. Is that true? If so, which model you recommend. Going to Japan in April; therefore, will get a system there.
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easy question. The best jpegs on any Fuji X camera are on the original X-100 Classic

and close behind are the X-A1 and X-A2.
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I cannot say about the X-A1 or the X-A2 because I don't own these camera's, but I agree absolute , as I still have the X-100, about the best JPEG'S.......

I also have the X-T1, am happy with it, but just recently I used the X100 and the X-T1 for the same motives, at the same time, and the images from the X100 came out just a bit colourwise better.......

Griddi.......
 
griddi said:
Davidgilmour said:
chinolee said:
I'm color blind (green) and lazy to learn about post processing. I always heard that Fuji cameras give off the best jpg pictures. Is that true? If so, which model you recommend. Going to Japan in April; therefore, will get a system there.
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easy question. The best jpegs on any Fuji X camera are on the original X-100 Classic

and close behind are the X-A1 and X-A2.
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I cannot say about the X-A1 or the X-A2 because I don't own these camera's, but I agree absolute , as I still have the X-100, about the best JPEG'S.......

I also have the X-T1, am happy with it, but just recently I used the X100 and the X-T1 for the same motives, at the same time, and the images from the X100 came out just a bit colourwise better.......
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Unfortunately, I have to agree.

I used an X100 1st generation for 5 1/2 years, then I decided to upgrade straight to the X100F.

The X100F is a much better camera, very refined, fast autofocus, many nice feature such as in-camera charging, better battery meter, exposure preview etc. They also modified the internal processing or perhaps added some filters, so the lens does not flare as much.

However, I am still struggling to recover the colors of the X100 1st generation (I am only talking about OOC Jpegs). I find the output of the X100F too perfect, a bit clinical. The X100 actually does not deliver natural colors, but really nice and appealing summer colors!

So what did I do? I sold my X100F ! and bought a new old X100.

So back to square one. Call me crazy...
 
allineedislight said:
griddi said:
Davidgilmour said:
chinolee said:
I'm color blind (green) and lazy to learn about post processing. I always heard that Fuji cameras give off the best jpg pictures. Is that true? If so, which model you recommend. Going to Japan in April; therefore, will get a system there.
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easy question. The best jpegs on any Fuji X camera are on the original X-100 Classic

and close behind are the X-A1 and X-A2.
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I cannot say about the X-A1 or the X-A2 because I don't own these camera's, but I agree absolute , as I still have the X-100, about the best JPEG'S.......

I also have the X-T1, am happy with it, but just recently I used the X100 and the X-T1 for the same motives, at the same time, and the images from the X100 came out just a bit colourwise better.......
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Unfortunately, I have to agree.

I used an X100 1st generation for 5 1/2 years, then I decided to upgrade straight to the X100F.

The X100F is a much better camera, very refined, fast autofocus, many nice feature such as in-camera charging, better battery meter, exposure preview etc. They also modified the internal processing or perhaps added some filters, so the lens does not flare as much.

However, I am still struggling to recover the colors of the X100 1st generation (I am only talking about OOC Jpegs). I find the output of the X100F too perfect, a bit clinical. The X100 actually does not deliver natural colors, but really nice and appealing summer colors!

So what did I do? I sold my X100F ! and bought a new old X100.

So back to square one. Call me crazy...
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:-D:-D.....Well, you could not have bought a X100 from me, as I will never sell the X100.....

I agree about non natural colors, but they are very nice anyway, also I always shot JPEG and RAW.....so I can adjust anyway........

Griddi.....
 
FingerPainter said:
chinolee said:
I'm color blind (green) and lazy to learn about post processing. I always heard that Fuji cameras give off the best jpg pictures. Is that true? If so, which model you recommend. Going to Japan in April; therefore, will get a system there.
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A double blind test conducted by The Camera Store a couple years back and judged by various imaging professionals concluded that Nikon had the best default JPEG output, closely followed by Canon. Fuji was middle of the pack, at best.
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I watched the YouTube video for that test quite a while back, and I thought the biggest weakness was the images used. I didn't think they provided a very good test. Aside from that though, so much is of it is personal taste that it's almost impossible to do a reliable ranking of brands. It's better to look at images online and see which cameras produce the jpegs you like best.

I'm a jpeg shooter and have owned Canon, Nikon, and Panasonic point and shoots. The Canon and Panasonic were great. I hated the Nikon jpegs and ditched the camera in less than 6 months, but that was in 2006 so can't be used for an evaluation today. My X-T20 is my first digital ILC and I'm pleased with the results. It's easy to adjust how saturated and contrasty photos are just by picking a different sim to suit differences in personal taste.
 
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