About that 4k in the M50

I noted it's the MP4 (h264 codec).

Good chance DPR is right and future models that sport 4k, will be both MP4 (not MJPEG), and, I don't see why they can't do DPAF. The latter would appear to be a clear neutering of the video, which makes some sense as DPAF is a very Canon tech, and a coveted one at that for video. Keeping 4k and DPAF away from each other on an entry level model is logical. It also shows it's intentional, not a technical deficiency. Interesting.
Think of a computer that has two powerful programs on it. Independently they can run smoothly. Run them together and the computer crashes. If you want to run them together, your only option is to buy a more expensive computer with a bigger processor.

When recording video there are two main programs that are running. One of them is the autofocus and the second one captures the images from the sensor and records it to the SD card. This is how DPAF works: (from Canon's web site)
That's how it worked in former 4k implementation, literally with MJPEG being a motion JPEG codec, where both were done "on-DIGIC"
Each pixel on the CMOS imaging sensor has two separate, light-sensitive photodiodes, which convert light into an electronic signal. Independently, each half of a pixel detects light through separate micro lenses, atop each pixel. During AF detection, the two halves of each pixel -- the two photodiodes -- send separate signals, which are analyzed for focus information. Then, an instant later when an actual image or video frame is recorded, the two separate signals from each pixel are combined into one single one, for image capturing purposes. This greatly improves AF speed over the majority of the area on which you’re focusing. The result is phase-detection autofocus, which surveys the scene and recognizes not only whether a subject is in focus or not, but in which direction (near or far), and by how much.

That sound to me like a program that is CPU intensive.
It is; that many frames per second in just JPEG, forget h264, is messy.
When recording 4K video the camera's processor has to capture and process twice the amount of data then 1080p. That sounds to me like anther CPU intensive program.

Combine these programs together and you need a bigger and faster processor. To expect that any camera manufacturer can provide 4K with good AF for under $1000 is totally unrealistic. People point out Sony. Personally I do not trust Sony. They really push the limits of their camera's processor. Both the Sony a6000 and a6300 had overheating problems. The a6500 was released six months later to solve the problems of the a6300 with an increase in price. The Sony A9 also has overheating problems. There is a reason why the battery life sucked on Sony cameras (the A73 and A9 appear to be better). Extra power is needed to cool the processors. Image resourcing did a rain simulation test in which the A7R3 failed badly. Sony does not properly weather seal the bottom part of their cameras. Weather sealing keeps the water out of the camera, but also keeps the heat in. They skip corners to pack a lot of features. Everybody keeps talking about how great of a video cameras Panasonic makes. But guess what. AF in 4K sucks as well. But it is better in 1080p. Why?
What's obviously happened like our cellphone maker counterparts, is with the advent of h264 4k in the M50, at 25fps at that, that's too much heat to brute force on DIGIC; they've obviously adopted a licensed h264 transcoder chip like everyone else and bit the bullet. Now heat is only an issue on sensor readout, not CPU-side, which limiting to a 1.6x crop does help as that's alot of data you're still pulling off the sensor at 25FPS. Cropping it, puts you on a similar playing field to a smaller sensor that's doing 4k, like say a Sony RX100.

DPAF works in 1080, and in stills, this is a DPAF sensor, still.

Firing just one side and not the other, is not buying you anything here.

The way DPAF works is the right and left cells fire concurrently during capture, thus it's a 24MP readout, but really twice as many pixels actually exist then necessary to produce that 24MP readout, hence the 5DSR has that pixel shift option on RAWs.

Mind you, the 1DX II, and 5DIV can already do DPAF + 4k, on a much older DIGIC, that is already brute forcing and doing DPAF calculations at the same time. I don't buy it.

I know what you're saying, but you're smart enough to know what I'm saying too, I gather.

You're saying heat is still an issue, I'm saying, with h264 support, they've moved away from brute force, which is a 10x drop in cpu "cost". Now the sensor, whole different ball game, hence the crop makes some sense.
 
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While you might be correct, none of the published specifications talk about a second processor eg the image processor is a 6+, there is no similar comment in autofocus area.
 
I agree with many posts here. Not implementing DPAF on the camera in 4k I think is a mistake. That is the one thing that Canon has that trumps the competition. Even if the 4k is of less quality I am sure the DPAF could sway people their way. Make improvements to 4k in higher end models in other areas like frame rates, clog, etc... Don't cutout what people love about your cameras.

I know it is more of an entry level camera and I have been looking for something smaller to use as a walk around to complement my 80D. This won't be it so will wait for another M camera or possibly MFT. Video currently isn't really important to me, but if I want 4k with poor AF then there are much better options IMO.
 
I keep reading that this camera is aimed at vloggers. Why on earth would vloggers want/need to shoot in 4K? Most people view vlogs on laptops, tablets, or, predominantly, phones. The amount of hysterical whining about this feature in an entry-level camera is both hilarious and depressing.
Didn't know much about vlogging, so looked it up.

G7X and G7XII seems to be the most popular vlogging cameras. These are also the cameras used by most of the famous vloggers. PewDiePie is the most popular vlogger of all with 61 million followers in Youtube. He uses G7X. A lot of them uses ILC in addition to P&S, 70D and 80D seems to be the most popular among them, lesser number of vloggers use Sony or Panasonic ILC. It seems that DPAF is important for some vloggers, but 4K isn't. So, I suspect M50 has the potential to be a very popular vlogging camera.

A typical vlog:

 
I keep reading that this camera is aimed at vloggers. Why on earth would vloggers want/need to shoot in 4K? Most people view vlogs on laptops, tablets, or, predominantly, phones. The amount of hysterical whining about this feature in an entry-level camera is both hilarious and depressing.
Didn't know much about vlogging, so looked it up.

G7X and G7XII seems to be the most popular vlogging cameras. These are also the cameras used by most of the famous vloggers. PewDiePie is the most popular vlogger of all with 61 million followers in Youtube. He uses G7X. A lot of them uses ILC in addition to P&S, 70D and 80D seems to be the most popular among them, lesser number of vloggers use Sony or Panasonic ILC. It seems that DPAF is important for some vloggers, but 4K isn't. So, I suspect M50 has the potential to be a very popular vlogging camera.

A typical vlog:

 
I keep reading that this camera is aimed at vloggers. Why on earth would vloggers want/need to shoot in 4K? Most people view vlogs on laptops, tablets, or, predominantly, phones. The amount of hysterical whining about this feature in an entry-level camera is both hilarious and depressing.
Didn't know much about vlogging, so looked it up.

G7X and G7XII seems to be the most popular vlogging cameras. These are also the cameras used by most of the famous vloggers. PewDiePie is the most popular vlogger of all with 61 million followers in Youtube. He uses G7X. A lot of them uses ILC in addition to P&S, 70D and 80D seems to be the most popular among them, lesser number of vloggers use Sony or Panasonic ILC. It seems that DPAF is important for some vloggers, but 4K isn't. So, I suspect M50 has the potential to be a very popular vlogging camera.

A typical vlog:

 
I keep reading that this camera is aimed at vloggers. Why on earth would vloggers want/need to shoot in 4K? Most people view vlogs on laptops, tablets, or, predominantly, phones. The amount of hysterical whining about this feature in an entry-level camera is both hilarious and depressing.
Didn't know much about vlogging, so looked it up.

G7X and G7XII seems to be the most popular vlogging cameras. These are also the cameras used by most of the famous vloggers. PewDiePie is the most popular vlogger of all with 61 million followers in Youtube. He uses G7X. A lot of them uses ILC in addition to P&S, 70D and 80D seems to be the most popular among them, lesser number of vloggers use Sony or Panasonic ILC. It seems that DPAF is important for some vloggers, but 4K isn't. So, I suspect M50 has the potential to be a very popular vlogging camera.

A typical vlog:

 
Thank you for the link. I wonder where they got that information from, it isn't on the Canon Au site details and specifications page or any other websites I have looked at including dpreview.
 
Thank you for the link. I wonder where they got that information from, it isn't on the Canon Au site details and specifications page or any other websites I have looked at including dpreview.
One would think Canon would be touting it as a marketing item.
 
On the plus side, the renowned 11-22 is of good use here as it makes it an effective 28mm in 4k. Contrast detect is a bummer, but, truth told it largely matches the competition in that AF is jerky in video, contrast detect or some other form of phase detection, it's DPAF that makes that nice smooth AF in video, which I suspect is coming to (future) higher end models.
yeah, but after that 4K leaking hype, it's very disappointing. Same ole - we have to wait - tic tic tic.... I don't know the competition at all, but I don't understand why giving up dpaf autofocus for 4K capture is even acceptable... and the 1.6x additional crop is painful too, but follows in the wake of other top end Canon video options. Yuck. I did see the front page here is hyping a new 24mp Sony A7iii... ;-)
 
On the plus side, the renowned 11-22 is of good use here as it makes it an effective 28mm in 4k. Contrast detect is a bummer, but, truth told it largely matches the competition in that AF is jerky in video, contrast detect or some other form of phase detection, it's DPAF that makes that nice smooth AF in video, which I suspect is coming to (future) higher end models.
yeah, but after that 4K leaking hype, it's very disappointing. Same ole - we have to wait - tic tic tic.... I don't know the competition at all, but I don't understand why giving up dpaf autofocus for 4K capture is even acceptable... and the 1.6x additional crop is painful too, but follows in the wake of other top end Canon video options. Yuck. I did see the front page here is hyping a new 24mp Sony A7iii... ;-)
I could forgive the crop factor and the 24 fps limitations. I can't forgive the lack of DPAF for 4k. In fact, it never crossed my mind that Canon would leave this out for recording 4k. I was blind sided by this dirty, underhanded move by Canon. I didn't think even they would stoop this low to gimp a camera.

However, look at the bright side. Your long zoom lenses will benefit from a 2.56 crop factor giving the EF-M 50-200mm an effective reach of 512mm when recording 4k. :-|
 
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pyla wrote: To expect that any camera manufacturer can provide 4K with good AF for under $1000 is totally unrealistic.
If Canon couldn't do 4K with good AF in the M50, then they shouldn't have done 4K at all. DPAF is a "signature feature" of Canon cameras, and not having it available with 4K just makes them look bad.
Canon is damned if they do, damned if they don't. If they did not provide 4K people would be bitching and complaining about not having 4K, like they have with every other single camera canon has released. I do not think having both on a small processor is feasible. But there are people that want to believe that it is possible because they are spoiled. They want to believe Canon does not want to do it because they are so mean.

If I were to buy that camera (which I am not) I would shoot 1080p with DPAF. If I were to shoot 4K it would be a landscape scene with a small aperture to have a greater depth of field. This way focus does not matter.
What Canon has done is provide about the worst 4k capability it could in a camera at any price, let alone one priced at $780. Name an ILC camera near this price range that has worse 4k, or even on par with it, than it does.
Nikon cameras.
 
I noted it's the MP4 (h264 codec).

Good chance DPR is right and future models that sport 4k, will be both MP4 (not MJPEG), and, I don't see why they can't do DPAF. The latter would appear to be a clear neutering of the video, which makes some sense as DPAF is a very Canon tech, and a coveted one at that for video. Keeping 4k and DPAF away from each other on an entry level model is logical. It also shows it's intentional, not a technical deficiency. Interesting.
Think of a computer that has two powerful programs on it. Independently they can run smoothly. Run them together and the computer crashes. If you want to run them together, your only option is to buy a more expensive computer with a bigger processor.

When recording video there are two main programs that are running. One of them is the autofocus and the second one captures the images from the sensor and records it to the SD card. This is how DPAF works: (from Canon's web site)

Each pixel on the CMOS imaging sensor has two separate, light-sensitive photodiodes, which convert light into an electronic signal. Independently, each half of a pixel detects light through separate micro lenses, atop each pixel. During AF detection, the two halves of each pixel -- the two photodiodes -- send separate signals, which are analyzed for focus information. Then, an instant later when an actual image or video frame is recorded, the two separate signals from each pixel are combined into one single one, for image capturing purposes. This greatly improves AF speed over the majority of the area on which you’re focusing. The result is phase-detection autofocus, which surveys the scene and recognizes not only whether a subject is in focus or not, but in which direction (near or far), and by how much.

That sound to me like a program that is CPU intensive.

When recording 4K video the camera's processor has to capture and process twice the amount of data then 1080p. That sounds to me like anther CPU intensive program.

Combine these programs together and you need a bigger and faster processor. To expect that any camera manufacturer can provide 4K with good AF for under $1000 is totally unrealistic. People point out Sony. Personally I do not trust Sony. They really push the limits of their camera's processor. Both the Sony a6000 and a6300 had overheating problems. The a6500 was released six months later to solve the problems of the a6300 with an increase in price. The Sony A9 also has overheating problems. There is a reason why the battery life sucked on Sony cameras (the A73 and A9 appear to be better). Extra power is needed to cool the processors. Image resourcing did a rain simulation test in which the A7R3 failed badly. Sony does not properly weather seal the bottom part of their cameras. Weather sealing keeps the water out of the camera, but also keeps the heat in. They skip corners to pack a lot of features. Everybody keeps talking about how great of a video cameras Panasonic makes. But guess what. AF in 4K sucks as well. But it is better in 1080p. Why?
The fly in your ointment is that the 5D4 is doing 4k at 60 fps with two processors that are two generations behind Digic 8.
They also have MJPEG which is not compressed.
 
I noted it's the MP4 (h264 codec).

Good chance DPR is right and future models that sport 4k, will be both MP4 (not MJPEG), and, I don't see why they can't do DPAF. The latter would appear to be a clear neutering of the video, which makes some sense as DPAF is a very Canon tech, and a coveted one at that for video. Keeping 4k and DPAF away from each other on an entry level model is logical. It also shows it's intentional, not a technical deficiency. Interesting.
Think of a computer that has two powerful programs on it. Independently they can run smoothly. Run them together and the computer crashes. If you want to run them together, your only option is to buy a more expensive computer with a bigger processor.

When recording video there are two main programs that are running. One of them is the autofocus and the second one captures the images from the sensor and records it to the SD card. This is how DPAF works: (from Canon's web site)

Each pixel on the CMOS imaging sensor has two separate, light-sensitive photodiodes, which convert light into an electronic signal. Independently, each half of a pixel detects light through separate micro lenses, atop each pixel. During AF detection, the two halves of each pixel -- the two photodiodes -- send separate signals, which are analyzed for focus information. Then, an instant later when an actual image or video frame is recorded, the two separate signals from each pixel are combined into one single one, for image capturing purposes. This greatly improves AF speed over the majority of the area on which you’re focusing. The result is phase-detection autofocus, which surveys the scene and recognizes not only whether a subject is in focus or not, but in which direction (near or far), and by how much.

That sound to me like a program that is CPU intensive.

When recording 4K video the camera's processor has to capture and process twice the amount of data then 1080p. That sounds to me like anther CPU intensive program.

Combine these programs together and you need a bigger and faster processor. To expect that any camera manufacturer can provide 4K with good AF for under $1000 is totally unrealistic. People point out Sony. Personally I do not trust Sony. They really push the limits of their camera's processor. Both the Sony a6000 and a6300 had overheating problems. The a6500 was released six months later to solve the problems of the a6300 with an increase in price. The Sony A9 also has overheating problems. There is a reason why the battery life sucked on Sony cameras (the A73 and A9 appear to be better). Extra power is needed to cool the processors. Image resourcing did a rain simulation test in which the A7R3 failed badly. Sony does not properly weather seal the bottom part of their cameras. Weather sealing keeps the water out of the camera, but also keeps the heat in. They skip corners to pack a lot of features. Everybody keeps talking about how great of a video cameras Panasonic makes. But guess what. AF in 4K sucks as well. But it is better in 1080p. Why?
The fly in your ointment is that the 5D4 is doing 4k at 60 fps with two processors that are two generations behind Digic 8.
They also have MJPEG which is not compressed.
... and the M50 is likely using a dedicated h.264 compression chip, is doing a cropped readout and at 24 fps while having a processor two generations ahead of the 5D4.
 
pyla wrote: To expect that any camera manufacturer can provide 4K with good AF for under $1000 is totally unrealistic.
If Canon couldn't do 4K with good AF in the M50, then they shouldn't have done 4K at all. DPAF is a "signature feature" of Canon cameras, and not having it available with 4K just makes them look bad.
Canon is damned if they do, damned if they don't. If they did not provide 4K people would be bitching and complaining about not having 4K, like they have with every other single camera canon has released. I do not think having both on a small processor is feasible. But there are people that want to believe that it is possible because they are spoiled. They want to believe Canon does not want to do it because they are so mean.

If I were to buy that camera (which I am not) I would shoot 1080p with DPAF. If I were to shoot 4K it would be a landscape scene with a small aperture to have a greater depth of field. This way focus does not matter.
What Canon has done is provide about the worst 4k capability it could in a camera at any price, let alone one priced at $780. Name an ILC camera near this price range that has worse 4k, or even on par with it, than it does.
Nikon cameras.
I would take the Nikon AF when recording 4k over what Canon has provided any day based on the 4k video samples from the M50 I watched today.
 
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The fly in your ointment is that the 5D4 is doing 4k at 60 fps with two processors that are two generations behind Digic 8.
The M50 is the first Canon camera to offer 4K in h264. This is a compression format it is extremely computationally intensive versus motion jpeg, which the 5D4 uses. Motion jpeg uses 100% i-frames with no GOP compression. It's downside is it's files are 5x bigger than h264.

Sony aps-c 4K (such as in A6300) is actually 6K that is then downsampled (which is why it's so sharp and clean) It also means they don't have to crop the sensor. Clearly the M50 does not have to computation power to oversample the video (use the full sensor pixel read out) so they introduced a crop. There is no logical reason to introduce a crop (product differentiation) as the M50 is aimed at vloggers (it has a mic socket) and the crop limits the vlogging ability. Samuel C explained this earlier.
I am not buying it. At this point Canon should have a Digic processor that can handle 4k with DPAF at a paltry 25 fps. Also, the AF demand on the processor is not higher between 2k and 4k. The added compression overhead isn't that demanding. It is being done in devices with much lower cost. Also, the fact they are using a direct crop frees up a lot of computation power from doing a full readout. Canon doesn't get a pass on this one from me.
On an APSC body? Really which one? Smaller sensors are cheaper to produce, so they can afford to spend more money on a processor. I do not have a Panasonic camera. But I have seen videos where the AF in 4K is lacking. People then write in the comment section, you have to try this setting, with this setting and this setting. These settings are to guide the camera's algorithm so less computational power is needed. But even then, when follow up videos are done with those settings, it is still lacking. Of course all of these settings do not make it user friendly. While Canon has a reputation for its good ergonomics.

As for your claim that the additional computational power between 1080p and 4K is minimal. Are you saying that the processor can process double the amount of data that needs to be recorded without any problems? Computers need a lot more computational power to edit 4k video vs 1080p, but to record it, it does not? That is an odd way of thinking. There are many vloggers who prefer1080p because they say their work flow goes a lot smoother. Their experience is that 4k does need more computation power.

But if you do not buy it, no one is forcing you to to buy my explanation. Go right ahead and think that the CEOs of Canon are stupid. Go and buy a Sony with their expensive lenses.
 
pyla wrote: To expect that any camera manufacturer can provide 4K with good AF for under $1000 is totally unrealistic.
If Canon couldn't do 4K with good AF in the M50, then they shouldn't have done 4K at all. DPAF is a "signature feature" of Canon cameras, and not having it available with 4K just makes them look bad.
Canon is damned if they do, damned if they don't. If they did not provide 4K people would be bitching and complaining about not having 4K, like they have with every other single camera canon has released. I do not think having both on a small processor is feasible. But there are people that want to believe that it is possible because they are spoiled. They want to believe Canon does not want to do it because they are so mean.

If I were to buy that camera (which I am not) I would shoot 1080p with DPAF. If I were to shoot 4K it would be a landscape scene with a small aperture to have a greater depth of field. This way focus does not matter.
What Canon has done is provide about the worst 4k capability it could in a camera at any price, let alone one priced at $780. Name an ILC camera near this price range that has worse 4k, or even on par with it, than it does.
Nikon cameras.
I would take the Nikon AF when recording 4k over what Canon has provided any day based on the 4k video samples from the M50 I watched today.
Then you will be the only one. Even Nikon users say that the video capabilities of Nikon suck even at 1080p
 
On an APSC body? Really which one? Smaller sensors are cheaper to produce, so they can afford to spend more money on a processor.
That´s bad strategy to pick an argument. Mobile phone processors are now more expensive than most mobile phone camera modules.

On the other hand, with dedicated cameras with large sensors, the processor has good possibility to be significantly cheaper. Like, $25 processors now can handle 4K....
I do not have a Panasonic camera. But I have seen videos where the AF in 4K is lacking. People then write in the comment section, you have to try this setting, with this setting and this setting. These settings are to guide the camera's algorithm so less computational power is needed. But even then, when follow up videos are done with those settings, it is still lacking. Of course all of these settings do not make it user friendly. While Canon has a reputation for its good ergonomics.
That´s an excellent point. Made me stay with Canon too...
As for your claim that the additional computational power between 1080p and 4K is minimal. Are you saying that the processor can process double the amount of data that needs to be recorded without any problems?
It should in the class and situation, with ease. Not that it does.

But if not, here we go back to firing some Canon engineers.

It´s utter shame and incompetence, if your camera processor cannot do it these days, really. There might be some price reasons, but maan, I wouldn´t be an engineer in a company which does this. I´d quit that job. That´s how little sense makes what Canon does here.
Computers need a lot more computational power to edit 4k video vs 1080p,
but to record it, it does not?That is an odd way of thinking.
It is really not. :-)

You don´t need to have that much horse power to dump out some data on your memory card. But you do, when you need to load the file into the RAM, and alter each byte while you´re at it, and at the same time, do the storage again, or hold the output in your RAM/SWAP the whole time. It stacks up like crazy.
There are many vloggers who prefer1080p because they say their work flow goes a lot smoother. Their experience is that 4k does need more computation power.
Sure.
But if you do not buy it, no one is forcing you to to buy my explanation. Go right ahead and think that the CEOs of Canon are stupid. Go and buy a Sony with their expensive lenses.
Noone is stupid. There must be more to it. I guess it´s combined with the sensor.

They still cannot cope with the heat, and they´re Canon: Milking the product for some (segmentation and protectionism) reason.
 
The fly in your ointment is that the 5D4 is doing 4k at 60 fps with two processors that are two generations behind Digic 8.
The M50 is the first Canon camera to offer 4K in h264. This is a compression format it is extremely computationally intensive versus motion jpeg, which the 5D4 uses. Motion jpeg uses 100% i-frames with no GOP compression. It's downside is it's files are 5x bigger than h264.

Sony aps-c 4K (such as in A6300) is actually 6K that is then downsampled (which is why it's so sharp and clean) It also means they don't have to crop the sensor. Clearly the M50 does not have to computation power to oversample the video (use the full sensor pixel read out) so they introduced a crop. There is no logical reason to introduce a crop (product differentiation) as the M50 is aimed at vloggers (it has a mic socket) and the crop limits the vlogging ability. Samuel C explained this earlier.
I am not buying it. At this point Canon should have a Digic processor that can handle 4k with DPAF at a paltry 25 fps. Also, the AF demand on the processor is not higher between 2k and 4k. The added compression overhead isn't that demanding. It is being done in devices with much lower cost. Also, the fact they are using a direct crop frees up a lot of computation power from doing a full readout. Canon doesn't get a pass on this one from me.
On an APSC body? Really which one? Smaller sensors are cheaper to produce, so they can afford to spend more money on a processor. I do not have a Panasonic camera. But I have seen videos where the AF in 4K is lacking. People then write in the comment section, you have to try this setting, with this setting and this setting. These settings are to guide the camera's algorithm so less computational power is needed. But even then, when follow up videos are done with those settings, it is still lacking. Of course all of these settings do not make it user friendly. While Canon has a reputation for its good ergonomics.

As for your claim that the additional computational power between 1080p and 4K is minimal. Are you saying that the processor can process double the amount of data that needs to be recorded without any problems? Computers need a lot more computational power to edit 4k video vs 1080p, but to record it, it does not? That is an odd way of thinking. There are many vloggers who prefer1080p because they say their work flow goes a lot smoother. Their experience is that 4k does need more computation power.
The AF load for DPAF is the same no matter if the recording resolution is HD, FHD or UHD. The same number of pixels are in play no matter what resolution is being used. The data throughput for recording the image varies but AF overhead is constant.

When I see the multitude of 4k capable video devices to be had for $100-$200 that record in 4k at up to 30 fps using the h.264 codec I wonder how Canon would have such a problem handling compression. These cameras aren't sporting a Digic 8 processor. Compression chips for the h.264 codec are everywhere these days and in dirt cheap devices.
But if you do not buy it, no one is forcing you to to buy my explanation. Go right ahead and think that the CEOs of Canon are stupid. Go and buy a Sony with their expensive lenses.
Where did I say they are stupid? I said I don't buy the reasoning of massive technical issues for not providing 4k at 24 fps along with DPAF. Stupidity doesn't have to be the reason they are keeping this ability from us in their consumer grade cameras. Heat from the sensor isn't an issue either as they have a 30 minute recording time for 4k in the M50. So what is keeping them from offering 4k with DPAF from a technical aspect?
 
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