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The New Godox/Flashpoint XPro-S Trigger Is Fantastic
That's good to know. I just got the new transmitter and the Flashpoint XPLOR 600PRO. I haven't tested it much, but triggering is not consistent using EFCS. I guess I need to turn that off.
WRT TTL, call me old fashioned, but I have never cottoned to TTL when shooting with more than one head. I don't care how well it works. It's giving up control to the machine for, IMHO (and the way I work) no benefit at all.
Jim
I see that, but I can't believe that just because the newest strobe isn't listed, it's not compatible. It came out after the trigger, so it may not have made the manual. I don't think that Godox would deliberately design their latest flagship flash to be incompatible with their recent trigger.
But I will test some more.
Thanks.
Dan Vincent
Leading Member
The HVL-F45M allows the use of its LED light as a focus assist on mirrorless bodies. Presumably the Godox trigger is emulating this functionality.
This feature is only available on certain bodies (a9, a7Rii, a7RIII). The a6500 hasn't had a firmware update to enable support for it yet.
aaron fisher
Well-known member
So I have never messed with TTL before and recieved my x-pro today and figured I would try it out. I cannot get it to work at all. Im using AD200, a7rii, rokinon 14mm and x-pro trigger. Manual works fine but when I switch to TTL the flash always fires slightly before the shutter giving a very underexposed photo. I tried all flash modes, all different apertures 2.8-11 Anyone know what im doing wrong?
vett93
Veteran Member
I think your Rokinon 14mm might be the issue. AD200 cannot cover that wide of an area. Try a 50mm or longer lens.
Jonathan Brady
Veteran Member
Mine just arrived yesterday and are still sitting in the box. I have a shoot on Saturday I was planning to use them during, but now I'm wondering if I even bother...
aaron fisher
Well-known member
I will try another lens but I dont think thats the issue. I did try and dial in some flash compensation after my first post. If crank it up to +3.0 in ttl I get a good exposure. However when I'm in ttl there is a noticeable delay with the shutter the flash fires first and then the shutter, its only a fraction of a second but I can hear the difference and why im getting reduced flash power. If I switch over to manual on the flash the shutter and flash are much more in sync.
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My 200 comes next week, but if you are seeing/hearing a flash out of sync., that is really out of sync. It really sounds like a pre- flash. I'm assuming that you have symplified things and are using a purely mechanical shutter. Out of sync should give you uneven exposure where only part of the sensor is exposed. If ttl works properly with a different flash, then the problem is with the flash settings, or is a defective flash, but if both flashes fail, this is a problem with camera settings, or a defect.
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Jeff2013
Senior Member
Make certain that "Red Eye Reduction" is turned-off in the camera. You might also try turning EFCS off, if its is on.
Stflbn
Senior Member
Interesting that the Flashpoint version is out before hte Godox one for Sony.
Snapsh0t
Senior Member
What you're seeing is just the pre-flash; the exposing flash isn't firing. I have a list of (now 7) threads from the forums here with the same problem with different camera & flash combinations. My best guess is that it's a mis-alignment of those tiny contacts at the front of the MIA but how to prove it......
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Snapsh0t
Senior Member
It's been available from Amazon UK for a little while but only with shipping from China. I waited until there was UK stock, fulfilled by Amazon, and I should receive mine today.
Maybe someone here can help clear this up for me: I'm going Godox all the way, and will get the Xpro Olympus as soon as it becomes available plus three AD600 flashes.
Will the TCM function work with manual AD600's or do I need the TTL version? The way I understand it the camera does the metering instead of the (pre)flash.
I'm hoping to get the benefits of faster adjustments without spending $$$ for the TTL AD600's.
Will the TCM function work with manual AD600's or do I need the TTL version? The way I understand it the camera does the metering instead of the (pre)flash.
I'm hoping to get the benefits of faster adjustments without spending $$$ for the TTL AD600's.
kli
Senior Member
You need the TTL version to use TTL-to-Manual conversion. Without TTL mode, there's nothing to convert from to Manual.
You have a flaw in your understanding: If there's no preflash, there's nothing to meter. The camera and flash must communicate with each other to perform TTL. The camera tells the flash to send out the "preflash" to meter it, and then adjusts the flash's power output based on the reading. With a manual-only flash, none of this communication occurs because the flash doesn't "speak" it.
If you get an AD600M (manual-only), you can only use it in M mode, so TCM doesn't apply.
Yeah, well, everyone wants all the cool toys without spending $$$, but that's generally not how things work.
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a bloody flash beginner...that's what I amYou need the TTL version to use TTL-to-Manual conversion. Without TTL mode, there's nothing to convert from to Manual.
You have a flaw in your understanding: If there's no preflash, there's nothing to meter. The camera and flash must communicate with each other to perform TTL. The camera tells the flash to send out the "preflash" to meter it, and then adjusts the flash's power output based on the reading. With a manual-only flash, none of this communication occurs because the flash doesn't "speak" it.
If you get an AD600M (manual-only), you can only use it in M mode, so TCM doesn't apply.
Yeah, well, everyone wants all the cool toys without spending $$$, but that's generally not how things work.
OK, the flaw in my thinking even goes so far to think that one TTL flash could meter the scene, and the other two flashes can be manual for TCM? No?
kli
Senior Member
I have a TT685 (TTL) and two TT600 (manual) flashes. If I use TCM, the TT685's TTL setting is converted to M, and the TT600's M settings stay the same. So, yes, that's how it works.
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