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X-T2 OR X-T20
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Rmcp20
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Having used the X-T20 for 4 months now, i can tell you it is a very capable camera. So is the X-T2 of course.
X-T2 will surely fit better in the hand, and as everyone mentioned has a better EVF.
While the handling you can easily fix for USD20 with a grip/plate without adding any significant weight into it, the EVF might be important if you wear glasses.
As for AF-C, the X-T2 has the new algorithm which is said to be faster with smaller objects (the tests i saw with people / horses / cars did not show significant improvements).
I did shoot a horse show jumping competition with the X-T20 and the kit 50-230, which isn't by any means a fast focusing lens, and i was able to get good sharp photos. I do not shoot 10 bursts to choose the best photo, i shoot 1 or 2 of the split second i want (because i trust the camera to do its job). I never saw a hunter shooting at birds with an AK-42 if you know what i mean.
Also tried this combo at a Catherdam series race, and was very happy. Only downside was the slow light capabilities of the lens, but that is another question.
Would the X-T2 be better? Maybe if i had the 50-140 or the 100-400 i would see a difference. In B&H for example the XT20+18-55 is 1200. If you buy a 50-230, you reach the price of the X-T2 body only.
Dont use the touch screen at all, and dont either believe that someone is able to change a focus point on the XT-2 joystick faster then i focus and recompose. If the subject is moving i use wide area tracking and the both cameras do an excellent job.
So it all comes down to WR and EVF, and the price you pay for that. Size depends more on the lens than body to be honest,
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Pritzl
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Generally good summary but the X-T2's handling advantage is not simply a matter of fit/feel. No accessories can add an ISO dial or an AF joystick. The extra control points do significantly affect the shooting experience. The AF joystick in particular is very important to me. Which brings me back to my suggestion that the OP handle both and take pictures to decide if the steep premium for pretty much the same performance is worthwhile for their circumstances/preferences.
centerpunch
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I use fill flash LOTS of the time when shooting outdoors.
What flash would you X-T2 fans recommend for someone who will keep it nearly permanently mounted?
What flash would you X-T2 fans recommend for someone who will keep it nearly permanently mounted?
MarcosV
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I would go big. Get a Godox v860ii-f or tt685f. Not only do these flashes have bigger guid numbers, they also have bigger flash heads so that you will have an easier time of mounting light modifiers.
If your subjects or the wall you plan to bounce light off of are closser, i would go for the Godox TT350f for the smaller size.
In other words: buy both.
I have an X-E2 which was just right for me and I waited for what seemed like forever for the X-E3 to arrive. But, when it did, I found it to be a disappointment to me but, I was still lusting after those 24MPs. I decided to reconsider my options. It was mid October and my local camera retailer was about to have their annual trade-in sale at the beginning of the year. You trade in something from the junk pile in one of the categories they list, working or not, and you get additional discounts. I took my X-E2 with my Rokinon 21mm f1.4, Zeiss Touit 1.8/32, and a couple of memory cards up to the store a week or so before the sale to test my options. I ruled out the X-Pro2 because to me, it was an oversized X100F with interchangeable lenses and larger than I wanted.
That left me with the X-T2 and the X-T20. One was larger than I wanted and the other was smaller than I wanted but that was what I was down to if I wanted the new 24mp sensor and processor. A few caveats are due here. First, These are my opinions and totally subjective, I mostly shoot in manual focus with peaking and magnification, I am quite happy with the AF performance on my X-E2 and use the single mid-sized center AF point all the time, so all of the AF enhancements are of little value to me, and lastly, I don't shoot video. So here is my two cent regarding the two.
My final regret is that I spent hundreds of dollars extra for a camera that has more stuff then I will ever want or use. I think the amazing EVF and the thought I had that any updates Fuji comes out with will go to the X-T2 first and maybe never to the X-T20 are the two reasons I walked out of the store with the X-T2 instead of the X-T20. I'm taking the X-T2 on a two-week vacation next month and if I'm still uncomfortable with the X-T2 when I get back, I sell it, at a loss for sure, but it won't be the first camera I bought, didn't like that much and sold.
That left me with the X-T2 and the X-T20. One was larger than I wanted and the other was smaller than I wanted but that was what I was down to if I wanted the new 24mp sensor and processor. A few caveats are due here. First, These are my opinions and totally subjective, I mostly shoot in manual focus with peaking and magnification, I am quite happy with the AF performance on my X-E2 and use the single mid-sized center AF point all the time, so all of the AF enhancements are of little value to me, and lastly, I don't shoot video. So here is my two cent regarding the two.
- The first thing I did is compare the EVFs. The size and magnification of X-T2 EVF is amazing. The X-T20 or my X-E2 don't come close but, I also felt that the EVF in my X-E2 was slightly larger and better than the X-T20.
- Then I put in and formatted one of my memory cards into each camera and took some test shot with each lens on each camera using the identical settings on both. You are correct, they share the same sensor, same processor, mostly the same firmware, and my results confirmed that you are correct; with the same lens there was no real difference between the images taken with either camera.
- The X-T2 looks and feels better built than the X-T20, which is a virtual clone of the X-T10 that I looked at before I bought my X-E2. The X-T2 is also quite a bit heavier than the X-T20; this is one of my regrets because I'm as old as dirt and the lighter the camera, the better for me, especially if I'm carrying it around all day.
- The X-T2 has the advantage of having dedicated dials and sub-dials for ISO, drive mode, and metering in addition to the aperture ring, shutter speed, and exposure compensation dial, like all of the X-Series cameras have. Plus, the X-T2 gives you a fourth metering mode, the shutter speed and ISO dials lock or unlock with the press of a button, and the exposure compensation dial doesn't hang over the back of the body like my X-E2 and the X-T20 have. I am constantly accidentally moving the exposure compensation dial on my X-E2 and would expect the same from the X-T20. I have not had this problem with the X-T2; a plus. With all of these dials, the Q-Menu or the new MyMenu, all of the Fn buttons are pretty redundant and almost necessary,once you have the X-T2 set up the way you want.
- Speaking of buttons, the buttons on my X-E2 are larger than buttons on either the X-T2 or X-T20, which seemed to be about the same size as the ones that came on the X100T I sold last year. Now that I have had the X-T2 for a while, I find that the buttons are often difficult to press because they are more recessed, probably because of the weather sealing and for some reason I keep pressing the Display/Back button label instead of the actual button. I also find that I sometimes press one of the arrow keys instead of the Menu button because the D-Pad is smaller than the one on my X-E2. Even those the X-t2 is smaller and the buttons are closer together, I found them easier to press and more user friendly when I was testing in the store. The buttons are another bother for me with the X-T2.
- Besides what you mentioned, the X-T2 comes with a host of advantages that may or may not be of value to you unless you are a working professional or bought the X-T2 for both stills and video. The list of ergonomic extras include dual card slots, an almost must have for wedding photographers; combined with the new AF functionality, the ability to comfortably work with any of Fuji's x-mount lenses, including the larger zooms and primes, now making the X-T2 an excellent choice for sports and wildlife shooters; Weather resistant body, which after years of real world experience, I consider more marketing hype then necessity unless you frequently operate in the extreme regions of the world and use the matching WR lenses; better 4k video, f-log, and with the battery grip, 30 minutes of video; the battery grip also adds boost mode that gives you a headset jack, in body charging for all three batteries, and 11fps in boost mode; USB 3.0 and a proper sided mic jack; three way tilt-screen and the little joystick, which are two things I really like; and tethering for studio and landscape photographers. I'm retired, shoot for my own pleasure, and probably never will use any of this stuff except maybe the dual card slots just because they are there and I have enough fast cards to use them so the fact that I spent twice as much for the X-T20 than I would have for the X-T20 is another big regret.
- The X-T20 gets you a touchscreen but since I have turned off the touchscreen on every camera I've owned that had one; this was not a consideration for me.
My final regret is that I spent hundreds of dollars extra for a camera that has more stuff then I will ever want or use. I think the amazing EVF and the thought I had that any updates Fuji comes out with will go to the X-T2 first and maybe never to the X-T20 are the two reasons I walked out of the store with the X-T2 instead of the X-T20. I'm taking the X-T2 on a two-week vacation next month and if I'm still uncomfortable with the X-T2 when I get back, I sell it, at a loss for sure, but it won't be the first camera I bought, didn't like that much and sold.
Rmcp20
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Always the best piece of advice....fully agree.
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To be fair I don't think anyone has said or implied that the video is the same (in fact there's an earlier post pointing out the differences there). For stills they are the same. But if the OP has video as a high priority I doubt the XT20 would be on their list anyway.
Rail2trail
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Hello,
i found this video by Andy Mumford to be very comprehensive. Perhaps it may be of some use in your decision making process.
i found this video by Andy Mumford to be very comprehensive. Perhaps it may be of some use in your decision making process.
baobob
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Which is excatly what I wrote ...
Vic Chapman
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Why? The X-T20 shoots pretty good 4k video albeit at a low recording limit of 10 minutes. Yes it's line skipping and a hair softer then the X-T2 but it's no slouch and uses the full sensor in terms of field of view.
It has a mic jack too so one can record audio inside as well an powered mic is adviseable given that the pre-amps inside ain't that great. But then in which camera at a similar price point are they truly useable?
Sure a Panasonic G80 would be better for video at this price-point. Dual IS from Panasonic is very handy to have. But that camera's 16mp m43 sensor can't compete in regards to stills.
It isn't really better if you want both.
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If video is a priority for you and you’re seriously looking at both of these cameras wondering which to buy, you wouldn’t be looking for long - the XT2 is very obviously the best choice.
DogShot
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I bought the X-T20 almost a year ago over the X-T2 because I prefer to spend the money on the lenses, especially considering that the mirrorless Fuji bodies are still developing at a fast rate. I figured that given how much of an improvement this generation is over the previous, the next generation of bodies will probably be substantially better than this generation, and that I would wait for the technology to level off a bit before buying Fuji's pro-level bodies. No complaints at all with the X-T20.
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