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Well I got my D1, but not the 17 - 35 lens! Anyone gotten theres yet?

Bill
 
Ernest Alliott said:
We should get together. I have the 17-35 lens but am still waiting for my
D1. I got the lens from Cathay Photo in Singapore.

Regards,
Ernest.
Bill Harris said:
Well I got my D1, but not the 17 - 35 lens! Anyone gotten theres yet?

Bill
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For those who want to take delivery of the D1 and the 17 - 35 lens at once, go to
Norman's Camera web-site. They claim those who purchase the D1 from them
will have the option to include the lens.

The Nikkor 17 - 35 lens is a gem ... at least for the F5 and F4 35mm format.

I can't comprehend why D1 fans would want it. The D1 has a 1.5 times factor

of the 35mm format , therefore, if you do the math, your $$$ will buy a 25.5 - 52.5
zoom lens ... what of waste!!! Keep in mind that Nikkor lenses are designed for
the 35mm format; and at this point and time, not for the D1.

Louis
Louis

of the 35mm
 
Hi Peter,

It is a bit awkward but could you please tell me what is the price for this lens?? I got a quote from CWO and they told me it is $1550. Is it the right price or they make some mistakes on the price? Isn't the 20-35mm AF is selling for that price range in B&H, and Adorama??

If CWO give me the right number, wow!! this is more than dirty cheap for the lens.

Does anyone post any simple from this lens yet??

Thanks,

Danny
 
Louis de la Torre said:
Peter Linden said:
Bill Harris said:
Well I got my D1, but not the 17 - 35 lens! Anyone gotten theres yet?

Bill
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I received my 17-35 lens (but no D1 yet) on 13 November from Keeble and
Shuchet in Palo Alto. Very impressive optic!
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Bill,

Do they have many in stock or is there a waiting list.

Louis ... San Francisco
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CWO got a big waiting list for the lens (41 as of today!) and 71 for the D1 when I called them around 6:00pm EST

B&H has a waiting list of 4-6weeks for D1
Hope it helps,

Danny
 
Danny,

Nikon just dropped the price on the 20-35mm AF lens after the 17-35 was introduced. I think you can find them (the 20-35mm lens) considerably cheaper than they originally sold for.

Good luck,

....ed andersen
Danny said:
Hi Peter,

It is a bit awkward but could you please tell me what is the price for
this lens?? I got a quote from CWO and they told me it is $1550. Is it
the right price or they make some mistakes on the price? Isn't the
20-35mm AF is selling for that price range in B&H, and Adorama??

If CWO give me the right number, wow!! this is more than dirty cheap for
the lens.

Does anyone post any simple from this lens yet??

Thanks,

Danny
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I can't comprehend why D1 fans wouldn't want it. The D1 has a 1.5 times factor of the 35mm format, therefore, it is THE lens to buy if you need a wide angle zoom lens.... plus you have already spent $5k-7k on the camera body, what's another couple grand...
Louis de la Torre said:
I can't comprehend why D1 fans would want it. The D1 has a 1.5 times factor
of the 35mm format , therefore, if you do the math, your $$$ will buy a
25.5 - 52.5
zoom lens ... what of waste!!! Keep in mind that Nikkor lenses are
designed for
the 35mm format; and at this point and time, not for the D1.

Louis
Louis

of the 35mm
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Louis de la Torre said:
Ernest Alliott said:
We should get together. I have the 17-35 lens but am still waiting for my
D1. I got the lens from Cathay Photo in Singapore.

Regards,
Ernest.
Bill Harris said:
Well I got my D1, but not the 17 - 35 lens! Anyone gotten theres yet?

Bill
Click to expand...
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For those who want to take delivery of the D1 and the 17 - 35 lens at
once, go to
Norman's Camera web-site. They claim those who purchase the D1 from them
will have the option to include the lens.

The Nikkor 17 - 35 lens is a gem ... at least for the F5 and F4 35mm format.

I can't comprehend why D1 fans would want it. The D1 has a 1.5 times factor
of the 35mm format , therefore, if you do the math, your $$$ will buy a
25.5 - 52.5
zoom lens ... what of waste!!! Keep in mind that Nikkor lenses are
designed for
the 35mm format; and at this point and time, not for the D1.

Louis
Louis

of the 35mm
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Since almost all lenses work best in the central area, and since the D1’s CCD is smaller than 35mm, I would assume that a lens optimized for edge to edge performance for 35mm format would work even better for the D1’s smaller format, since it would be utilizing only the central area and not the edges. Am I missing something? I guess that if the design cinstraint was only for the smaller area of the CCD then the lens could be optimised even more and give better results for the D1 at the expense of 35mm.

Cheers!

Furrukh
 
I have been using a Sigma 17mm - 35mm 2.8 -4 zoom lens on my D1 for about a month now (while waiting for delivery of the Nikon model). The lens has given me outstanding results in this focal length area. I am so satisfied with the quality of the lens that I am considering canceling my order for the Nikon lens. The Sigma costs approximately $450.00 and provides the same focal length and speed at 17mm as the Nikon. Remember these lens provide a true focal length of 24mm - 52mm on the D1. Edge to edge sharpness is not as important as on a 35mm body...
Keat Lim said:
Louis de la Torre said:
I can't comprehend why D1 fans would want it. The D1 has a 1.5 times factor
of the 35mm format , therefore, if you do the math, your $$$ will buy a
25.5 - 52.5
zoom lens ... what of waste!!! Keep in mind that Nikkor lenses are
designed for
the 35mm format; and at this point and time, not for the D1.

Louis
Louis

of the 35mm
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Hi Furrukh,

As you know, the 17-35mm lens has picture angle of 104-62 degree. it will show the affect of mechanical vignetting in the edges of the photos if you use zoom out to 17mm. So I am wondering what type of filters do you use for your 17-35mm/D1 combo? Do you still need to use filters design for ultra-wide angle lens or because of the "central area" theory, we don't really need to use any special filter and the lens won't show any vignetting problem?

I am now planning to get myself a D1/17-25mm Combo, but I am concerning about the vignetting problem. So, for the few lucky owners, what filters do you use for your 17-35mm lens??

Best Regards,

Danny
Member said:
Since almost all lenses work best in the central area, and since the
D1’s CCD is smaller than 35mm, I would assume that a lens optimized
for edge to edge performance for 35mm format would work even better for
the D1’s smaller format, since it would be utilizing only the
central area and not the edges. Am I missing something? I guess that if
the design cinstraint was only for the smaller area of the CCD then the
lens could be optimised even more and give better results for the D1 at
the expense of 35mm.

Cheers!

Furrukh
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Danny said:
As you know, the 17-35mm lens has picture angle of 104-62 degree. it will
show the affect of mechanical vignetting in the edges of the photos if
you use zoom out to 17mm. So I am wondering what type of filters do you
use for your 17-35mm/D1 combo? Do you still need to use filters design
for ultra-wide angle lens or because of the "central area" theory, we
don't really need to use any special filter and the lens won't show any
vignetting problem?

I am now planning to get myself a D1/17-25mm Combo, but I am concerning
about the vignetting problem. So, for the few lucky owners, what filters
do you use for your 17-35mm lens??

Best Regards,

Danny
Danny #13324 said:
Since almost all lenses work best in the central area, and since the
D1’s CCD is smaller than 35mm, I would assume that a lens optimized
for edge to edge performance for 35mm format would work even better for
the D1’s smaller format, since it would be utilizing only the
central area and not the edges. Am I missing something? I guess that if
the design cinstraint was only for the smaller area of the CCD then the
lens could be optimised even more and give better results for the D1 at
the expense of 35mm.

Cheers!

Furrukh
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I would think that D1’s CCD is small enough compared with the 35mm area that the mechanical vignetting problem will be eliminated or drastically reduced depending on how far into the central area the problem persists. Unfortunately I own neither a D1 nor the 17-35mm lens. Lucky owners will be able to answer this question better. Have fun with the equipment!

Cheers!

Furrukh
 
Furrukh said:
Danny said:
As you know, the 17-35mm lens has picture angle of 104-62 degree. it will
show the affect of mechanical vignetting in the edges of the photos if
you use zoom out to 17mm. So I am wondering what type of filters do you
use for your 17-35mm/D1 combo? Do you still need to use filters design
for ultra-wide angle lens or because of the "central area" theory, we
don't really need to use any special filter and the lens won't show any
vignetting problem?

I am now planning to get myself a D1/17-25mm Combo, but I am concerning
about the vignetting problem. So, for the few lucky owners, what filters
do you use for your 17-35mm lens??

Best Regards,

Danny
Member said:
Since almost all lenses work best in the central area, and since the
D1’s CCD is smaller than 35mm, I would assume that a lens optimized
for edge to edge performance for 35mm format would work even better for
the D1’s smaller format, since it would be utilizing only the
central area and not the edges. Am I missing something? I guess that if
the design cinstraint was only for the smaller area of the CCD then the
lens could be optimised even more and give better results for the D1 at
the expense of 35mm.

Cheers!

Furrukh
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I would think that D1’s CCD is small enough compared with the 35mm area
that the mechanical vignetting problem will be eliminated or drastically
reduced depending on how far into the central area the problem persists.
Unfortunately I own neither a D1 nor the 17-35mm lens. Lucky owners will
be able to answer this question better. Have fun with the equipment!

Cheers!

Furrukh
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I'm sure you're right. I've used a Sigma 14mm rectilinear on a DCS 315 (to achieve an equivalent 35mm focal length!) When you do this, you need to mount a hot mirror somewhere in the image path. I've used a 72mm hot mirror screwed into the hole in the Sigma lens cap. The vignetting through the 315's viewfinder is terrible, of course, but doesn't extend into the actual image area at the center at all.

So, generally speaking, you can block the peripheral rays of one of these extreme wideangles without vignetting into a smaller digital frame. And the front objective of the 17-35zoom is a LOT smaller than the front of the Sigma 14mm, which is more of a fisheye deisgn with rectlilinear correction, so you shouldn't have any problem at all.

...Dan
 
Hi Danny,

On the recommendation of my dealer I bought a standard Schneider B+W UV-Haze filter for my 17-35 lens.He was out of stock of the comparable Nikon filter. As I do not yet have my D1 I have not been able to check for vignetting but the dealer checked the lens and filter on an F5 body and stated categorically that there was no mechanical vignetting.

Hope this is of help.
Regards.
Ernest.
Danny said:
As you know, the 17-35mm lens has picture angle of 104-62 degree. it will
show the affect of mechanical vignetting in the edges of the photos if
you use zoom out to 17mm. So I am wondering what type of filters do you
use for your 17-35mm/D1 combo? Do you still need to use filters design
for ultra-wide angle lens or because of the "central area" theory, we
don't really need to use any special filter and the lens won't show any
vignetting problem?

I am now planning to get myself a D1/17-25mm Combo, but I am concerning
about the vignetting problem. So, for the few lucky owners, what filters
do you use for your 17-35mm lens??

Best Regards,

Danny
Danny #13324 said:
Since almost all lenses work best in the central area, and since the
D1’s CCD is smaller than 35mm, I would assume that a lens optimized
for edge to edge performance for 35mm format would work even better for
the D1’s smaller format, since it would be utilizing only the
central area and not the edges. Am I missing something? I guess that if
the design cinstraint was only for the smaller area of the CCD then the
lens could be optimised even more and give better results for the D1 at
the expense of 35mm.

Cheers!

Furrukh
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Hi Ernes, Furrukh, and Dan:

Thanks for your insights. I will try the B+W regular 77mm filter first.

Best,

Danny
 
Bill Harris said:
Well I got my D1, but not the 17 - 35 lens! Anyone gotten theres yet?

Bill
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Why buy the 17-35 mm lens? The 24-120mm lens (D1 = 36-180mm) cost only 25% of a 17-35 mm and has a greater range (well not in wide angle).

Regards
Leif M. Svendsen
 
Leif M. Svendsen said:
Bill Harris said:
Well I got my D1, but not the 17 - 35 lens! Anyone gotten theres yet?

Bill
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Why buy the 17-35 mm lens? The 24-120mm lens (D1 = 36-180mm) cost only
25% of a 17-35 mm and has a greater range (well not in wide angle).

Regards
Leif M. Svendsen
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Come now. Let's be sensible about this.

The 24-120 is one of the lowest quality lenses to bear the Nikon name. It is reported to have distinctly mediocre resolution and contrast, even at the center of the image and at "sweet spot" f-stops, like f/8. Its maximum aperture drops to f/4 at 35mm and to f/5 at 85mm. It uses the "standard" AF mechanism.

The 17-35 is Nikon's most up to date and advanced wide angle zoom formula, with constant f/2.8 aperture over its entire range. The few people who have been able to test one report it is razor sharp with very high contrast. It uses Nikon's high-speed AF-S mechanism, which permits mixed manual and AF control without flipping switches.

I'm not sure there's any basis for comparison between these lenses.They address completely different markets with completely different standards of quality and performance.

...Dan
 
Dan Massey said:
Leif M. Svendsen said:
Bill Harris said:
Well I got my D1, but not the 17 - 35 lens! Anyone gotten theres yet?

Bill
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Why buy the 17-35 mm lens? The 24-120mm lens (D1 = 36-180mm) cost only
25% of a 17-35 mm and has a greater range (well not in wide angle).

Regards
Leif M. Svendsen
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Come now. Let's be sensible about this.

The 24-120 is one of the lowest quality lenses to bear the Nikon name. It
is reported to have distinctly mediocre resolution and contrast, even at
the center of the image and at "sweet spot" f-stops, like f/8. Its
maximum aperture drops to f/4 at 35mm and to f/5 at 85mm. It uses the
"standard" AF mechanism.

The 17-35 is Nikon's most up to date and advanced wide angle zoom
formula, with constant f/2.8 aperture over its entire range. The few
people who have been able to test one report it is razor sharp with very
high contrast. It uses Nikon's high-speed AF-S mechanism, which permits
mixed manual and AF control without flipping switches.

I'm not sure there's any basis for comparison between these lenses.They
address completely different markets with completely different standards
of quality and performance.

...Dan
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You got me there... I'm an old (47!) F2 user, and I have equipment bought 23 year ago (still superb lenses)... I did not know Nikon made 'poor' lenses nowadays.
Then I will cancel the 24-120mm lens and go for the 17-35mm lens.
Thanks.

Regards
Leif
 
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