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and right now i'm on "yes" to the 300D.

when it was announced i thought it was a great buy esp. w/the decent wide zoom lens.

then, i read up some more, and my friend bought a 10D, and i decided i hated the firmware crippling on the 300D. i just felt like if i got a 300D, i would end up just lusting after a 10D. so i decided on 10D or nothing, and since i can't afford a 10D and lenses (well, i can afford it, but i don't want to spend $2k+ on a setup) it was back to nothing - was going to wait out another several months to a year.

then, i realized time is money, memories lost are priceless, and i should probably go ahead and take the plunge. was looking at 10D again, still didn't like 300D so much but then when i factored in the very usable wide lens for $100 i decided it was the way to go... in the end, i will end up taking pretty much the same quality pics as the 10D, and i can have it now instead of later. i will probably want a new body within 2 years anyway so why waste a lot of money now. i also researched the 300D limitations more and realized they really weren't as bad as i thought.

in the end it's really the included 18-55 lens that is the deal maker for me. wideangle is an absolute must for me (for indoor shots) and there is no way i could afford the 16-35L, even the 20-35 is a few hundred dollars. for $1k, i get a very usable package right now that takes pics that are fundamentally as good as the 10D, and the limitations of the 18-55 EF-S i can overcome whenever i choose to. and as a big plus, a 300D/EF-S setup will weigh much less than a comparable 10D setup - a big factor for me as i tired very quickly holding my friends' 1D or Nikon D1x. the 10D is lighter than those heavyweights, but the 300D is postively tossable compared to all of them.

so, i am looking to get a 300D now. just trying to figure out if i can get it in time for my vacation on the 25th....

cheers,
marc
 
i agree Krispy Kreme !.

i would really like a 10d or higher.. but the $$$$ !. you know.. it IS A FIRST CAMERA OF ITS KIND. so don't be surprised if a newer and better rebel comes out next fall.. and all of us who buy it now will be crying. The buyers of the camera in the next few months are 'early adopters'. We will be paying canon to research and develop the NEXT generation of rebel at a more reasonable price.
BUT

life is short and many of us WANT IT NOW.. so if you afford it OK. I am also thinking of waiting .... but then again .. there will always be something better around the corner.. and look at all the missed pics while you wait.
tasty donuts said:
and right now i'm on "yes" to the 300D.

when it was announced i thought it was a great buy esp. w/the
decent wide zoom lens.

then, i read up some more, and my friend bought a 10D, and i
decided i hated the firmware crippling on the 300D. i just felt
like if i got a 300D, i would end up just lusting after a 10D. so i
decided on 10D or nothing, and since i can't afford a 10D and
lenses (well, i can afford it, but i don't want to spend $2k+ on
a setup) it was back to nothing - was going to wait out another
several months to a year.

then, i realized time is money, memories lost are priceless, and i
should probably go ahead and take the plunge. was looking at 10D
again, still didn't like 300D so much but then when i factored in
the very usable wide lens for $100 i decided it was the way to
go... in the end, i will end up taking pretty much the same quality
pics as the 10D, and i can have it now instead of later. i will
probably want a new body within 2 years anyway so why waste a lot
of money now. i also researched the 300D limitations more and
realized they really weren't as bad as i thought.

in the end it's really the included 18-55 lens that is the deal
maker for me. wideangle is an absolute must for me (for indoor
shots) and there is no way i could afford the 16-35L, even the
20-35 is a few hundred dollars. for $1k, i get a very usable
package right now that takes pics that are fundamentally as good as
the 10D, and the limitations of the 18-55 EF-S i can overcome
whenever i choose to. and as a big plus, a 300D/EF-S setup will
weigh much less than a comparable 10D setup - a big factor for me
as i tired very quickly holding my friends' 1D or Nikon D1x. the
10D is lighter than those heavyweights, but the 300D is postively
tossable compared to all of them.

so, i am looking to get a 300D now. just trying to figure out if i
can get it in time for my vacation on the 25th....

cheers,
marc
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stephen rudolph said:
i agree Krispy Kreme !.
i would really like a 10d or higher.. but the $$$$ !. you know.. it
IS A FIRST CAMERA OF ITS KIND. so don't be surprised if a newer and
better rebel comes out next fall.. and all of us who buy it now
will be crying. The buyers of the camera in the next few months are
'early adopters'. We will be paying canon to research and develop
the NEXT generation of rebel at a more reasonable price.
BUT
life is short and many of us WANT IT NOW.. so if you afford it OK.
I am also thinking of waiting .... but then again .. there will
always be something better around the corner.. and look at all the
missed pics while you wait.
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But one does not need a 300D to take pictures though. Any of the other digital cameras will take pictures too :)
Steve110587 said:
tasty donuts said:
and right now i'm on "yes" to the 300D.

when it was announced i thought it was a great buy esp. w/the
decent wide zoom lens.

then, i read up some more, and my friend bought a 10D, and i
decided i hated the firmware crippling on the 300D. i just felt
like if i got a 300D, i would end up just lusting after a 10D. so i
decided on 10D or nothing, and since i can't afford a 10D and
lenses (well, i can afford it, but i don't want to spend $2k+ on
a setup) it was back to nothing - was going to wait out another
several months to a year.

then, i realized time is money, memories lost are priceless, and i
should probably go ahead and take the plunge. was looking at 10D
again, still didn't like 300D so much but then when i factored in
the very usable wide lens for $100 i decided it was the way to
go... in the end, i will end up taking pretty much the same quality
pics as the 10D, and i can have it now instead of later. i will
probably want a new body within 2 years anyway so why waste a lot
of money now. i also researched the 300D limitations more and
realized they really weren't as bad as i thought.

in the end it's really the included 18-55 lens that is the deal
maker for me. wideangle is an absolute must for me (for indoor
shots) and there is no way i could afford the 16-35L, even the
20-35 is a few hundred dollars. for $1k, i get a very usable
package right now that takes pics that are fundamentally as good as
the 10D, and the limitations of the 18-55 EF-S i can overcome
whenever i choose to. and as a big plus, a 300D/EF-S setup will
weigh much less than a comparable 10D setup - a big factor for me
as i tired very quickly holding my friends' 1D or Nikon D1x. the
10D is lighter than those heavyweights, but the 300D is postively
tossable compared to all of them.

so, i am looking to get a 300D now. just trying to figure out if i
can get it in time for my vacation on the 25th....

cheers,
marc
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Just because another newer camera comes out doesn't make your camera worthless. Nothing to cry about. Owners of D30s and D60s aren't crying. They're still taking wonderful pictures.

I was set on the 10D and then when 300D was announced I waited to see. I'm still torn because of the price but in the end I went to a local Wolf camera and got to hold a 10D. Since I know the 300D uses roughly the same body as a Rebel Ti I asked to hold that one too. For some the weight of the 10D is bad. I personally like it much better. And the magnesium alloy feels nice in my hand. But this is only my personal feeling.

I suggest you go to a store that has both the 10D and the Rebel Ti and check it out. I won't have the varied focal range I would with the 300D since I can't buy as many lenses at the outset, but it will be fun collecting more glass as I go.

Good luck with your decision. As it is now, I've decided on the 10D and am in the processes of E-baying Cisco routers and whatnot from my house. LoL. :)
stephen rudolph said:
tasty donuts said:
and right now i'm on "yes" to the 300D.

when it was announced i thought it was a great buy esp. w/the
decent wide zoom lens.

then, i read up some more, and my friend bought a 10D, and i
decided i hated the firmware crippling on the 300D. i just felt
like if i got a 300D, i would end up just lusting after a 10D. so i
decided on 10D or nothing, and since i can't afford a 10D and
lenses (well, i can afford it, but i don't want to spend $2k+ on
a setup) it was back to nothing - was going to wait out another
several months to a year.

then, i realized time is money, memories lost are priceless, and i
should probably go ahead and take the plunge. was looking at 10D
again, still didn't like 300D so much but then when i factored in
the very usable wide lens for $100 i decided it was the way to
go... in the end, i will end up taking pretty much the same quality
pics as the 10D, and i can have it now instead of later. i will
probably want a new body within 2 years anyway so why waste a lot
of money now. i also researched the 300D limitations more and
realized they really weren't as bad as i thought.

in the end it's really the included 18-55 lens that is the deal
maker for me. wideangle is an absolute must for me (for indoor
shots) and there is no way i could afford the 16-35L, even the
20-35 is a few hundred dollars. for $1k, i get a very usable
package right now that takes pics that are fundamentally as good as
the 10D, and the limitations of the 18-55 EF-S i can overcome
whenever i choose to. and as a big plus, a 300D/EF-S setup will
weigh much less than a comparable 10D setup - a big factor for me
as i tired very quickly holding my friends' 1D or Nikon D1x. the
10D is lighter than those heavyweights, but the 300D is postively
tossable compared to all of them.

so, i am looking to get a 300D now. just trying to figure out if i
can get it in time for my vacation on the 25th....

cheers,
marc
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used/refurb from B&H. For the few $$$ more the burst mode is more desired than a non-FTM cheapie lens.

that said, if before 14-days the 10d has problems i'll likely return and consider a digital rebel for convenience.
 
break_even said:
Consider a 10D instead?
Consider a proconsumer instead?
Consider another dSLR?
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If I had read the review before and would know about the problems for me with the difference in default sharping of the 10D doing this not in all modes, I would have deciced to buy a 300D.

Now the 300D ist 1000,- Euros at eBay and the 10D sells only for 1300,- Euros, I don't want to switch. So I better learn how to hande the 10D :-)

The 10D has a much more robust body, the 300D feels like a G3 which I liked very much, too. But the disandvate of this is its weight of course when climbing a mountain.

And the 300Ds flash seems to be more useful to me. Nice redesign.
 
I currently have a G2. My photos are mainly snapshots, but I've been wishing for a camera with more-accurate focusing, a decent manual-focus capability, and better low-light capability. I had been leaning toward getting a 300D - but after seeing both Phil's review and the one in Imaging Resource, I think the 300D's problems with white balance would bother me.

I used to have a G1, and was chronically frustrated by its white-balance problems. I do know how to set the white balance manually, but it's often impractical for me to do so - thus I want to get better results from the automatic white balance and the presets.

Right now, I'm planning to wait for updated reviews that include results from production-level cameras. Depending on how those results turn out, I might change my mind - but I think I'm likely to wait another year until a successor to the 300D comes out.
 
Michael Le said:
Just because another newer camera comes out doesn't make your
camera worthless. Nothing to cry about.
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absolutely right.
Michael Le said:
For some the weight of the 10D is bad. I personally like it much
better. And the magnesium alloy feels nice in my hand. But this is
only my personal feeling.
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i haven't held the 10D but i know exactly what you're talking about... i am big on the "feel" and solidity of a product and i know the 300D cannot match the 10D. i also agree weight can be a good thing, helps stabilize the camera etc., but for me the tradeoff (extra load when carrying your gear around) makes me lean towards the lighter 300D... as for the feel, i know i will still want a 10D even after i get a 300D, but the 10D is a luxury i'll have to do without for the time being.
 
Justme said:
But one does not need a 300D to take pictures though. Any of the
other digital cameras will take pictures too :)
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absolutely. :) tho i will say, i have felt limited at times by my S30, and looking at some of my more treasured pictures (of family members etc.) i definitely could have benefited from higher quality glass, an external flash, etc. for high-quality portrait work, there is no question in my mind that an SLR with proper lens (e.g. 50mm f/1.4) is absolutely critical. you just can't get the same results with most fixed-lens cameras.
 
just saw that people were able to get the 10D for under $1300 shipped, no tax from dell.com via phone order. at that price, it is very tempting, esp. now that i found out i can't use a 10% coupon at compusa on the 300D and i'd have to pay tax. given the uncertain ship date of the 300D as well i may just go for the 10D after all! of course i wont' get the handy 18-55 lens of the 300D kit but i guess a 28-105 EF II USM for around $200 is not so bad, i imagine image quality will be comparable or better than the EF-S lens.
 
Keep in mind that that 28-105mm lens translates to 45-168mm, which is not wide at all.

Don
tasty donuts said:
just saw that people were able to get the 10D for under $1300
shipped, no tax from dell.com via phone order. at that price, it is
very tempting, esp. now that i found out i can't use a 10% coupon
at compusa on the 300D and i'd have to pay tax. given the uncertain
ship date of the 300D as well i may just go for the 10D after all!
of course i wont' get the handy 18-55 lens of the 300D kit but i
guess a 28-105 EF II USM for around $200 is not so bad, i imagine
image quality will be comparable or better than the EF-S lens.
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he thinks the whole idea of dumbing down an SLR is "retarded" - having full control over everything is why you get a SLR in the first place. otherwise might as well get a point-and-shoot. he also thinks the plastic body is flimsy and won't hold up to any serious shooting, he feels a solidly built metal body (or at least a metal frame as in D30/D60) is a must for durability/reliability reasons.

he has a point i guess, altho i should note he has a fairly serious Nikon D1x setup himself so he has high standards...
 
outpost.com $1350, $13 overnight shipping.

VERY happy with my purchase, and not looking back at the 300D at all! this is a gorgeous piece of equipment, yes it costs much more but the "pride of ownership" factor is much higher methinks. plus, i am getting picky w/my lenses anyway so not sure the 300D Kit EF-S would have cut it.
 
the rebel film cameras are dumbed downed elans ...etc...

but they are REAL SLRs. my car is a dumbed down mercedes but it is still a car. Get it ?. of course the 10d is better but knocking the rebel digital is immature. why waste your post on it ?. maybe your donuts are tastely but everything else about your post LACKS taste.
 
Enjoy your camera and the 10D forum.
tasty donuts said:
outpost.com $1350, $13 overnight shipping.
VERY happy with my purchase, and not looking back at the 300D at
all! this is a gorgeous piece of equipment, yes it costs much more
but the "pride of ownership" factor is much higher methinks. plus,
i am getting picky w/my lenses anyway so not sure the 300D Kit EF-S
would have cut it.
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no need to get offended. note i put the more negative words in quotes.

my friends and i tend to talk rather crudely at times, and i probably should have tempered the quote a bit before taking it out of context. if you read my post more carefully (rather than just reacting to it), you'll see that while i appreciate my friend's point of view i don't necessarily endorse it. i'm not knocking the rebel; my friend is, but he has his reasons which i explained.

as for "wasting a post"... i was pointing out my friend's take on an aspect of the 300D vs. 10D buying decision. his point is perfectly valid and was relevant to my final decision to get a 10D; and from the looks of this thread it seems that many other people are having to make the same choices. so, i don't believe i was "wasting" a post. you point out the rebel is a "REAL SLR." sure, duh. it's a perfectly legitimate camera and will suit many people very well. my powershot S30 is a perfectly good camera that has serviced me very well, even my "immature" (according to you) friend thinks it's a good camera. that wasn't the point, but you obviously missed that. and what kind of car exactly do you own? i'm not aware of what a "dumbed down mercedes" is. either your car is a mercedes, or isn't. i think i understand the point you're trying to make but your analogy is completely irrelevant (if you had said lexus and toyota, perhaps it would make a little more sens).
stephen rudolph said:
the rebel film cameras are dumbed downed elans ...etc...
but they are REAL SLRs. my car is a dumbed down mercedes but it is
still a car. Get it ?. of course the 10d is better but knocking the
rebel digital is immature. why waste your post on it ?. maybe your
donuts are tastely but everything else about your post LACKS taste.
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